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Post by newt5996 on Aug 13, 2016 20:17:00 GMT
I've seen that these are very decisive releases amongst fans. I personally love them and wish they were made for television.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2016 11:18:17 GMT
Well, I know as a fact that at least some elements of the original Thin Ice script were changed due to the change of location on Audio. Also, the series would probably not have included Animal, but instead either Alixion, Illegal Alien or Night Thoughts.
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Post by mark687 on Aug 14, 2016 11:32:56 GMT
Well, I know as a fact that at least some elements of the original Thin Ice script were changed due to the change of location on Audio. Also, the series would probably not have included Animal, but instead either Alixion, Illegal Alien or Night Thoughts. Exactly my thinking as well.
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Post by project37 on Aug 14, 2016 12:06:12 GMT
I've seen that these are very decisive releases amongst fans. I personally love them and wish they were made for television. I definitely fell into the divisive camp because it defied expectations. A lot of those expectations were self-imposed by me as a fan with knowledge about that portion of DW history, but I wasn't alone in thinking that way and the BF promotion definitely played to those expectations. Basically, I was really irritated with how the promotional announcements for the casting suggested that the series would follow the outline for the season as discussed by the television creative team in the Survival DVD documentary - i.e., Ace would leave for Gallifrey and then the new companion would join the Doctor. It seemed like an exciting opportunity to refresh the Doctor-companion dynamic - perhaps even a "side step" from the main range continuity. Instead, the "twist" was that Ace was staying after all, making a lot of the teasing in Thin Ice ultimately pointless. That wasn't as appealing to me personally, as I felt I'd gotten enough of Ace in a trio dynamic on audio, first with Benny and then with Hex. The initial cat-fighting between the two held zero interest for me and was actually a bit off-putting. To make it worse, Raine then "left" during the season...only to immediately return in an incredibly contrived fashion. I'd voiced my annoyance at the time and the unofficial response from the BF team (i.e., casual conversation not a formal statement) was that the Survival DVD documentary was speculation, that the audio creative decisions were Andrew Cartmel's anyway, plus the idea of Ace living on Gallifrey to become a Time Lord was strange (never mind that that's what happened later in Dominion and Gallifrey). Mark Ayres had posted expressing interest in doing the music, but it sadly never came to pass. The stories themselves didn't really do anything for me. I *really* wanted to like them and gave them another chance after I'd adjusted my expectations, but these sadly fell flat for me. I agree that it would have been really bold and interesting to try Alixion and regenerate the Doctor. Have it be one of the alt-realities as established in Zagreus. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2016 12:11:07 GMT
It's an interesting question. From what I can remember, the original form of Animal was a lot closer to what eventually became Warlock for the New Adventures range than what eventually turned up here. Earth Aid may also have probably been put on the back burner due to production concerns about really shoddy set design. They're a bit too goofy for my tastes and considering how the show was edging more towards a darker, more adult feel, I think Crime of the Century might have ended up looking more like Edge of Darkness than an episode of Peel era The Avengers. As is, I think there would have been a lot of accusations about Who sliding back into its pantomimic dark age which it had just managed to escape a year prior. It was back to doing drama with nasty real world consequences and I don't think that shift to the status quo would have done it any favours. Even if a great deal of the hate would have just been hyperbole.
Stories popping up in DWM in the early nineties like The Good Soldier, The Grief, The Mark of Mandragora and Evening's Empire feel truer to the direction they were taking at the time. Hell, The Mark of Mandragora could easily have been the show's swansong with the TARDIS annihilated and the Doctor and Ace stranded on Earth at its conclusion.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2016 12:14:13 GMT
To be honest the Season 27 on TV would probably have been better because most of McCoy's era already depended on visuals especially in Season 25. After Season 27, we have the novel adaptions. I just hope they end up doing most of the Virgin NAs as Audios...
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Aug 15, 2016 12:29:06 GMT
To be honest the Season 27 on TV would probably have been better because most of McCoy's era already depended on visuals especially in Season 25. After Season 27, we have the novel adaptions. I just hope they end up doing most of the Virgin NAs as Audios... If not then i would like Titan Comics to attempt a couple |
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Aug 15, 2016 12:39:26 GMT
The biggest problem for me is that Raine really isn't given much to do. It was an exciting moment for something that was decades in the waiting and the stories, at least to me, underwhelmed on their biggest selling point.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2016 12:45:53 GMT
To be honest the Season 27 on TV would probably have been better because most of McCoy's era already depended on visuals especially in Season 25. After Season 27, we have the novel adaptions. I just hope they end up doing most of the Virgin NAs as Audios... If not then i would like Titan Comics to attempt a couple The visuals of Blood Heat, GodEngine or Parasite would be ideal with a really strong set of artists at the helm. The sheer scope of the Artefact, the TARDIS obliterated by a temporal fissure, Benny shot through the chest as her hand slams down on a nuclear trigger, Chris blowing up the Ice Warriors' base, the Doctor and Morka's discussion about wisdom and prideful youth, the Silurian bodies dumped into a hospital furnace (one of whom is still alive), the Martians' Faustian pact with the Daleks, there's a lot to mine there for particularly vivid imagery. |
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Aug 15, 2016 12:53:37 GMT
If not then i would like Titan Comics to attempt a couple The visuals of Blood Heat, GodEngine or Parasite would be ideal with a really strong set of artists at the helm. The sheer scope of the Artefact, the TARDIS obliterated by a temporal fissure, Benny shot through the chest as her hand slams down on a nuclear trigger, Chris blowing up the Ice Warriors' base, the Doctor and Morka's discussion about wisdom and prideful youth, the Silurian bodies dumped into a hospital furnace (one of whom is still alive), the Martians' Faustian pact with the Daleks, there's a lot to mine there for particularly vivid imagery. With Blood Heat, i think they should only attempt it if they are going to do the whole of the Alternate Universe arc. But with GodEngine and Parasite, i agree completely  What about say White Darkness, Falls the Shadow, Deceit and So Vile A Sin? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2016 13:00:03 GMT
The visuals of Blood Heat, GodEngine or Parasite would be ideal with a really strong set of artists at the helm. The sheer scope of the Artefact, the TARDIS obliterated by a temporal fissure, Benny shot through the chest as her hand slams down on a nuclear trigger, Chris blowing up the Ice Warriors' base, the Doctor and Morka's discussion about wisdom and prideful youth, the Silurian bodies dumped into a hospital furnace (one of whom is still alive), the Martians' Faustian pact with the Daleks, there's a lot to mine there for particularly vivid imagery. With Blood Heat, i think they should only attempt it if they are going to do the whole of the Alternate Universe arc. But with GodEngine and Parasite, i agree completely What about say White Darkness, Falls the Shadow, Deceit and So Vile A Sin?Ooh, yes. They all have pretty nice potential. The opening to White Darkness practically screams a splash page, Falls the Shadow's genuinely horrific imagery would put it on par with something like Watchmen or The Killing Joke, the effects of Pool's influence as seen on Deceit's cover could be chilling in a comic and So Vile a Sin has both the Doctor's assassination of the Empress with a fire extinguisher and his hearts attack at the funeral. They all have some pretty iconic imagery in them.  |
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Aug 15, 2016 13:16:25 GMT
Well guess i better email Titan Comics then lol
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