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Post by redsharkJason on Aug 18, 2016 5:00:55 GMT
And as I said elsewhere the same with the early Benny's.
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Yep. I don't know if it is a "rights" issue or a "policy" issue now... Cheers Tony The Destiny of the Doctor CDs bought from the Big Finish website originally did not include their matching story downloads, but NOW do. Perhaps after a certain amount of contractual time has past, this will also apply to the CD purchases of Luther Arkwright eventually including its equivalent story digital. The Big Finish Luther Arkwright news release does say that the download wouldn't be included with the CDs "at this time". If I was the talent that signed off on allowing Luther Arkwright to go digital, I would have been more motivated to do so knowing that I could make increased royalties for a protected time frame on its separate only bought downloads. |
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Post by gregm on Aug 18, 2016 6:23:08 GMT
It's nothing like Doctor Who and is a one off. It's great fun and very comic book in some ways. I held off for years, but when I got it was impressed. I can't see it leading to any other ranges It's a one-off but doesn't have to be - Bryan Talbot did a sequel to the original comic series which was called Heart of Empire. I'd be quite pleased if it was adapted too... But for those who haven't purchased this already, it may very well be a one-off forever, and it's a good'un. |
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Post by shutupbanks on Aug 18, 2016 7:37:04 GMT
I really enjoyed it: it's a totally different story to Doctor Who and to just about anything else I've heard via Big Finish with some big ideas and flourishes. Heaps of fun.
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Post by Ela on Aug 18, 2016 15:03:51 GMT
I also enjoyed it very much. Definitely worth the price they're asking for it.
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Post by escalus5 on Aug 19, 2016 13:30:59 GMT
It's nothing like Doctor Who and is a one off. It's great fun and very comic book in some ways. I held off for years, but when I got it was impressed. I can't see it leading to any other ranges It's a one-off but doesn't have to be - Bryan Talbot did a sequel to the original comic series which was called Heart of Empire. I'd be quite pleased if it was adapted too... But for those who haven't purchased this already, it may very well be a one-off forever, and it's a good'un. At the Regeneration Who convention back in March, Jason Haigh-Ellery said that he contacted Tennant about doing an Arkwright sequel just recently. Jason seems really keen to do it but it's a matter of getting Tennant when his schedule is free. |
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Post by mrperson on Aug 19, 2016 15:46:42 GMT
It's nothing like Doctor Who and is a one off. It's great fun and very comic book in some ways. I held off for years, but when I got it was impressed. I can't see it leading to any other ranges Ah thanks. I went and got it. (I should have checked it out more thoroughly; didn't know it was only a single (large) episode and for $5 download). |
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Post by muckypup on Aug 19, 2016 15:53:30 GMT
Yep. I don't know if it is a "rights" issue or a "policy" issue now... Cheers Tony The Destiny of the Doctor CDs bought from the Big Finish website originally did not include their matching story downloads, but NOW do. Perhaps after a certain amount of contractual time has past, this will also apply to the CD purchases of Luther Arkwright eventually including its equivalent story digital. The Big Finish Luther Arkwright news release does say that the download wouldn't be included with the CDs "at this time". If I was the talent that signed off on allowing Luther Arkwright to go digital, I would have been more motivated to do so knowing that I could make increased royalties for a protected time frame on its separate only bought downloads. I think the reason that no free download is given, will be contractual and probably to do with the licence, most likely both a download and a cd royalties will need to be paid as separate items, so if they give one away it would need to be paid twice. considering that download were not a thing when it was originally made, I find I a bit surprising that they have bothered renegotiating the licence, I don't think It sold that well upon release. but maybe it's more about going forward once the CD stock sells out. |
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Post by redsharkJason on Aug 20, 2016 3:16:39 GMT
The Destiny of the Doctor CDs bought from the Big Finish website originally did not include their matching story downloads, but NOW do. Perhaps after a certain amount of contractual time has past, this will also apply to the CD purchases of Luther Arkwright eventually including its equivalent story digital. The Big Finish Luther Arkwright news release does say that the download wouldn't be included with the CDs "at this time". If I was the talent that signed off on allowing Luther Arkwright to go digital, I would have been more motivated to do so knowing that I could make increased royalties for a protected time frame on its separate only bought downloads. I think the reason that no free download is given, will be contractual and probably to do with the licence, most likely both a download and a cd royalties will need to be paid as separate items, so if they give one away it would need to be paid twice. considering that download were not a thing when it was originally made, I find I a bit surprising that they have bothered renegotiating the licence, I don't think It sold that well upon release. but maybe it's more about going forward once the CD stock sells out. It also being a pet project of the Big Finish owner, probably has a lot to do with it now becoming digitally available. I wonder why, The Maltese Penguin and Return of the Daleks (the most recent examples before Arkwright went digital) included the complimentary digital with the past and present purchase of their CDs? Could it be that it had something to do with Paul Spragg's fan friendly intercession? The "larger cast" of The Adventures Luther Arkwright would presumably be more difficult to clear for downloads than the smaller casts of the Benny audios? The Gallifrey performer casts on average do seem to be roughly the same size as Arkwright's. |
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Post by omega on Aug 20, 2016 3:27:14 GMT
I think the reason that no free download is given, will be contractual and probably to do with the licence, most likely both a download and a cd royalties will need to be paid as separate items, so if they give one away it would need to be paid twice. considering that download were not a thing when it was originally made, I find I a bit surprising that they have bothered renegotiating the licence, I don't think It sold that well upon release. but maybe it's more about going forward once the CD stock sells out. It also being a pet project of the Big Finish owner, probably has a lot to do with it now becoming digitally available. I wonder why, The Maltese Penguin and Return of the Daleks (the most recent examples before Arkwright went digital) included the complimentary digital with the past and present purchase of their CDs? Could it be that it had something to do with Paul Spragg's fan friendly intercession? The "larger cast" of The Adventures Luther Arkwright would presumably be more difficult to clear for downloads than the smaller casts of the Benny audios? The Gallifrey performer casts on average do seem to be roughly the same size as Arkwright's. Arkwright is only a one-off at the moment, so once that one release was cleared, that's it. There's only the free download with CD purchase thing to do, which only involves the original writer. |
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Post by redsharkJason on Aug 20, 2016 3:53:28 GMT
It also being a pet project of the Big Finish owner, probably has a lot to do with it now becoming digitally available. I wonder why, The Maltese Penguin and Return of the Daleks (the most recent examples before Arkwright went digital) included the complimentary digital with the past and present purchase of their CDs? Could it be that it had something to do with Paul Spragg's fan friendly intercession? The "larger cast" of The Adventures Luther Arkwright would presumably be more difficult to clear for downloads than the smaller casts of the Benny audios? The Gallifrey performer casts on average do seem to be roughly the same size as Arkwright's. Arkwright is only a one-off at the moment, so once that one release was cleared, that's it. There's only the free download with CD purchase thing to do, which only involves the original writer. So, to be crystal clear here (and I'm not saying that your wrong), *only* the writer would make the allowance that an older CD only release could later on go digital? |
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Post by omega on Aug 20, 2016 4:00:14 GMT
Arkwright is only a one-off at the moment, so once that one release was cleared, that's it. There's only the free download with CD purchase thing to do, which only involves the original writer. So, to be crystal clear here (and I'm not saying that your wrong), *only* the writer would make the allowance that an older CD only release could later on go digital? It may be some kind of more complicated reason involving publishers and existing conditions that doesn't make it as easy as we assume it is. In the case of Luthor Arkwright the download has been cleared and made available for commercial release so everyone involved who can give their okay has done so. It's just the pairing of download to CD that needs to be dealt with. |
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Post by redsharkJason on Aug 20, 2016 4:16:51 GMT
So, to be crystal clear here (and I'm not saying that your wrong), *only* the writer would make the allowance that an older CD only release could later on go digital? It may be some kind of more complicated reason involving publishers and existing conditions that doesn't make it as easy as we assume it is. In the case of Luthor Arkwright the download has been cleared and made available for commercial release so everyone involved who can give their okay has done so. It's just the pairing of download to CD that needs to be dealt with. I suspect that all of us armchair quarterbacks are at least in striking distance of some of the truths for the processes involved.  |
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Post by kimalysong on Aug 22, 2016 16:30:39 GMT
Okay 30 mins into this and I hate to say this but I am totally lost and not enjoying this at all. So now I am wondering if it just doesn't appeal to me (because a bunch of you have said you enjoyed it) or if it's one of those cases where I should stick with it because it gets better?
I don't like to quit on something I spent money on but well it was on sale & I think if it's not a case where it will get better & it's just my own tastes don't agree with this I might as well switch to something I'm going to enjoy more.
edit: Well finished the 1st part of this (I assume it's the 1st part since the music started playing) and still do not feel engaged at all. I just have to assume this is one of the few Big Finish stories just not for me. I honestly can't even say what I don't like about it, I have no clue what is going on and don't know who anyone is. I just feel apathetic about it. Ah well!
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Post by Ela on Aug 23, 2016 3:41:07 GMT
I had to listen twice to really get the story, and I also looked up some information about the original story it was based on before listening the second time. I thought it was a good story.
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Post by kimalysong on Aug 23, 2016 10:33:45 GMT
I had to listen twice to really get the story, and I also looked up some information about the original story it was based on before listening the second time. I thought it was a good story. Perhaps I'll give it another try in the future but after an hour I think it's just not for me and should move onto something I enjoy more. |
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Post by aemiliapaula on Aug 23, 2016 12:02:14 GMT
I wasn't sure about this until I found out it was originally by Brian Talbot. I read his Alice in Sunderland from the library and it was really interesting and different. I bought the CD a while ago and I'm reading the graphic novel first. It's good but a bit confusing, since being an American I don't know about British history in as much detail. Sometimes this happens with Doctor Who stories too so I get to look it up and learn more about it. (Never mind it's alternate histories as well).
Plus the way the character is drawn his face reminds me of Bowie's, so that is the voice I hear in my head, it will take some getting used to hearing David Tennant's voice.
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Post by coffeeaddict on Aug 23, 2016 19:02:19 GMT
I really enjoyed this release. I didn't find that having no prior experience with the comic was an issue.
Here's hoping BF makes a sequel at some point.
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