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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2016 23:30:05 GMT
Hey everyone,
For those not in the know, the format for The Third Doctor era had been discussed by production (including The Doctor's exile), with UNIT's appearance in The Invasion intended as a percusoer to such tales with in light of sinking ratings and production costs. With Patrick, both Frazer and Wendy Padbury had options to renew their contract for The Third Doctor era. What if they had decided to stay onwards? How would they have featured? Jamie probably would have eventually helped to ease The Doctor's concerns about UNIT eventually, for instance. |
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Post by barnabaslives on Aug 29, 2016 1:14:48 GMT
They'd have made a delightful TARDIS team, and amnesia might never have been invented?
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Post by jasonward on Aug 29, 2016 1:18:59 GMT
The 3rd Doctor is by far my least favourite era of Who, just so much I don't like about it, but Jamie and Zoe had remained, it would have done a great deal to reduce or even remove my dislike of the era.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2016 2:25:05 GMT
They'd have made a delightful TARDIS team, and amnesia might never have been invented? Actually, I reckon the Time Lords would have placed memory blocks on both Zoe and the Doctor, so the former wouldn't use knowledge from the twenty-second century and the latter still couldn't gain access to his TARDIS. Sadly, we'd miss out on having Elizabeth Shaw come aboard as a companion, but then there would have been a very different emphasis to stories like The Silurians and The Ambassadors of Death. Zoe would have been the one stolen away by Reegan's men to the secret laboratory and I suspect that Jamie would have spent a great deal of time with the Brigadier trying to suss out definitive proof. I think Zoe would probably have been the one savaged in the barn in The Silurians as well. Inferno would have been a bit more difficult to pull off, but I suspect that you could have had Zoe and Jamie arrive as liaisons acting on behalf of the Leader and have the added dimension of the Doctor trying to get them to admit they were from another time. I suspect that they would have both been snapped up by the Time Lords in Terror of the Autons as punishment for his (accidental) visit to the parallel Inferno!Earth. I've wondered what it would have been like to have the Second Doctor carry on for just one more season before Jon Pertwee took over in the role. Wouldn't it have been interesting if the Second Doctor had regenerated instead of entering a healing coma come Episode 7 with the Third Doctor finally putting an end to Project: Inferno? |
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Post by mark687 on Aug 29, 2016 9:51:10 GMT
Similar to Jasonward I would've enjoyed it a lot more than I do.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Aug 30, 2016 13:05:22 GMT
I imagine Zoe would have been employed by the Brigadier as a scientific advisor, fulfilling much the same role as Caroline John's Liz Shaw. Jamie would have been hired as a UNIT soldier. There wouldn't have been a UNIT 'family' as such and the Brigadier wouldn't have featured as heavily, with most of the stories being 3, Jamie and Zoe travelling to that serial's adventure in Bessie rather than the Brigadier and UNIT troops.
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Post by icecreamdf on Aug 30, 2016 21:24:43 GMT
I love Jamie and Zoe, but I wouldn't change anything about the Third Doctor era. Besides, even after hearing Last of the Cybermen and that other Six trilogy, can't really imagine Jamie and Zoe with any Doctor but the Second.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2016 6:09:16 GMT
I'll add to Jason and Mark and say I'm not a big fan of the Pertwee era. Especially early on..it just isn't Doctor Who. It's Quatermass meets The Avengers with little of the "wonder" of the earlier Doctors. It's fine for what it is, but I think the show needed the clean break with the cast to make the change in format work (and let's not forget it DID work regardless of our own opinions - Pertwee's ratings shot up compared to late Hartnell and all of Troughton).
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Post by Timelord007 on Aug 31, 2016 6:53:20 GMT
I love the Third Doctor era & while Jamie & Zoe were great companions the show needed to move in a different direction so it was the right thing the new Doctor started his exile on earth companion less.
I love the Quatermass tone to series 7 & enjoyed all four stories especially, The Silurians & Inferno.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Aug 31, 2016 13:06:57 GMT
I love the Third Doctor era & while Jamie & Zoe were great companions the show needed to move in a different direction so it was the right thing the new Doctor started his exile on earth companion less. I wonder how different the ratings may have been if the Doctor hadn't been exiled and the third Doctor still travelled in time and space? |
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Post by Timelord007 on Aug 31, 2016 21:09:10 GMT
I love the Third Doctor era & while Jamie & Zoe were great companions the show needed to move in a different direction so it was the right thing the new Doctor started his exile on earth companion less. I wonder how different the ratings may have been if the Doctor hadn't been exiled and the third Doctor still travelled in time and space? Good question, the ratings were starting to slip towrds the end of the Second Doctor era so i do think exile him to Earth was a bold move which paid off as any potential threat was aimed at our earth. |
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Aug 31, 2016 21:53:29 GMT
I wonder how different the ratings may have been if the Doctor hadn't been exiled and the third Doctor still travelled in time and space? Good question, the ratings were starting to slip towrds the end of the Second Doctor era so i do think exile him to Earth was a bold move which paid off as any potential threat was aimed at our earth. Yeah, I think had there been no exile it would have been viewed as the 'same old, same old'. |
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Post by icecreamdf on Aug 31, 2016 23:05:52 GMT
Good question, the ratings were starting to slip towrds the end of the Second Doctor era so i do think exile him to Earth was a bold move which paid off as any potential threat was aimed at our earth. Yeah, I think had there been no exile it would have been viewed as the 'same old, same old'. Well, if nothing else, it still would have been the first era in color. Plus it would still feature an entirely new main cast, and it would still be the first time in the show when the Time Lords could show up occasionally. And, many of the great monsters like the Autons, Silurians, Master, and Sontarans may still have been introduced in that era. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 1:54:13 GMT
Yeah, I think had there been no exile it would have been viewed as the 'same old, same old'. Well, if nothing else, it still would have been the first era in color. Plus it would still feature an entirely new main cast, and it would still be the first time in the show when the Time Lords could show up occasionally. And, many of the great monsters like the Autons, Silurians, Master, and Sontarans may still have been introduced in that era. The downside from a completely practical perspective is that the every other week would be Colony in Space. In terms of production values, there simply just wasn't enough money to continue doing as they had done. Still, it opens up the rather interesting idea of having a story like The Mind of Evil set on an alien colony world or the Doctor being stranded in a particular solar system rather than stuck on a single planet. |
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Sept 1, 2016 10:51:44 GMT
Yeah, I think had there been no exile it would have been viewed as the 'same old, same old'. Well, if nothing else, it still would have been the first era in color. Plus it would still feature an entirely new main cast, and it would still be the first time in the show when the Time Lords could show up occasionally. And, many of the great monsters like the Autons, Silurians, Master, and Sontarans may still have been introduced in that era. I doubt the Master would have still been introduced. There would have been no need for the Doctor to have a Moriarty who he can fight on Earth. |
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Post by icecreamdf on Sept 1, 2016 16:19:36 GMT
Well, if nothing else, it still would have been the first era in color. Plus it would still feature an entirely new main cast, and it would still be the first time in the show when the Time Lords could show up occasionally. And, many of the great monsters like the Autons, Silurians, Master, and Sontarans may still have been introduced in that era. I doubt the Master would have still been introduced. There would have been no need for the Doctor to have a Moriarty who he can fight on Earth. Yeah, but he could still fight him elsewhere. The ahow had already experimented with evil Time Lords with the Monk and the War Chief, and I don't think they would have been able to resist giving the Doctor an arch enemy. |
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Sept 2, 2016 8:16:54 GMT
I doubt the Master would have still been introduced. There would have been no need for the Doctor to have a Moriarty who he can fight on Earth. Yeah, but he could still fight him elsewhere. The ahow had already experimented with evil Time Lords with the Monk and the War Chief, and I don't think they would have been able to resist giving the Doctor an arch enemy. I think they'd have just brought the Meddling Monk back rather than invent a new Time Lord antagonist. |
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Post by icecreamdf on Sept 2, 2016 13:39:06 GMT
Yeah, but he could still fight him elsewhere. The ahow had already experimented with evil Time Lords with the Monk and the War Chief, and I don't think they would have been able to resist giving the Doctor an arch enemy. I think they'd have just brought the Meddling Monk back rather than invent a new Time Lord antagonist. Well, they could have brought him back in Terror of the Autons, but they chose to make a new character instead. |
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Post by kimalysong on Sept 2, 2016 15:29:27 GMT
Personally I do love the Pertwee era despite the 2nd Doctor era being my favorite. I think Zoe would have fit in quite well in this era and it would have been interesting if she stayed. I do like Liz though and think she is underrated as a companion. The only thing I would change is making Zoe & Jamie lose their memories. I hate that end for a companion.
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