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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Sept 3, 2016 21:28:58 GMT
So the latest Christmas Special rumours are Jenna Coleman will return as Clara in flashbacks and possibly a Clara splinter in the rest of the Special. The Doctor will begin to remember Clara in the first episode of Class and will fully remember her by the end of the Christmas Special.
I love Jenna Coleman and Clara is my favourite companion but I can't help but feel it is way too soon for her to return. I'd rather they waited until she has been out of the show for a while so her return would feel more special. I'd rather see them bring back a character who hasn't been seen for ages - like Captain Jack. I'll be disappointed in this year's Christmas Special if they don't bring Jack back. It's the perfect time to do it because it's what everyone wants to see (as shown by the reaction to the fanmade Jack Is Back teaser. Moffat will have made a big mistake if he hasn't decided to bring Captain Jack back this year - a mistake that can only be corrected if he brings Jack back in an episode of Series 10 or Moffat's last episode instead. |
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Post by icecreamdf on Sept 4, 2016 20:09:18 GMT
He'll also be making a huge mistake if he doesn't bring back the Black Guardian, the Dulcians, Brian Pond, and the Atkinson Doctor. I want all of these to return!
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Sept 4, 2016 20:58:51 GMT
The Rowan Atkinson Doctor isn't canonical.
Brian Pond was cool - is there any more they could do with him without Amy and Rory though?
The Dulcians are too obscure.
The Black Guardian could return one day but I don't think there's any demand for him to now.
Lots of people want to see Jack return though, plus he's canonical, he isn't obscure and there's plenty yet that can be explored with his character - the missing two years or the Face of Boe origins.
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Post by icecreamdf on Sept 4, 2016 22:17:00 GMT
The Rowan Atkinson Doctor isn't canonical. Brian Pond was cool - is there any more they could do with him without Amy and Rory though? The Dulcians are too obscure. The Black Guardian could return one day but I don't think there's any demand for him to now. Lots of people want to see Jack return though, plus he's canonical, he isn't obscure and there's plenty yet that can be explored with his character - the missing two years or the Face of Boe origins. Maybe the Atkinson Doctor is just from a different universe or timeline. |
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Sept 4, 2016 22:32:37 GMT
The Rowan Atkinson Doctor isn't canonical. Brian Pond was cool - is there any more they could do with him without Amy and Rory though? The Dulcians are too obscure. The Black Guardian could return one day but I don't think there's any demand for him to now. Lots of people want to see Jack return though, plus he's canonical, he isn't obscure and there's plenty yet that can be explored with his character - the missing two years or the Face of Boe origins. Maybe the Atkinson Doctor is just from a different universe or timeline. Possibly - but there's been no indication for alternate universe Doctors in the new series (bar Metacrisis Doctor). I believe in Rise of the Cybermen the Doctor even states there aren't any. |
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Post by icecreamdf on Sept 4, 2016 22:42:09 GMT
Maybe the Atkinson Doctor is just from a different universe or timeline. Possibly - but there's been no indication for alternate universe Doctors in the new series (bar Metacrisis Doctor). I believe in Rise of the Cybermen the Doctor even states there aren't any. I don't remember any discussion of alternate Doctors in Rise of the Cybermen. Anyway, we've seen the Burner, and I think the Unbounds are suppossed to be alternate universes (though I've never heard them), so we know there are other Doctors. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2016 23:19:00 GMT
Possibly - but there's been no indication for alternate universe Doctors in the new series (bar Metacrisis Doctor). I believe in Rise of the Cybermen the Doctor even states there aren't any. I don't remember any discussion of alternate Doctors in Rise of the Cybermen. Anyway, we've seen the Burner, and I think the Unbounds are suppossed to be alternate universes (though I've never heard them), so we know there are other Doctors. That raises an interesting question about Pete's World actually. Following the notion that there are a multitude of differing incarnations all flitting about in their own continua, then where is the Doctor for that universe? Did he perish not long into his travels abroad or become exiled on another far more alien planet than Earth? The Atkinson!Doctor isn't canonical, but he may be "real" to the Doctor Who multiverse and according to The Tomorrow Windows was a distinct possibility for the Doctor's ninth incarnation before Eccleston, alongside the REG Doctor (who I'm almost certain will turn up later down the line) and a man whose description sounds a lot like Stephen Fry in a white suit. Methinks The Curse of Fatal Death be a bit too silly for canon personally, but there's scope to do a prequel like... oh, The Continuity of Errors or The Marmidons of Skonnos. |
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Post by Shiny on Sept 5, 2016 0:52:14 GMT
I'd love to see Captain Jack Harkness on the Doctor Who tv show again, but I wouldn't go as far as to say it would be "a big mistake" not to bring him back. We saw lots of him on tv. On the off chance we get any more of him, that'll be a bonus. It seems unlikely though. It has been six years since his last appearance, which was only a cameo anyway.
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Post by icecreamdf on Sept 5, 2016 3:17:40 GMT
I don't remember any discussion of alternate Doctors in Rise of the Cybermen. Anyway, we've seen the Burner, and I think the Unbounds are suppossed to be alternate universes (though I've never heard them), so we know there are other Doctors. That raises an interesting question about Pete's World actually. Following the notion that there are a multitude of differing incarnations all flitting about in their own continua, then where is the Doctor for that universe? Did he perish not long into his travels abroad or become exiled on another far more alien planet than Earth? He also didn't show up in the Inferno universe (though isn't there a spinoff that says that the dictator of that Earth was the Doctor?). I think that episode would have been a lot better if it had included an evil Jon Pertwee, but whatever. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2016 3:56:01 GMT
That raises an interesting question about Pete's World actually. Following the notion that there are a multitude of differing incarnations all flitting about in their own continua, then where is the Doctor for that universe? Did he perish not long into his travels abroad or become exiled on another far more alien planet than Earth? He also didn't show up in the Inferno universe (though isn't there a spinoff that says that the dictator of that Earth was the Doctor?). I think that episode would have been a lot better if it had included an evil Jon Pertwee, but whatever.  Yep, Timewyrm: Revelation says that the fascist Leader (as seen above) of that world resembled one of the faces offered at his trial. It was one of the many things that haunted him about that world, even after he had gone to sleep in his collective consciousness. It's kind of unnerving rewatching that story with the knowledge that he's lurking in the background as the Republic of Great Britain's very own version of Big Brother. Eerie to learn that you have the capacity to conquer an entire nation, possibly even an entire world if you ever chose to. |
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Sept 5, 2016 8:37:54 GMT
Possibly - but there's been no indication for alternate universe Doctors in the new series (bar Metacrisis Doctor). I believe in Rise of the Cybermen the Doctor even states there aren't any. I don't remember any discussion of alternate Doctors in Rise of the Cybermen. Anyway, we've seen the Burner, and I think the Unbounds are suppossed to be alternate universes (though I've never heard them), so we know there are other Doctors. I looked at the Rise of the Cybermen transcript and couldn't see any. I swear that there was a line though where the Doctor said there's no parallel universe Doctors. |
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Sept 5, 2016 13:35:27 GMT
He also didn't show up in the Inferno universe (though isn't there a spinoff that says that the dictator of that Earth was the Doctor?). I think that episode would have been a lot better if it had included an evil Jon Pertwee, but whatever. Yep, Timewyrm: Revelation says that the fascist Leader (as seen above) of that world resembled one of the faces offered at his trial. It was one of the many things that haunted him about that world, even after he had gone to sleep in his collective consciousness. It's kind of unnerving rewatching that story with the knowledge that he's lurking in the background as the Republic of Great Britain's very own version of Big Brother. Eerie to learn that you have the capacity to conquer an entire nation, possibly even an entire world if you ever chose to. Or in that Universe The Doctor was like the Master and vise-versa. The Master failed to stop him taking over Earth, was killed. And when Inferno Earth died its blazing death., The "Doctor" left to take another planet, without his best friend of old to try and stop him  |
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Post by icecreamdf on Sept 5, 2016 14:04:12 GMT
He also didn't show up in the Inferno universe (though isn't there a spinoff that says that the dictator of that Earth was the Doctor?). I think that episode would have been a lot better if it had included an evil Jon Pertwee, but whatever. Yep, Timewyrm: Revelation says that the fascist Leader (as seen above) of that world resembled one of the faces offered at his trial. It was one of the many things that haunted him about that world, even after he had gone to sleep in his collective consciousness. It's kind of unnerving rewatching that story with the knowledge that he's lurking in the background as the Republic of Great Britain's very own version of Big Brother. Eerie to learn that you have the capacity to conquer an entire nation, possibly even an entire world if you ever chose to. Did he actually resemble one of the faces at his trial? |
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Post by relativetime on Sept 5, 2016 15:00:23 GMT
I don't remember any discussion of alternate Doctors in Rise of the Cybermen. Anyway, we've seen the Burner, and I think the Unbounds are suppossed to be alternate universes (though I've never heard them), so we know there are other Doctors. That raises an interesting question about Pete's World actually. Following the notion that there are a multitude of differing incarnations all flitting about in their own continua, then where is the Doctor for that universe? Did he perish not long into his travels abroad or become exiled on another far more alien planet than Earth? Maybe the Time Lords in Pete's World were excessively cruel and exiled the Doctor to Planet X? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2016 20:36:13 GMT
Yep, Timewyrm: Revelation says that the fascist Leader (as seen above) of that world resembled one of the faces offered at his trial. It was one of the many things that haunted him about that world, even after he had gone to sleep in his collective consciousness. It's kind of unnerving rewatching that story with the knowledge that he's lurking in the background as the Republic of Great Britain's very own version of Big Brother. Eerie to learn that you have the capacity to conquer an entire nation, possibly even an entire world if you ever chose to. Did he actually resemble one of the faces at his trial? Actually, yeah... The sketch that the Doctor says looks too thin does seem to resemble an artist's interpretation of the man (without the moustache). Coupling this with the knowledge that the Doctor spent ten long years dying of radiation sickness (see Love and War), trying to get back to UNIT headquarters after defeating the Great One and Paul Cornell seems to give the typically fearless Third Doctor no small amount of trauma. That raises an interesting question about Pete's World actually. Following the notion that there are a multitude of differing incarnations all flitting about in their own continua, then where is the Doctor for that universe? Did he perish not long into his travels abroad or become exiled on another far more alien planet than Earth? Maybe the Time Lords in Pete's World were excessively cruel and exiled the Doctor to Planet X? That raises a very interesting possibility. Considering that the Cybermen originated on Earth, I'm wondering if the Doctor was in fact exiled to their version of Mondas? Hmm... Or in that Universe The Doctor was like the Master and vise-versa. The Master failed to stop him taking over Earth, was killed. And when Inferno Earth died its blazing death., The "Doctor" left to take another planet, without his best friend of old to try and stop him Neat idea. Face of the Enemy puts a similar spin on it with a very unpleasant fate for old Koschei. |
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Sept 6, 2016 11:28:55 GMT
Guess I'm going to have to get Face of the Enemy at some point then lol, or you could just tell me in a PM or a spoiler lol, i dont mind for that story lol
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2016 11:49:28 GMT
Guess I'm going to have to get Face of the Enemy at some point then lol, or you could just tell me in a PM or a spoiler lol, i dont mind for that story lol It's worth looking into purely to see the dynamic between Ian and the Master, particularly after he believes Barbara has been killed. {Spoiler}
Koschei and Ailla became stranded on Earth when Koschei's TARDIS was irreparably damaged in a battle with the Great Intelligence. His TARDIS was ruined and its central console was cannibalised by agents of the Republic of Great Britain, allowing them a means of travelling between parallel universes. The Republican Security Forces killed Ailla and British Intelligence enslaved the badly injured Koschei, imprisoning him and wiring him to their computers to forcibly extract information.
He was tortured to death several times during his interrogation, using up his remaining regenerations in the process. After meeting himself from a parallel universe, he begged for death. His counterpart complied by disconnecting his life-support systems. |
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Sept 6, 2016 12:55:57 GMT
Guess I'm going to have to get Face of the Enemy at some point then lol, or you could just tell me in a PM or a spoiler lol, i dont mind for that story lol It's worth looking into purely to see the dynamic between Ian and the Master, particularly after he believes Barbara has been killed. {Spoiler}
Koschei and Ailla became stranded on Earth when Koschei's TARDIS was irreparably damaged in a battle with the Great Intelligence. His TARDIS was ruined and its central console was cannibalised by agents of the Republic of Great Britain, allowing them a means of travelling between parallel universes. The Republican Security Forces killed Ailla and British Intelligence enslaved the badly injured Koschei, imprisoning him and wiring him to their computers to forcibly extract information.
He was tortured to death several times during his interrogation, using up his remaining regenerations in the process. After meeting himself from a parallel universe, he begged for death. His counterpart complied by disconnecting his life-support systems. Oooo very intriguing |
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