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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2016 3:41:39 GMT
Hey everyone,
I thought this might be a fun exercise. Reimagine the revival stories under the budget of the original series?
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Sept 5, 2016 10:22:20 GMT
Hey everyone,
I thought this might be a fun exercise. Reimagine the revival stories under the budget of the original series? Can we also put a twist on that by, say, having FEAR HER produced by Verity Lambert, with the budget she had?
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Post by aztec on Sept 5, 2016 10:41:19 GMT
Into The Dalek, Blink and The Voyage Of The Dammed strike me as something wacky enough that they might have attempted back in the 1960's...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2016 11:00:14 GMT
Alrighty, let's say... Hmm... "Aliens of London" / "World War Three" being produced back in Verity Lambert's day sounds particularly challenging.
Location footage would have been rather scarce, I suspect that a lot of it would have been shot much like The Dalek Invasion of Earth with a lot of it either indoors or on reusable sets. It's likely that it would have shared a similar atmosphere likewise to The War Machines, very nearly imitating The Avengers in style as well as substance. The joke monster created by the Slitheen would have been impossible to replicate, so it's likely that something much more like Dan Dare's Mekon would have been concocted for the benefit of the programme. The sense of global jeopardy would have been conveyed largely through character interactions and remarks rather than newscasts and the cliffhanger would likely have been the Doctor standing tall amongst the corpses of his colleagues, aghast, angry and afraid as the credits roll. The electrocution effect could have been easily achieved by setting up a few charges beneath the base of each actors' chair and detonating them en masse. The crowds seen in the revival stories would likely have been a great deal smaller as well with probably six or seven people at most in one room at a time, purely on the basis of how big the studio was in the 1960s.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Sept 5, 2016 11:27:44 GMT
Alrighty, let's say... Hmm... "Aliens of London" / "World War Three" being produced back in Verity Lambert's day sounds particularly challenging. Location footage would have been rather scarce, I suspect that a lot of it would have been shot much like The Dalek Invasion of Earth with a lot of it either indoors or on reusable sets. It's likely that it would have shared a similar atmosphere likewise to The War Machines, very nearly imitating The Avengers in style as well as substance. The joke monster created by the Slitheen would have been impossible to replicate, so it's likely that something much more like Dan Dare's Mekon would have been concocted for the benefit of the programme. The sense of global jeopardy would have been conveyed largely through character interactions and remarks rather than newscasts and the cliffhanger would likely have been the Doctor standing tall amongst the corpses of his colleagues, aghast, angry and afraid as the credits roll. The electrocution effect could have been easily achieved by setting up a few charges beneath the base of each actors' chair and detonating them en masse. The crowds seen in the revival stories would likely have been a great deal smaller as well with probably six or seven people at most in one room at a time, purely on the basis of how big the studio was in the 1960s. There is a lot of quality location footage in Dalek Invasion of Earth.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2016 11:49:40 GMT
Alrighty, let's say... Hmm... "Aliens of London" / "World War Three" being produced back in Verity Lambert's day sounds particularly challenging. Location footage would have been rather scarce, I suspect that a lot of it would have been shot much like The Dalek Invasion of Earth with a lot of it either indoors or on reusable sets. It's likely that it would have shared a similar atmosphere likewise to The War Machines, very nearly imitating The Avengers in style as well as substance. The joke monster created by the Slitheen would have been impossible to replicate, so it's likely that something much more like Dan Dare's Mekon would have been concocted for the benefit of the programme. The sense of global jeopardy would have been conveyed largely through character interactions and remarks rather than newscasts and the cliffhanger would likely have been the Doctor standing tall amongst the corpses of his colleagues, aghast, angry and afraid as the credits roll. The electrocution effect could have been easily achieved by setting up a few charges beneath the base of each actors' chair and detonating them en masse. The crowds seen in the revival stories would likely have been a great deal smaller as well with probably six or seven people at most in one room at a time, purely on the basis of how big the studio was in the 1960s. There is a lot of quality location footage in Dalek Invasion of Earth. That's certainly true, but I doubt they'd be able to do things like the Thames crash dive or the Doctor arriving outside of Ten Downing Street with the same kind of spectacle. Not in those very early days with the technology they were forced to deal with.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Sept 5, 2016 13:30:03 GMT
Day of the Doctor - Would be a third Doctor story. 'The War Doctor' would be Peter Cushing's 'Dr Who'. Patrick Troughton in place of Matt Smith's 11th Doctor.Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart instead of Kate and Benton instead of Osgood. Sarah Jane Smith in place of Clara. The Moment would have probably taken on the form of Susan Foreman instead of Rose Tyler. Gallifrey location filming would have taken place at a quarry with lots of indoor scenes for sequences set on Gallifrey. There would have only been one Dalek saucer and probably three or four Daleks. I doubt there would have been anything in the serial set in 1562. They would likely have saved money by focusing entirely on Gallifrey and the 'Time War' (this story would have served as the Time War's first mention). The paintings wouldn't be three-dimensional but simply called 'portals' which the Doctors can travel through. It would probably be post-Three Doctors when the third Doctor isn't stranded on Earth.
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Post by aemiliapaula on Sept 5, 2016 17:30:43 GMT
Osgood is a scientist so Liz Shaw for her. I like the idea of Susan as the Moment. The paintings could be like those diorama-type things in Nightmare of Eden that preserve worlds.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Sept 5, 2016 18:19:18 GMT
Osgood is a scientist so Liz Shaw for her. I like the idea of Susan as the Moment. The paintings could be like those diorama-type things in Nightmare of Eden that preserve worlds. Wouldn't need the paintings - no ER1 or Zygons!
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Sept 5, 2016 19:07:42 GMT
Osgood is a scientist so Liz Shaw for her. I like the idea of Susan as the Moment. The paintings could be like those diorama-type things in Nightmare of Eden that preserve worlds. Wouldn't need the paintings - no ER1 or Zygons! You would for Gallifrey Falls No More.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2016 20:08:26 GMT
Wouldn't need the paintings - no ER1 or Zygons! You would for Gallifrey Falls No More. I don't see why. You could easily remove the zygons completely. This is "reimagining" the stories, not just replicating them but with worse effects. It would obviously be a four parter, so the Gallifrey and UNIT elements would obviously need seriously padding out. It would be before the Time War so Gallifrey would still be intact so, basically it would end up being, ehhm, well, the Three Doctors basically. Although unveiling a Doctor from before Hartnell could have worked in Three Doctors, and made the resemblance even stronger.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2016 21:03:03 GMT
You would for Gallifrey Falls No More. I don't see why. You could easily remove the zygons completely. This is "reimagining" the stories, not just replicating them but with worse effects. Oh. I wish someone had told me that. You would for Gallifrey Falls No More. It would obviously be a four parter, so the Gallifrey and UNIT elements would obviously need seriously padding out. It would be before the Time War so Gallifrey would still be intact so, basically it would end up being, ehhm, well, the Three Doctors basically. Although unveiling a Doctor from before Hartnell could have worked in Three Doctors, and made the resemblance even stronger. On a similar note, The Day of Doctor Who (featuring Patrick Troughton, William Hartnell and Peter Cushing) has picked up enough momentum as a fun little "What if?" that some have even gone to such an effort as to manufacture telesnaps and memorabilia from scratch.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Sept 5, 2016 21:15:09 GMT
Wouldn't need the paintings - no ER1 or Zygons! You would for Gallifrey Falls No More. The Zygons weren't needed in DOTD for Gallifrey to fall, or not as the case turned out.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Sept 5, 2016 22:07:48 GMT
You would for Gallifrey Falls No More. I don't see why. You could easily remove the zygons completely. This is "reimagining" the stories, not just replicating them but with worse effects. It would obviously be a four parter, so the Gallifrey and UNIT elements would obviously need seriously padding out. It would be before the Time War so Gallifrey would still be intact so, basically it would end up being, ehhm, well, the Three Doctors basically. Although unveiling a Doctor from before Hartnell could have worked in Three Doctors, and made the resemblance even stronger. You would for Gallifrey Falls No More. The Zygons weren't needed in DOTD for Gallifrey to fall, or not as the case turned out. I was talking about the paintings. The Zygons wouldn't have to be there but the Gallifrey Falls No More painting definitely would given its significance to the plot.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Sept 5, 2016 22:56:06 GMT
The Gallifrey Falls painting doesn't actually contribute much, anyway.
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Post by icecreamdf on Sept 5, 2016 23:40:49 GMT
Hey everyone,
I thought this might be a fun exercise. Reimagine the revival stories under the budget of the original series? Can we also put a twist on that by, say, having FEAR HER produced by Verity Lambert, with the budget she had? When were the last London Olympics before 2012?
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Sept 6, 2016 9:25:52 GMT
Can we also put a twist on that by, say, having FEAR HER produced by Verity Lambert, with the budget she had? When were the last London Olympics before 2012? England 1966.
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Post by shutupbanks on Sept 6, 2016 9:37:35 GMT
Into The Dalek, Blink and The Voyage Of The Dammed strike me as something wacky enough that they might have attempted back in the 1960's... Into The Dalek - The Invisible Enemy/ Planet Of The Giants Voyage Of The Damned - Terror Of The Vervoids/ Nightmare Of Eden Blink is a story that could have been attempted in any era of the show with records/ cassettes/ videotapes exchanged for DVD extras. I offer: Flatline: TARDIS models and CSO Boneless Let's Kill Hitler - Michael Sheard!!! A Good Man Goes To War: The Brig and UNIT, K9, Leela, Jago and Lightfoot
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Sept 6, 2016 10:42:01 GMT
The Gallifrey Falls painting doesn't actually contribute much, anyway. I disagree. It's how the Doctors break their way into the Black Archive.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2016 10:43:17 GMT
Into The Dalek - The Invisible Enemy/ Planet Of The Giants Voyage Of The Damned - Terror Of The Vervoids/ Nightmare Of Eden Blink is a story that could have been attempted in any era of the show with records/ cassettes/ videotapes exchanged for DVD extras. I offer: Flatline: TARDIS models and CSO Boneless Let's Kill Hitler - Michael Sheard!!! A Good Man Goes To War: The Brig and UNIT, K9, Leela, Jago and Lightfoot A Good Man Goes to War could very easily have slotted into the celebratory clobber of Season 21 with Saward's bellicose soldiers and the Fifth Doctor's world-weary sarcasm. Blink could either have been an early experimental story like The Space Museum or The Edge of Destruction, but it also has the feel of that last season, so I can see it going either way. There's this extra sense of peril with the early setting too, since we know for a fact that there is no guarantee that the TARDIS will return to that earlier period -- even with the fast return switch. Flatline could have been a Third Doctor and Sarah Jane Smith story in that final season before his regeneration. I can just see Jon Pertwee stretching his arm through the itty bitty door to avoid the oncoming train and Sarah Jane trying to quickly talk the Brigadier out of interfering. ~ Let's see, what else is there? Ooh, it would have been interesting to see The Waters of Mars as a Patrick Troughton story. Bouncing over the Martian landscape (i.e. sand quarry) as happy as the day is long and bumping into the robot. A young Barbara Bain could have played Adelaide Brooke, it would've been interesting to see the two interact over the vidconn as he tries to talk his way out of going. The base would be a hell of a lot smaller, but I think that'd help contribute to the claustrophobic atmosphere. The Impossible Planet / The Satan Pit could have made a fairly decent and Androzani-esque story for the Sixth Doctor and Peri, even with the budgetary restraints they had in Season 23. The Doctor being lowered into the pit could have been achieved in the same way as Timelash.
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