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Post by kurumais on Sept 9, 2016 15:43:06 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 16:05:34 GMT
Kinda hard to comment on without knowing who or what he's reffering to with the "ego" stuff but it's great that despite his bigger more lucrative work with Arrow (and now other CW/DC shows) he's still passionate about Torchwood. It's not just something he did and moved on, he clearly does love the piece.
If it does come back, I can see it scaling back to being a UK production rather than a Starz-like deal. It didn't deliver anywhere near the level Starz wanted - less than a million - but even in the friday night spot in the middle of summer (a death slot if ever there was one), it did pretty great numbers for BBC1. Certainly big enough to think a revival makes sense from a commercial standpoint taking whatever ego-driven issues Barrowman refers to out of the equation.
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Post by aztec on Sept 9, 2016 19:18:04 GMT
Given Chibnall's past involvement with Torchwood I think an eventual return for Captain Jack in TV Who is reasonably likely, a story arc involving Captain Jack could be a useful way of gauging interest into a possible Torchwood TV resurrection.
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Post by agentten on Sept 9, 2016 20:21:36 GMT
I continue to hope we will see Captain Jack again, whether it be Who or Torchwood, or hopefully both.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2016 6:38:16 GMT
I dread to whisper the words, but I wonder if the issue is RTD. Torchwood is very much his baby and I could imagine it being a case of there not being more unless RTD decided to make more. Alternatively Moffat could well be resistant as the show would potentially compete with Series 10 (I'm not sure about this one as the two would surely be scheduled differently so I can't see one detracting from the other).
I agree that Chibnall's ascendance is a very hopeful sign.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Sept 10, 2016 8:52:22 GMT
Forget Torchwood, Jack and twelve needs to happen.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Sept 11, 2016 19:01:13 GMT
This link was on the Facebook Doctor Who Page. www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOnN8nEK_QA&feature=youtu.be&app=desktop"John Barrowman on the bringing back Torchwood obstacles: "This may change when someone leaves and someone new and wonderful comes in." We're guessing John is talking about Steven Moffat. So if Steven Moffat is the 'ego' stopping Torchwood from returning to TV then this could change when Chris Chibnall becomes showrunner." I haven't watch it, but have no reason to think it has anything to do with Moffat. Doctor Who Page UPDATE: John Barrowman on the bringing back Torchwood obstacles: "I was on a phone conversation with one of our executives telling me the obstacles we had to face in order to bring it back and my feeling is that it's a good show and it deserves to come back and I'm being told that it can't come back until *it got approval from certain people involved with Doctor Who.* and I don't understand why one show needs approval from another show in order to come back. This may change when someone leaves and someone new and wonderful comes in."
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2016 19:47:45 GMT
This link was on the Facebook Doctor Who Page. www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOnN8nEK_QA&feature=youtu.be&app=desktop"John Barrowman on the bringing back Torchwood obstacles: "This may change when someone leaves and someone new and wonderful comes in." We're guessing John is talking about Steven Moffat. So if Steven Moffat is the 'ego' stopping Torchwood from returning to TV then this could change when Chris Chibnall becomes showrunner." I haven't watch it, but have no reason to think it has anything to do with Moffat. Doctor Who Page UPDATE: John Barrowman on the bringing back Torchwood obstacles: "I was on a phone conversation with one of our executives telling me the obstacles we had to face in order to bring it back and my feeling is that it's a good show and it deserves to come back and I'm being told that it can't come back until *it got approval from certain people involved with Doctor Who.* and I don't understand why one show needs approval from another show in order to come back. This may change when someone leaves and someone new and wonderful comes in." OK, well that does sound like it's Moffat.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2016 10:58:26 GMT
Doctor Who Page UPDATE: John Barrowman on the bringing back Torchwood obstacles: "I was on a phone conversation with one of our executives telling me the obstacles we had to face in order to bring it back and my feeling is that it's a good show and it deserves to come back and I'm being told that it can't come back until *it got approval from certain people involved with Doctor Who.* and I don't understand why one show needs approval from another show in order to come back. This may change when someone leaves and someone new and wonderful comes in." OK, well that does sound like it's Moffat. Yeah, I've seen the video clip and John Barrowman certainly gives the impression the problem is SM; Barrowman's mischievous smile says it all without him having to say anyones name...
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Sept 13, 2016 20:02:54 GMT
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Sept 13, 2016 20:27:44 GMT
I think Moffat is after a Paternoster Gang series! And, if Moffat denies its him, then why would that mean that Jack wont come back?
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Sept 13, 2016 20:36:09 GMT
And, if Moffat denies its him, then why would that mean that Jack wont come back? He's the current showrunner. He'd effectively be John Barrowman's boss. No boss would hire someone they don't like.
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Post by grazey on Sept 13, 2016 20:52:29 GMT
What is it with John barrowman and not being able to keep schtum. Surely if you are away to have talks to bring torchwood back you keep quiet about it until talks have concluded. Telling people at a convention and Pointing fingers and hinting at people that is to blame for it not coming back isn't going to help. I like him as captain jack and I would watch if he did more torchwood but I wouldn't care less if he doesn't play him again. It's kind of ironic that He talks about some people egos when it's quite well known that he himself has a massive 1.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Sept 13, 2016 21:24:20 GMT
What is it with John barrowman and not being able to keep schtum. Surely if you are away to have talks to bring torchwood back you keep quiet about it until talks have concluded. Telling people at a convention and Pointing fingers and hinting at people that is to blame for it not coming back isn't going to help. I like him as captain jack and I would watch if he did more torchwood but I wouldn't care less if he doesn't play him again. It's kind of ironic that He talks about some people egos when it's quite well known that he himself has a massive 1. He may be very frustrated, and feels he needs to speak up.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Sept 13, 2016 21:25:42 GMT
And, if Moffat denies its him, then why would that mean that Jack wont come back? He's the current showrunner. He'd effectively be John Barrowman's boss. No boss would hire someone they don't like. How would he be his boss? Moffat has nothing to do with Torchwood, and Jack could return to DW for series 11.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Sept 13, 2016 21:59:18 GMT
He's the current showrunner. He'd effectively be John Barrowman's boss. No boss would hire someone they don't like. How would he be his boss? Moffat has nothing to do with Torchwood, and Jack could return to DW for series 11. If Jack returned in the 2017 Doctor Who Christmas Special Moffat would be John Barrowman's boss.
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Post by mark687 on Sept 13, 2016 22:02:25 GMT
Considering this is his first public personal statement ie seemly not BBC backed in almost 5 years, the disquiet must be getting pretty intense, or coming from sources considered "creditable"
On the other hand its all publicity.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Sept 13, 2016 22:25:59 GMT
I still don't understand how Moffat can stop a Torchwood 2017 series. Its obviously too late for a 2016 series.
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Post by grazey on Sept 13, 2016 22:41:08 GMT
What is it with John barrowman and not being able to keep schtum. Surely if you are away to have talks to bring torchwood back you keep quiet about it until talks have concluded. Telling people at a convention and Pointing fingers and hinting at people that is to blame for it not coming back isn't going to help. I like him as captain jack and I would watch if he did more torchwood but I wouldn't care less if he doesn't play him again. It's kind of ironic that He talks about some people egos when it's quite well known that he himself has a massive 1. He may be very frustrated, and feels he needs to speak up. And speaking out may skupper any potential return
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2016 23:31:59 GMT
As I said in the other thread, the media have taken Barrowman's comments and implications and made it clear to readers he meant Moffat - and that's what Moff has responded to with his statement. Far from being just show gpssip which we get all the time, this has gone to "news" status besmirching Moffat and that's why he has issued a very rare statement to say Barrowman should, essentially, get his facts right and shut up.
If Barrowman doesn't mean Moffat (but lets be honest, he did) then he needs to be more careful. And since it's all over the net and news sites that he did mean Moff, a statement wouldn't go amiss clarifying that he didn't if that's the case. Even just a line on social media. Alternatively he 100% does mean Moffat is to blame and just has his facts wrong. As we've all said, TW is nothing to do with Moffat and there's no reason he'd have to hold it up. And the last, and I think least likely version of events, is that Moffat's statement is a lie and while perhaps not responsible for TW, he has had a word with some people to do his best to scupper a return. For some reason that only John Barrowman seems to know. In that scenario, why BBC Drama would refuse to commission a show at the behest of someone unconnected with it though remains a mystery that again only JB would seem to be able to explain. If they wanted it on air, Moffat - as he said - would be entirely unable to stop it and, crucially, wouldn't want to stop it.
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