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Post by Whovitt on Oct 7, 2016 4:49:34 GMT
Thing is though, Atlantis couldn't be destroyed yet, as Professor Zaroff destroys it later in The Underwater Menace... Maybe we should do a poll - 'Which is better, The Underwater Menace or The Time Monster?' You must admit, Atlantis cops a bit of flack, eh?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2016 8:42:16 GMT
Thing is though, Atlantis couldn't be destroyed yet, as Professor Zaroff destroys it later in The Underwater Menace... Maybe we should do a poll - 'Which is better, The Underwater Menace or The Time Monster?' You must admit, Atlantis cops a bit of flack, eh? The Doctor mentions visiting the three Atlantises in Transit, so maybe we have more than a few lost continents that have sunk beneath the surface of the planet. Hell, All-Consuming Fire turned Ry'leh into a desolate world, there might be a planetary Atlantis floating about the galaxy somewhere.
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Post by Whovitt on Oct 7, 2016 8:56:15 GMT
Thing is though, Atlantis couldn't be destroyed yet, as Professor Zaroff destroys it later in The Underwater Menace... Maybe we should do a poll - 'Which is better, The Underwater Menace or The Time Monster?' You must admit, Atlantis cops a bit of flack, eh? The Doctor mentions visiting the three Atlantises in Transit, so maybe we have more than a few lost continents that have sunk beneath the surface of the planet. Hell, All-Consuming Fire turned Ry'leh into a desolate world, there might be a planetary Atlantis floating about the galaxy somewhere. It's not floating about a galaxy any more - they managed to get enough ZPM's to get it out of the Pegasus galaxy to Earth
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Oct 7, 2016 11:42:44 GMT
Well i always thought the Time Monster takes place first in the Atlantis's Timeline, then after the devastation, the Survivors travelled to another place, renamed it Atlantis and thats the one in Underwater Menace.
Also didnt The Magician's Apprentice a third Atlantis like Transit?
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Post by mrperson on Oct 7, 2016 18:13:52 GMT
I didn't realize it was hated.
I suppose Kronos looks laughably bad, but so does just about everything on a shoestring budget.
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Post by omega on Oct 7, 2016 23:56:18 GMT
The Quantum Archangel suggests that the different Atlantises we see are different areas of the whole. Underwater Menace was presumably on the outskirts, Time Monster is the main part of the city and The Daemons is likely one part that was closed off.
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Post by Hieronymus on Oct 8, 2016 5:56:47 GMT
There just wasn't enough story to fill out a six-parter.
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Post by omega on Oct 8, 2016 6:07:03 GMT
Is it because Jo couldn't be bothered to put away the dishes and decided to hang them on the TARDIS wall?
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Post by aemiliapaula on Oct 8, 2016 20:55:45 GMT
Gotta love Baby Benton!
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Post by icecreamdf on Oct 8, 2016 21:18:14 GMT
I actually liked the Time Monster more than I liked the Daemons. Of course the Daemons was very good, but I like the laboratory setting more than the village setting. I also liked some of the more ridiculous parts, like the feminist character who could be manipulated by saying "would you rather have a man do this," the Atlantian Queen who insists that the Master has the very bearing of a god, and Benton turning into a baby. The space loop with the two TARDISes was cool even if it didn't quite make sense (why was the Master's TARDIS still in his lab if it was supposed to be inside the Doctor's TARDIS), and the Master had some great scenes with the Doctor and Jo. And, there was that amazing "daisiest daisy" speech that the Doctor got. Sadly, Atlantis and Kronos both weren't very well realized, but I think most Who fans get used to ignoring that kind of thing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2016 4:06:18 GMT
The Quantum Archangel suggests that the different Atlantises we see are different areas of the whole. Underwater Menace was presumably on the outskirts, Time Monster is the main part of the city and The Daemons is likely one part that was closed off. I do rather like that idea. Maybe there's the Inner City, Outer Boundary and the Periphery, all of which had different civilisations divided into separate countries or city-states. If Atlantis was once large enough to be a continent, then it's not unreasonable to say that the varying Atlanteans were much like Europeans -- pieces of a greater geographical whole.
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Post by icecreamdf on Oct 9, 2016 15:55:41 GMT
I always assumemd that Kronos sunk Atlantis, but there were survivors. Than, way later, Professor Crazy Guy moved into Atlantis. Then the Daemon took the credit for destroying Atlantis because he was showing off and nobody was going to contradict him.
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