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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2016 21:48:09 GMT
I haven't been watching Class, but it doesn't seem to have done very well with UK ratings (less than 185,000 an episode, if the sources on G.B are accurate) though it seems to be more of a hit with international audiences, does it set itself up for another series? I can't imagine the BBC cancelling it after one series, before it is even shown on TV (cancelling a spin-off straight away could damage the Who brand given Patrick Ness's fame) but do you think a second series is likely? It did something very silly, I feel, and deliberately set it self up for a second series. The MCU approach, which everyone tries to mimmick. Frankly, I don't think it has payed off. I think it can only be saved by international stations or if they place it on prime time TV. If that doesn't pay off, which the latter likely won't, I doubt Series 2 is a possibility. And, if it got less than 185K for the opener, it presumably only goes down and that means a definite lack of profit. And, based on stats, Series 2 will likely do worse, like most TV shows. Then again they do have the Angels in it. So, you never know. Unless the Angels was a Series 10 set-up, which'd be fantastic, since I love the idea of "The Angel Invasion Of Earth" and would seem like what Moffat's finale would be thinking about it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2016 22:00:27 GMT
185,000 is very poor. Not even in the top 50. Especially, when fans were gloating at over 2 million views on iplayer for Doctor Who! I wonder if they were kinda blase with the advertising? I know it's an online series but the only news/marketing I've seen has been the occasional youtube video or radio times article, Class was supposed to appeal to a new, younger demographic and they shouldn't have just expected Who viewers to carry over, especially with the series on a 18 month break. I don't do streaming, and neither do thousands of potential viewers, will be interesting to see how hard they push this next year when it airs on TV. Yeah, the promotion was pretty awful and a lot of the hardcore fans are of older audiences or youngsters, of whom this is not age-appropriate to. It kind of appealed to a demographic that wasn't watching it anymore. This didn't work because I dn't know anyone who watched this who didn't watch Series 9. I think it kind of mucked up a bit saying it was a Doctor Who spin off.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2016 22:01:58 GMT
185,000 is very poor. Not even in the top 50. Especially, when fans were gloating at over 2 million views on iplayer for Doctor Who! But it isn't fair to compare it to iplayer views of shows that have actually been on TV. What other online only shows are in that top 50? To be fair to paulmorris777, this was meant to have a lot more views than this. BBC 3 only have the budget to make one big budget drama a year. This was it. Kind of a worrying sign that it didn't get over 183K people watching.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Dec 4, 2016 19:19:54 GMT
I haven't been watching Class, but it doesn't seem to have done very well with UK ratings (less than 185,000 an episode, if the sources on G.B are accurate) though it seems to be more of a hit with international audiences, does it set itself up for another series? I can't imagine the BBC cancelling it after one series, before it is even shown on TV (cancelling a spin-off straight away could damage the Who brand given Patrick Ness's fame) but do you think a second series is likely? I doubt Class is getting less than 185,000. Doctor Who is essentially the BBC's Star Wars. Who wouldn't watch a Doctor Who spinoff when there's literally nothing else interesting on BBC3 Online anyway?
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Post by mark687 on Dec 8, 2016 21:16:18 GMT
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Post by aztec on Jan 10, 2017 15:33:27 GMT
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 10, 2017 18:42:54 GMT
The first episode ratings rated higher than Newsnight and Through The Keyhole. The second episode was the highest rated during that time slot. I'd say they're pretty decent for that time of day.
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Post by sherlock on Jan 10, 2017 19:32:23 GMT
The first episode ratings rated higher than Newsnight and Through The Keyhole. The second episode was the highest rated during that time slot. I'd say they're pretty decent for that time of day. Doubt that's enough to warrant a second series unless ratings really pick up. I suspect the BBC's given up on it, it had virtually no promotion and was given a death slot, which is a shame.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 10, 2017 20:57:01 GMT
The first episode ratings rated higher than Newsnight and Through The Keyhole. The second episode was the highest rated during that time slot. I'd say they're pretty decent for that time of day. Doubt that's enough to warrant a second series unless ratings really pick up. I suspect the BBC's given up on it, it had virtually no promotion and was given a death slot, which is a shame. I hope it doesn't put them off doing another Doctor Who spinoff. Make a Clara and Ashildr spinoff and the ratings would tell a completely different story.
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Post by sherlock on Jan 11, 2017 0:02:36 GMT
Doubt that's enough to warrant a second series unless ratings really pick up. I suspect the BBC's given up on it, it had virtually no promotion and was given a death slot, which is a shame. I hope it doesn't put them off doing another Doctor Who spinoff. Make a Clara and Ashildr spinoff and the ratings would tell a completely different story. Please no. I'm still cross at Clara being brought back in Hell Bent. (Not any hated of the character, it's just I really liked her fate in Face the Raven) I hope they give Class a shot at a second series, but it's not looking hopeful.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 11, 2017 9:33:05 GMT
I hope it doesn't put them off doing another Doctor Who spinoff. Make a Clara and Ashildr spinoff and the ratings would tell a completely different story. Please no. I'm still cross at Clara being brought back in Hell Bent. (Not any hated of the character, it's just I really liked her fate in Face the Raven) But I'm sure you'd still watch it.
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Post by aztec on Jan 11, 2017 17:01:45 GMT
The first episode ratings rated higher than Newsnight and Through The Keyhole. The second episode was the highest rated during that time slot. I'd say they're pretty decent for that time of day. Doubt that's enough to warrant a second series unless ratings really pick up. I suspect the BBC's given up on it, it had virtually no promotion and was given a death slot, which is a shame. To be fair to the BBC it seems alot of viewers gave up on the series as soon as it was announced, I remember reading the Who Facebook page after the announcement and most of the comments were indifferent at best (and downright entitled/vitriolic at worst), then again most of the 'fans' who post on the Facebook page seem to have more fun moaning about how much they hate the show than actually talking about or watching it in a constructive manner...
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Post by sherlock on Jan 11, 2017 20:24:34 GMT
Doubt that's enough to warrant a second series unless ratings really pick up. I suspect the BBC's given up on it, it had virtually no promotion and was given a death slot, which is a shame. To be fair to the BBC it seems alot of viewers gave up on the series as soon as it was announced, I remember reading the Who Facebook page after the announcement and most of the comments were indifferent at best (and downright entitled/vitriolic at worst), then again most of the 'fans' who post on the Facebook page seem to have more fun moaning about how much they hate the show than actually talking about or watching it in a constructive manner... The Facebook comments aren't indicative of anything but hate. Someone will claim the show's been awful since Tennant left, someone will claim Moffat's ruined everything, someone will rant about Clara even if the post has nothing to do with her etc I still wonder why these people follow the Facebook page if all they're gonna do is moan
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Post by doctorkernow on Jan 30, 2017 21:54:41 GMT
Hello again. I enjoyed Class, particularly Katherine Kelly as Quill. It was trying to be Buffy for the 21st century. To a certain extent it succeeded. The teenagers were an interesting bunch. I found Charley's Prince reminded me of Prince William!.
Episode 7 was my favourite. I heard Katherine Kelly explain that the crew wrote her actual pregnancy into the storyline. She said she really enjoyed playing the part and would like to do so again.
Series 2? Hope so. Patrick Ness has also written the screenplay for A Monster Calls. This is very sad but beautifully written and realised.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 3:29:54 GMT
I'll be deeply saddened if Class isn't picked up for a second series. It wasn't flawless, but it was a great series and an intresting take and introversion of certain tropes (particularly April. Thank God. THAT'S HOW YOU BE RESPONSIBLE TO YOUR TARGET AUDIENCE)
God, The Doctor's due for a much deserved punch in the face when he returns, isn't he? (Messed up or not) And Charlie....Jesus, this series understands teenagers like no other. Of course, to a kid that line would appear so clear. (Although, I don't think the are really gone)
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Post by sherlock on Jun 4, 2017 16:24:40 GMT
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jun 4, 2017 18:38:10 GMT
It's a shame because it was a great show, but this is what happens when a TV programme gets poor scheduling and bad advertising. The connection to the main show was also very tenuous; spinning off a location is all well and good, but Class's failure just proves that you need a character from the main show in a regular role too. That's what piqued viewers' interests in Torchwood and The Sarah Jane Adventures. Although they may have got away with Class's only link being Coal Hill School had they featured the words 'From the universe of Doctor Who' in the trailers.
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