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Post by redsharkJason on Nov 26, 2016 6:38:55 GMT
A Class discussion thread for episodes: - The Metaphysical Engine, or What Quill Did (S01E07)
- The Lost (S01E08)
Will there be a Series 2 of Class? Is Ballon a shape-shifting Zygon? Will Quill and Matteusz, both make it out alive from Series 1? Will you be buying Series 1 of Class on DVD? Are you interested in pursing to read any of its 3 (so far) published novels?
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Nov 26, 2016 20:24:38 GMT
I loved The Metaphysical Engine. I hope they bring back the Metaphysical Engine device at some point.
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Post by mark687 on Nov 26, 2016 20:55:44 GMT
If I was Charlie I'd run
It's a really clever move, all this characters got left is revenge and the more she explained her backstory the more just it seems.
However this means maybe the finale will be over-packed?
* Shadow Kin strike * Proper Quil and Charlie resolution * The gang reunited * Are The Governors full motives revealed? * Does The Doctor return and offer practical help and advice?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2016 10:14:51 GMT
* Does The Doctor return and offer practical help and advice? Probably resolves the whole story for them...
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Nov 27, 2016 11:44:33 GMT
* Does The Doctor return and offer practical help and advice? Probably resolves the whole story for them... I doubt it. The characters are a lot more experienced coming into episode eight than they were the opener. They don't need the Doctor to fight their battles anymore.
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Post by mark687 on Nov 27, 2016 11:53:07 GMT
If he doesn't what was the point of the setting?
As I keep saying this would be an average / good Sci-Fi show in its own right but the fact its set in the DW universe really frustrates me.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2016 20:30:42 GMT
Probably resolves the whole story for them... I doubt it. The characters are a lot more experienced coming into episode eight than they were the opener. They don't need the Doctor to fight their battles anymore. Maybe. But then again we've had a ton of wasted power development of the last few years...
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Post by mark687 on Dec 3, 2016 10:54:40 GMT
* Are The Governors full motives revealed?
Well now we know, at least its a plausible reason for the Class cast to appear in the main show but BF did it first!
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Dec 3, 2016 13:16:05 GMT
I think it's fair to say episode eight was a very eventful episode. I mean, there were so many plot twists!
The parents' deaths, April's new body, the Weeping Angels, that room full of Governors behind the 'Staff Only' door...
I totally didn't expect any of that to happen - and that's the sign of a good finale. I really hope there's a series two.
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Post by fitzoliverj on Dec 3, 2016 14:44:35 GMT
"The Lost" was not as good as the previous episode (and it's unfortunate for Charlie that two future versions of himself didn't come back and think up an alternative solution for him).
Hmm... I wonder if killing off two of the characters' parents (including Ram's dad, the most level-headed and normal person on television) will make the structure of the show a bit difficult for a second series. I can't help wondering whether the conclusion has set up, not "Class" Series 2, but the forthcoming "Doctor Who" series; at the very least, I think the way things ended is one of those cases where the writers are hedging their bets as to whether a sequel will be commissioned (the ongoing story has been concluded, but other things set up should they wish to continue).
And - is it just the same actor, or is Cyril Nri reprising the Shopkeeper? Frankly, I always reckoned the Shopkeeper was up to something, and whereas the Governors apparently have some link with time the Shopkeeper said he was banned from time travel himself.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Dec 3, 2016 16:17:16 GMT
Hmm... I wonder if killing off two of the characters' parents (including Ram's dad, the most level-headed and normal person on television) will make the structure of the show a bit difficult for a second series. I can't help wondering whether the conclusion has set up, not "Class" Series 2, but the forthcoming "Doctor Who" series; at the very least, I think the way things ended is one of those cases where the writers are hedging their bets as to whether a sequel will be commissioned (the ongoing story has been concluded, but other things set up should they wish to continue). I doubt it. Ram has a mother that could be introduced in a second series and Tanya has her brothers. April still has both parents (although the way they treat her could be different now she's in a different body). I also don't see why they'd use a spinoff to introduce elements of the next series of the main show. That doesn't make sense to me, especially when they don't know how much of the Class audience also watch Doctor Who and vice versa.
Hopefully it's the Shopkeeper. It would make sense to finish his story in the new spinoff given that they can't do it in the Sarah Jane Adventures any more.
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Post by aztec on Dec 3, 2016 16:39:57 GMT
I haven't been watching Class, but it doesn't seem to have done very well with UK ratings (less than 185,000 an episode, if the sources on G.B are accurate) though it seems to be more of a hit with international audiences, does it set itself up for another series? I can't imagine the BBC cancelling it after one series, before it is even shown on TV (cancelling a spin-off straight away could damage the Who brand given Patrick Ness's fame) but do you think a second series is likely?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2016 16:49:00 GMT
I haven't been watching Class, but it doesn't seem to have done very well with UK ratings (less than 185,000 an episode, if the sources on G.B are accurate) though it seems to be more of a hit with international audiences, does it set itself up for another series? I can't imagine the BBC cancelling it after one series, before it is even shown on TV (cancelling a spin-off straight away could damage the Who brand given Patrick Ness's fame) but do you think a second series is likely? It hasn't even been broadcast yet. How much of an audience does BBC 3 get for other shows, does anyone know?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2016 16:57:55 GMT
Also, does this mean I'm going to have to watch it now?
And what happened to Ian? He's supposed to be chair of the governors. Bet he's retired, this wouldn't have happened under his watch.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Dec 3, 2016 17:12:28 GMT
I haven't been watching Class, but it doesn't seem to have done very well with UK ratings (less than 185,000 an episode, if the sources on G.B are accurate) though it seems to be more of a hit with international audiences, does it set itself up for another series? I can't imagine the BBC cancelling it after one series, before it is even shown on TV (cancelling a spin-off straight away could damage the Who brand given Patrick Ness's fame) but do you think a second series is likely? 185,000 is very poor. Not even in the top 50. Especially, when fans were gloating at over 2 million views on iplayer for Doctor Who!
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Post by aztec on Dec 3, 2016 17:23:18 GMT
I haven't been watching Class, but it doesn't seem to have done very well with UK ratings (less than 185,000 an episode, if the sources on G.B are accurate) though it seems to be more of a hit with international audiences, does it set itself up for another series? I can't imagine the BBC cancelling it after one series, before it is even shown on TV (cancelling a spin-off straight away could damage the Who brand given Patrick Ness's fame) but do you think a second series is likely? 185,000 is very poor. Not even in the top 50. Especially, when fans were gloating at over 2 million views on iplayer for Doctor Who! I wonder if they were kinda blase with the advertising? I know it's an online series but the only news/marketing I've seen has been the occasional youtube video or radio times article, Class was supposed to appeal to a new, younger demographic and they shouldn't have just expected Who viewers to carry over, especially with the series on a 18 month break. I don't do streaming, and neither do thousands of potential viewers, will be interesting to see how hard they push this next year when it airs on TV.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Dec 3, 2016 17:40:03 GMT
185,000 is very poor. Not even in the top 50. Especially, when fans were gloating at over 2 million views on iplayer for Doctor Who! I wonder if they were kinda blase with the advertising? I know it's an online series but the only news/marketing I've seen has been the occasional youtube video or radio times article, Class was supposed to appeal to a new, younger demographic and they shouldn't have just expected Who viewers to carry over, especially with the series on a 18 month break. I don't do streaming, and neither do thousands of potential viewers, will be interesting to see how hard they push this next year when it airs on TV. The quality of the tv trailers hasn't inspired me. Perhaps longer trailers would have been better. A BBC One BTS special? Have the cast been interviewed on primetime tv?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2016 21:01:04 GMT
I haven't been watching Class, but it doesn't seem to have done very well with UK ratings (less than 185,000 an episode, if the sources on G.B are accurate) though it seems to be more of a hit with international audiences, does it set itself up for another series? I can't imagine the BBC cancelling it after one series, before it is even shown on TV (cancelling a spin-off straight away could damage the Who brand given Patrick Ness's fame) but do you think a second series is likely? 185,000 is very poor. Not even in the top 50. Especially, when fans were gloating at over 2 million views on iplayer for Doctor Who! But it isn't fair to compare it to iplayer views of shows that have actually been on TV. What other online only shows are in that top 50?
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Dec 3, 2016 21:17:01 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2016 21:44:02 GMT
"The Lost" was not as good as the previous episode (and it's unfortunate for Charlie that two future versions of himself didn't come back and think up an alternative solution for him). Hmm... I wonder if killing off two of the characters' parents (including Ram's dad, the most level-headed and normal person on television) will make the structure of the show a bit difficult for a second series. I can't help wondering whether the conclusion has set up, not "Class" Series 2, but the forthcoming "Doctor Who" series; at the very least, I think the way things ended is one of those cases where the writers are hedging their bets as to whether a sequel will be commissioned (the ongoing story has been concluded, but other things set up should they wish to continue). And - is it just the same actor, or is Cyril Nri reprising the Shopkeeper? Frankly, I always reckoned the Shopkeeper was up to something, and whereas the Governors apparently have some link with time the Shopkeeper said he was banned from time travel himself. I wonder if there will be a second series and what the deal with the Angels was. I have a feeling there won't be Series 2, since it's got quite disappointing ratings. And the Angels thing was a set-up for Series 10, but won't work as well since about a 50th of the people who watched Doctor Who watched that.
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