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Post by timleschild on Sept 14, 2022 11:48:00 GMT
So... what happened? Sudden character death, or something more interesting? Watch it to find out!
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Post by elkawho on Sept 14, 2022 12:09:50 GMT
So... what happened? Sudden character death, or something more interesting? MUCH more interesting, but you'll have to watch to find out.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Sept 14, 2022 14:48:13 GMT
Red Dwarf Series 2&3
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Post by Kestrel on Sept 15, 2022 10:29:00 GMT
So... what happened? Sudden character death, or something more interesting? MUCH more interesting, but you'll have to watch to find out. Ooh, you've piqued my interest. After the GoT show I didn't really expect anything from the spin-off, but I'll add it to my list now.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Sept 15, 2022 12:27:19 GMT
She Hulk S01E05. They still can't quite get the CGI right..Oh well..
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Post by elkawho on Sept 15, 2022 14:05:54 GMT
MUCH more interesting, but you'll have to watch to find out. Ooh, you've piqued my interest. After the GoT show I didn't really expect anything from the spin-off, but I'll add it to my list now. Yeah, I understand that. After the way GoT ended I was not looking forward to this show at all, but I gave it a shot mostly to watch Matt Smith. I wasn't sure I was going to stick with it. But it's very, very good. I think it helps that the head writers are not the same guys who crashed and burned GoT. Give it a shot.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2022 15:41:31 GMT
Finished Series 1 of The New Statesman. Loved it.
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Post by shutupbanks on Sept 16, 2022 6:06:43 GMT
Star Trek Enterprise, Season 4, Episode 22: These Are The Voyages...
It's been a long road...
Actually, it's just over a year since I started watching this series for the first time. My verdict is that it's pretty solid, middle-grade Trek. I've really enjoyed it. What I've liked most has been the idea being carefully seeded throughout it that the show as a whole leads to something bigger: the rest of the Trek that "comes after" it. I also said way back when that Archer was the type of Captain who realised that he was becoming outdated and he needed to enact some kind of change within himself before he made himself redundant. What we see in his story across the four seasons is something that a lot of viewers and critics really may have missed: Archer isn't Kirk or Picard. He's Archer. His growth is what makes the Federation happen. He isn't as polished or idealistic as other Captains because he hasn't had the benefit of their training, but he causes it to happen. We see him committing acts that we would never see another Captain commit (like stealing a warp core from another ship, rendering it helpless) because he is from an earlier, less morally certain time. It's handled terribly in a few episodes but the idea that Archer becomes a Starfleet legend from being someone who is okay with committing criminal acts because of the bigger picture is a great idea. We see him learning along the way. He's not a likeable character but he becomes a trustworthy one. And honestly, he's one of the few characters in the history of the show who has to make genuinely bad choices from a range of awful options.
Of the four seasons I think I enjoyed the third the most. The concept of a season-long arc dealing almost entirely with one story is so common now in genre television that it's hard to believe that it was a radical act just twenty years ago (I know Blakes 7 and Babylon 5 were there first but they are exceptions rather than the rule). The Xindi war didn't always work but it was such a great concept and bold move that I loved it, though I can see why some traditionalist Trek fans may have seen it as a step backwards for the show. We got some genuinely weird aliens and stories out of it as well as some dark places where our characters went because they were so far away from home without guidance from their superiors. And some amazing cliffhangers as well.
Honestly, though, I really don't know why Enterprise has such a terrible reputation amongst fandom: it's pretty good television and it tried to do something interesting in the Trek universe. While I'm not a fan of prequels this at least tried to be careful with the future history it was leading into and showed some kind of logical progression. I know "it tried" isn't the most encouraging assessment but it did.
Actually, after recent years, I can understand just why it has the reputation that it does: the theme song isn't brilliant but it polarised audiences because they hadn't had a Trek tune with lyrics before. It's a pretty generic song as well, but it annoys me that there are people who get themselves het up about a theme tune. The constant direction of the male gaze on T'Pol and to a lesser extent Hoshi was also a step backwards, as was the homogeneity of the crew. There was also the fact that it was hamstrung by what had happened in established Trek history which made it difficult for a lot of favourite alien races to make an appearance. And when it did happen it wasn't always successful (Acquisition, I'm looking at you).
There's also that series finale. It was the first modern Trek to not get a big two-hour finale and, to make matters worse, it was hijacked by Riker and Troi from Next Gen. I don't actually mind the episode but as a finale it sucks. The six-year time jump is too sudden (Riker is the only one who looks like he's aged) and it just fritters away a lot of goodwill.
But, as the first Trek show since the original to have its stories genuinely reflect current world events, it was terrific. There was a genuine attempt to reflect on what 9/11 had done to society and what was happening in the world. It was often hamfisted and less than subtle (while I love the Xindi arc, it was pretty blatant with what it was trying to do) but it at least tried to engage the topic in a way that feels now to be fairly honest if hampered by domestic politics.
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Post by Timelord007 on Sept 16, 2022 7:02:23 GMT
She Hulk S01E05. They still can't quite get the CGI right..Oh well.. Or script, characters etc, my niece was watching ep5 to try and wind me up I said you want to waste 30mins of your life on crap go ahead but I'tm not.
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Post by Kestrel on Sept 16, 2022 7:07:45 GMT
Is there much lawyering in She-Hulk? I kinda wanna watch it, but I'm afraid it'll be like Daredevil, where they briefly tease some interesting legal drama and then spend all their time in dark, industrial sets with overchoreographed fistfights. .... @ shutupbanks You may want to give some of the post-series novels a try. They can be a bit YMMV (as such things tend to be) but I found them pretty enjoyable. There aren't many--just the Romulan War duology (which isn't so great) and a handful of "Rise of the Federation" novels, which are better. They're a bit more political and build off of Archer's role in S4 as he's now an admiral in the newly-formed Starfleet trying to hold everything together. I can answer that with a high degree of (hopefully not misplaced) confidence: it's the same reason the fandom continues to harbor such withering disdain for Catherine Pulaski. Basically, first impressions matter more than almost anything else. Pulaski was mean to Data in her first scene, so it doesn't matter that she immediately apologizes, corrects her behavior going forward, and becomes a better friend to Data than anyone else on the ship--she was introduced as a "bitch," and that's all she'll ever be to a remarkably large segment of the fandom. (Well, let's not pretend that there's not already a healthy amount of misogyny at play there, but I don't think it's accurate to say the hate for Pulaski is entirely motivated by bigotry.)So then look at how Broken Bow got off on the wrong foot by immediately irritating fans, who were already against the show from before it had even aired: they didn't want a prequel (for very valid reasons that have only become more relevant with time); they felt that dropping the "Star Trek" name and calling the show "Enterprise" (and I don't know if this was ever actually planned or just rumored) demonstrate a sense of shame/self-hatred for the brand; the "Akiraprise" NX-class was very off-putting, doubly so with the revelation (not sure when it came out, but it wasn't kept secret for long) that the producers originally wanted to NX-class to be an actual Akira-class starship from First Contact -- indicating a total disregard for continuity and consistency. And then Broken Bow airs. And it's... it's an okay story in isolation, but filled with little details that seemed specifically engineered to annoy fans. First, they ditched the traditional orchestral score for the opening and used a lyrical one, which is still a meme among older fans for being bad / embarrassing / cringe / whatever. Then there's the technology... which is exactly the same as in the TNG shows, sometimes with a noun slightly changed. It's supposed to be a more primitive era, but they've still got transporters, replicatorsprotein resequenders, shieldspolarized hull plating, photonphotonic torpedoes, and phasersphase cannons. (The same issue that nuTrek suffers from: in both cases it's clear that the writers either only want to write TNG-era Trek, or only know how to write TNG-era Trek, but are stuck in the past because the money men are infatuated with Kirk and Spock like it's still the 80s.) And then there's the plot, which also seems to disregard the "sanctified" canon (where the first contact with the Klingon Empire was supposed to have been "disasterous" to a feel-good happy ending where Archer gets a standing ovation from the Klingon High Council. But also, while we're listing things certain "fans" are still irrationally angry about... Jolene Blalock. She was too sexy! That's basically it. That's the point. Nevermind that T'Pol became one of, if not the, best characters on the show... that awkward scene where she and Archer rubbed lube all over each other while in their underwear was derided as cheap titillation catering to the lowest common denominator. Those same abhorrent not-nerds that CBS/Paramount was trying to cater to already by ditching the "Star Trek" name and orchestral opening. I can't even begin to count the number of times I've seen fans talk about Enterprise say that they wanted to, "give the show a chance," but didn't even make it to the end of the pilot because they stopped watching after that decontamination scene. And for the viewers who kept watching -- and this was back in the dark agesgolden age of TV where everyone had to wait a full week between each episode -- weren't exactly rewarded. That first season had some high points, but not many, and not very high, and many low points. So people stopped watching. My understanding is that... Manny Coto, I think, managed to (pretty impressively) turn-around the declining viewership ratings in S4, and by then Enterprise was actually performing fairly well, and likely could have improved far more if it had been given the chance. But in the minds of the execs, the series was a failure after those first two seasons, and they weren't inclined to keep funding it. .... So, yeah. Sorry for the essay. The long and short of it is that Enterprise was a pretty great show, but shot itself in the foot right out of the gate and never really recovered. Some fans were able to forgive it for that, thanks in large part to the shift to more continuity-heavy, semi-serial storytelling in the first arc... but not enough to change the minds of the people in charge. In a lot of the analyses you'll see fans write up, they point to the convoluted temporal Cold War arc, or Archer's character (or lack thereof) as reasons for Enterprise's failure, but when you see fans discussing it -- casually -- most of what they vent about tends to be from the first season, and almost all of that from the first episode. Which is the exact same thing you see when fans discuss Pulaski -- just that first scene. First impressions are everything.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Sept 16, 2022 7:13:59 GMT
Is there much lawyering in She-Hulk? I kinda wanna watch it, but I'm afraid it'll be like Daredevil, where they briefly tease some interesting legal drama and then spend all their time in dark, industrial sets with overchoreographed fistfights. .... @ shutupbanks You may want to give some of the post-series novels a try. They can be a bit YMMV (as such things tend to be) but I found them pretty enjoyable. There aren't many--just the Romulan War duology (which isn't so great) and a handful of "Rise of the Federation" novels, which are better. They're a bit more political and build off of Archer's role in S4 as he's now an admiral in the newly-formed Starfleet trying to hold everything together. I can answer that with a high degree of (hopefully not misplaced) confidence: it's the same reason the fandom continues to harbor such withering disdain for Catherine Pulaski. Basically, first impressions matter more than almost anything else. Pulaski was mean to Data in her first scene, so it doesn't matter that she immediately apologizes, corrects her behavior going forward, and becomes a better friend to Data than anyone else on the ship--she was introduced as a "bitch," and that's all she'll ever be to a remarkably large segment of the fandom. (Well, let's not pretend that there's not already a healthy amount of misogyny at play there, but I don't think it's accurate to say the hate for Pulaski is entirely motivated by bigotry.)So then look at how Broken Bow got off on the wrong foot by immediately irritating fans, who were already against the show from before it had even aired: they didn't want a prequel (for very valid reasons that have only become more relevant with time); they felt that dropping the "Star Trek" name and calling the show "Enterprise" (and I don't know if this was ever actually planned or just rumored) demonstrate a sense of shame/self-hatred for the brand; the "Akiraprise" NX-class was very off-putting, doubly so with the revelation (not sure when it came out, but it wasn't kept secret for long) that the producers originally wanted to NX-class to be an actual Akira-class starship from First Contact -- indicating a total disregard for continuity and consistency. And then Broken Bow airs. And it's... it's an okay story in isolation, but filled with little details that seemed specifically engineered to annoy fans. First, they ditched the traditional orchestral score for the opening and used a lyrical one, which is still a meme among older fans for being bad / embarrassing / cringe / whatever. Then there's the technology... which is exactly the same as in the TNG shows, sometimes with a noun slightly changed. It's supposed to be a more primitive era, but they've still got transporters, replicatorsprotein resequenders, shieldspolarized hull plating, photonphotonic torpedoes, and phasersphase cannons. (The same issue that nuTrek suffers from: in both cases it's clear that the writers either only want to write TNG-era Trek, or only know how to write TNG-era Trek, but are stuck in the past because the money men are infatuated with Kirk and Spock like it's still the 80s.) And then there's the plot, which also seems to disregard the "sanctified" canon (where the first contact with the Klingon Empire was supposed to have been "disasterous" to a feel-good happy ending where Archer gets a standing ovation from the Klingon High Council. But also, while we're listing things certain "fans" are still irrationally angry about... Jolene Blalock. She was too sexy! That's basically it. That's the point. Nevermind that T'Pol became one of, if not the, best characters on the show... that awkward scene where she and Archer rubbed lube all over each other while in their underwear was derided as cheap titillation catering to the lowest common denominator. Those same abhorrent not-nerds that CBS/Paramount was trying to cater to already by ditching the "Star Trek" name and orchestral opening. I can't even begin to count the number of times I've seen fans talk about Enterprise say that they wanted to, "give the show a chance," but didn't even make it to the end of the pilot because they stopped watching after that decontamination scene. And for the viewers who kept watching -- and this was back in the dark agesgolden age of TV where everyone had to wait a full week between each episode -- weren't exactly rewarded. That first season had some high points, but not many, and not very high, and many low points. So people stopped watching. My understanding is that... Manny Coto, I think, managed to (pretty impressively) turn-around the declining viewership ratings in S4, and by then Enterprise was actually performing fairly well, and likely could have improved far more if it had been given the chance. But in the minds of the execs, the series was a failure after those first two seasons, and they weren't inclined to keep funding it. .... So, yeah. Sorry for the essay. The long and short of it is that Enterprise was a pretty great show, but shot itself in the foot right out of the gate and never really recovered. Some fans were able to forgive it for that, thanks in large part to the shift to more continuity-heavy, semi-serial storytelling in the first arc... but not enough to change the minds of the people in charge. In a lot of the analyses you'll see fans write up, they point to the convoluted temporal Cold War arc, or Archer's character (or lack thereof) as reasons for Enterprise's failure, but when you see fans discussing it -- casually -- most of what they vent about tends to be from the first season, and almost all of that from the first episode. Which is the exact same thing you see when fans discuss Pulaski -- just that first scene. First impressions are everything.The lawyering in She Hulk reminds me of "Boston Legal", now that was a great show.. This episode was only 24 minutes.. There has to be a pay off there is 2-4 episodes left I believe.. I am enjoying it, however as someone who has been reading She Hulk comix since the 80's- there is so much they could do with the character.
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Post by Kestrel on Sept 16, 2022 7:26:34 GMT
Now that gets me much more interested! The same TV channel I was glued to as a kid for the Babylon 5 reruns (it was this local station tied to the university for some reason) would also air a *ton* of Boston Legal, so I grew up on that show, too. I even tried, at one point, to grow massive sideburns like one of the characters (Buzz Lightyear?).
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There’s a horror movie called Alien? That’s really offensive. No wonder everyone keeps invading you.
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Post by shutupbanks on Sept 16, 2022 7:58:27 GMT
Is there much lawyering in She-Hulk? I kinda wanna watch it, but I'm afraid it'll be like Daredevil, where they briefly tease some interesting legal drama and then spend all their time in dark, industrial sets with overchoreographed fistfights. .... @ shutupbanks You may want to give some of the post-series novels a try. They can be a bit YMMV (as such things tend to be) but I found them pretty enjoyable. There aren't many--just the Romulan War duology (which isn't so great) and a handful of "Rise of the Federation" novels, which are better. They're a bit more political and build off of Archer's role in S4 as he's now an admiral in the newly-formed Starfleet trying to hold everything together. I can answer that with a high degree of (hopefully not misplaced) confidence: it's the same reason the fandom continues to harbor such withering disdain for Catherine Pulaski. Basically, first impressions matter more than almost anything else. Pulaski was mean to Data in her first scene, so it doesn't matter that she immediately apologizes, corrects her behavior going forward, and becomes a better friend to Data than anyone else on the ship--she was introduced as a "bitch," and that's all she'll ever be to a remarkably large segment of the fandom. (Well, let's not pretend that there's not already a healthy amount of misogyny at play there, but I don't think it's accurate to say the hate for Pulaski is entirely motivated by bigotry.)So then look at how Broken Bow got off on the wrong foot by immediately irritating fans, who were already against the show from before it had even aired: they didn't want a prequel (for very valid reasons that have only become more relevant with time); they felt that dropping the "Star Trek" name and calling the show "Enterprise" (and I don't know if this was ever actually planned or just rumored) demonstrate a sense of shame/self-hatred for the brand; the "Akiraprise" NX-class was very off-putting, doubly so with the revelation (not sure when it came out, but it wasn't kept secret for long) that the producers originally wanted to NX-class to be an actual Akira-class starship from First Contact -- indicating a total disregard for continuity and consistency. And then Broken Bow airs. And it's... it's an okay story in isolation, but filled with little details that seemed specifically engineered to annoy fans. First, they ditched the traditional orchestral score for the opening and used a lyrical one, which is still a meme among older fans for being bad / embarrassing / cringe / whatever. Then there's the technology... which is exactly the same as in the TNG shows, sometimes with a noun slightly changed. It's supposed to be a more primitive era, but they've still got transporters, replicatorsprotein resequenders, shieldspolarized hull plating, photonphotonic torpedoes, and phasersphase cannons. (The same issue that nuTrek suffers from: in both cases it's clear that the writers either only want to write TNG-era Trek, or only know how to write TNG-era Trek, but are stuck in the past because the money men are infatuated with Kirk and Spock like it's still the 80s.) And then there's the plot, which also seems to disregard the "sanctified" canon (where the first contact with the Klingon Empire was supposed to have been "disasterous" to a feel-good happy ending where Archer gets a standing ovation from the Klingon High Council. But also, while we're listing things certain "fans" are still irrationally angry about... Jolene Blalock. She was too sexy! That's basically it. That's the point. Nevermind that T'Pol became one of, if not the, best characters on the show... that awkward scene where she and Archer rubbed lube all over each other while in their underwear was derided as cheap titillation catering to the lowest common denominator. Those same abhorrent not-nerds that CBS/Paramount was trying to cater to already by ditching the "Star Trek" name and orchestral opening. I can't even begin to count the number of times I've seen fans talk about Enterprise say that they wanted to, "give the show a chance," but didn't even make it to the end of the pilot because they stopped watching after that decontamination scene. And for the viewers who kept watching -- and this was back in the dark agesgolden age of TV where everyone had to wait a full week between each episode -- weren't exactly rewarded. That first season had some high points, but not many, and not very high, and many low points. So people stopped watching. My understanding is that... Manny Coto, I think, managed to (pretty impressively) turn-around the declining viewership ratings in S4, and by then Enterprise was actually performing fairly well, and likely could have improved far more if it had been given the chance. But in the minds of the execs, the series was a failure after those first two seasons, and they weren't inclined to keep funding it. .... So, yeah. Sorry for the essay. The long and short of it is that Enterprise was a pretty great show, but shot itself in the foot right out of the gate and never really recovered. Some fans were able to forgive it for that, thanks in large part to the shift to more continuity-heavy, semi-serial storytelling in the first arc... but not enough to change the minds of the people in charge. In a lot of the analyses you'll see fans write up, they point to the convoluted temporal Cold War arc, or Archer's character (or lack thereof) as reasons for Enterprise's failure, but when you see fans discussing it -- casually -- most of what they vent about tends to be from the first season, and almost all of that from the first episode. Which is the exact same thing you see when fans discuss Pulaski -- just that first scene. First impressions are everything.Don’t apologise for the essay, Kestrel. I’ll keep an eye out for the novels because I’ve really enjoyed this iteration of the show and it’s interpretation of the history. I really liked how for the first two seasons it was just titled Enterprise. It makes perfect sense in a storytelling way because it’s just some folks faffing around in a spaceship rather than going on missions and such. Also… how surprising that fans were upset by a girl. Colour me amazed. But that change to the titles and the various things that were altered show that the producers are ok with taking criticism on board and listening to what people and don’t like. Like that moment in Season 2 of Discovery where they retcon a big fan outcry with the single line, “So the Klingons are growing their hair back now, are they?” Just a simple explanation. I thought the Klingons did look weird in Discovery but I’m old enough to remember how they suddenly appeared in the 80s with forehead ridges without any explanation as well, so it didn’t bother me that much.
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Post by fitzoliverj on Sept 16, 2022 18:12:12 GMT
Is there much lawyering in She-Hulk? I kinda wanna watch it, but I'm afraid it'll be like Daredevil, where they briefly tease some interesting legal drama and then spend all their time in dark, industrial sets with overchoreographed fistfights. .... @ shutupbanks You may want to give some of the post-series novels a try. They can be a bit YMMV (as such things tend to be) but I found them pretty enjoyable. There aren't many--just the Romulan War duology (which isn't so great) and a handful of "Rise of the Federation" novels, which are better. They're a bit more political and build off of Archer's role in S4 as he's now an admiral in the newly-formed Starfleet trying to hold everything together.
There's almost no lawyering in She-Hulk, and absolutely no 'dark, industrial sets with overchoreographed fistfights' so far. It's a sitcom, not a drama - I suggest you watch episode 2 (forget ep 1), it'll just cost you half an hour, and then you can decide whether it's worth it. I find it a frustrating show, every episode is just too short. I know streaming services have decided they don't like bingewatching anymore, but this really ought to have come out all in one go. I like Wong as much as the next man, but it's excruciating waiting for Leapfrog Daredevil.
I also agree that the Enterprise novels are worth reading. Start with the one that fixes the series end (is it "The Evil That Men Do?"). I'd like to suggest, though, that the reason T'Pol isn't popular is because she - and most of the Vulcans in that series - were pretty emotional. Even her mother, who complained T'Pol was too emotional. Compare them to Leonard Nimoy's performance in TOS and you wouldn't even think they were trying.
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Post by shutupbanks on Sept 17, 2022 1:16:22 GMT
Is there much lawyering in She-Hulk? I kinda wanna watch it, but I'm afraid it'll be like Daredevil, where they briefly tease some interesting legal drama and then spend all their time in dark, industrial sets with overchoreographed fistfights. .... @ shutupbanks You may want to give some of the post-series novels a try. They can be a bit YMMV (as such things tend to be) but I found them pretty enjoyable. There aren't many--just the Romulan War duology (which isn't so great) and a handful of "Rise of the Federation" novels, which are better. They're a bit more political and build off of Archer's role in S4 as he's now an admiral in the newly-formed Starfleet trying to hold everything together.
There's almost no lawyering in She-Hulk, and absolutely no 'dark, industrial sets with overchoreographed fistfights' so far. It's a sitcom, not a drama - I suggest you watch episode 2 (forget ep 1), it'll just cost you half an hour, and then you can decide whether it's worth it. I find it a frustrating show, every episode is just too short. I know streaming services have decided they don't like bingewatching anymore, but this really ought to have come out all in one go. I like Wong as much as the next man, but it's excruciating waiting for Leapfrog Daredevil.
I also agree that the Enterprise novels are worth reading. Start with the one that fixes the series end (is it "The Evil That Men Do?"). I'd like to suggest, though, that the reason T'Pol isn't popular is because she - and most of the Vulcans in that series - were pretty emotional. Even her mother, who complained T'Pol was too emotional. Compare them to Leonard Nimoy's performance in TOS and you wouldn't even think they were trying.
The humans kept behaving in illogical ways and pandering to their emotions and wants, is why I always thought the Vulcans were so snooty 🤣 T’Pol says on more than one occasion that she finds the noises and smells on board Enterprise to be overpowering, but after her addiction problems in Season 3 she comes over as far more sympathetic and understanding of humans. Interestingly, Gary Graham, who played Soval, said that once he understood that the Vulcans were a mess of emotions but refused to give into them, it became much easier for him to play the part. Spock, on the other hand, is the classic example of over-compensating for what you perceive as a flaw or a problem (in his case, his human half) to display the “perfection” of the heritage he was raised in. Spock is only half-vulcan, and he is reminded of that whenever he is around either species.
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Post by timleschild on Sept 17, 2022 10:02:26 GMT
She-Hulk episode 5, love it!
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Post by timleschild on Sept 17, 2022 10:05:34 GMT
She Hulk S01E05. They still can't quite get the CGI right..Oh well.. Or script, characters etc, my niece was watching ep5 to try and wind me up I said you want to waste 30mins of your life on crap go ahead but I'tm not. & yet you are still commenting on it? I seem to recall you say this Oh well it cannot be for everyone but I wish more people would take this approach with show they don't like rather than continue to hate watch & post nasty comments. Yup I agree but sadly we live in a society of trolls and haters who get a kick out of texting toxicity. All one has to do is switch off change to another channels, if people enjoy it cool it's just not my LOTR I gave it a chance didn't like it so switched off.
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Post by Kestrel on Sept 17, 2022 14:31:22 GMT
I have to keep kicking myself to remember that Galadriel is supposed to be the protagonist of Rings of Power, because hers is consistently the weakest storyline in this infuriating mess of a show.
That's right, it's time to discuss episodes 3 and 4. Don't worry, I promise (this one time) I'll be brief.
Earlier, I refrained from commenting on Rings of Power when it borrowed a major plot point from, of all places, Diablo III. But now they're cribbing from South Park and I feel like someone needs to sit these writers down in a quiet room for several hours' worth of lecturing. The Numenoreans have decided to completely upend their society for generations and develop -- or for Middle-Earth, rather, invent -- a deep-simmering racism out of... fear elves will steal their jobs? All I can do is cradle my head in my hands at this point. Earlier I commented on the poor writing, evident in the dialog. But these new lows make the preceding scripts look immaculately conceived. Good lord.
But at least Numenor looks really, really good! It's a cool place. Lovely to see on-screen, even broader and more expansive than my meager imagination could render from The Silmarillion's dry prose. Not sure what the point is of giving Galadriel and Miriel foreknowledge of Numenor's fall, but at least that last scene -- the very last scene -- finally got the plot moving. And it only took four episodes!
I mean, really. We could've had Galadriel return to the King, have him refuse to keep funding her search and send her friends off to Valinor (as she watches) and then travel herself to Numenor to solicit their aid -- all in the first episode. This is not a lot of movement! I return, inevitably, to the metaphor of treading water.
A metaphor made literal for the second time! As, in another meandering plot that has barely begun to form, we get a little boy stuck treading water at the bottom of a well in a town infested by orcs. How's he gonna get out of that slippery predicament? Easily: the camera will just cut to him having escaped. Neat.
This show is such a mess. At least the Dwarfs are fun.
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Post by grinch on Sept 17, 2022 20:48:37 GMT
Professor T (Series 2, Episode 1)
Thought this was a very good start to the new series. However, considering there has been little to no promotion for it I won’t be surprised if it doesn’t get renewed for a third series.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Sept 17, 2022 22:35:12 GMT
The Sandman episode 8.. Slowly getting there. Amazing how Season 2 hasn't been publicly announced yet. Read a couple news articles stating the show is very expensive to produce.. Still..
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