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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2016 0:46:16 GMT
Hey everyone,
Would you listen to a Michael Craze or Jemma Powell led Companion Chronicle? I can understand that some listeners might not be happy with these actors leading and accept such performances in The Early Adventures (with the acknowledgement of the third wall), but might be put off by a more intimate presentation of their characters.
For me, both Elliot Chapman and Jemma Powell capture their characters and the actors performances wonderfully, without going for a direct impression. And with no disrespect to Ben fans, I'm particular for a Babara Companion Chronicle and an indepth look at her relationships with the rest of the TARDIS crew, as being a woman of her time and how she deals with seeing the future as a lover of history. |
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Nov 30, 2016 1:02:13 GMT
Yes.
They've proven themselves to be able to inhabit their characters well enough to infuse life into them. We've had years of Ian's side of the romance, now it's Barbaras.
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Post by elkawho on Nov 30, 2016 2:13:32 GMT
michaelhocking, don't you mean Elliot Chapman.  I had a chuckle when I read it. I would love a CC with Elliot Chapman as Ben. He's one of those companions that I know so little about. With Michael Craze dying as young as he did and most of his episodes being lost, I would love to hear a CC to get to know him better. As for a Barbara CC with Jemma Powell, I'm not as sure. So far, her portrayal of Barbara hasn't grabbed me as I would like.
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Post by jasonward on Nov 30, 2016 2:21:25 GMT
Yes I'd listen.
Although it renders part of the reason for CC's existing mute, since if your recasting then companions whose Doctor is not available do not need a special vechicle.
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Post by Zagreus on Nov 30, 2016 3:13:13 GMT
Of course I'd listen. As long as they keep the quality up.  |
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Post by bobod on Nov 30, 2016 9:21:07 GMT
For me, it would need to be the case that the guest voice was an original companion - If Elliot were doing one then it should have Anneke in it as Polly as the other voice. Having said that, I'd be fully up for a Short Trip or two read by him.
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Post by bobod on Nov 30, 2016 9:22:39 GMT
(with the acknowledgement of the third wall) A *third* wall??
I know the original series had a low budget and sometimes the walls wobble, but I'm sure they could afford more than two walls.
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Post by omega on Nov 30, 2016 9:42:09 GMT
(with the acknowledgement of the third wall) A *third* wall??
I know the original series had a low budget and sometimes the walls wobbles, but I'm sure they could afford more than two walls.
The walls didn't wobble nearly as often as we make them out to be. I've seen a lot of the classic series and only spotted on serious wobbly wall in Seeds of Doom. |
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Post by bobod on Nov 30, 2016 9:44:01 GMT
A *third* wall??
I know the original series had a low budget and sometimes the walls wobble, but I'm sure they could afford more than two walls.
The walls didn't wobble nearly as often as we make them out to be. I've seen a lot of the classic series and only spotted on serious wobbly wall in Seeds of Doom. I was only doing a funny. Lets not kill the joke. |
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Post by omega on Nov 30, 2016 9:59:11 GMT
The walls didn't wobble nearly as often as we make them out to be. I've seen a lot of the classic series and only spotted on serious wobbly wall in Seeds of Doom. I was only doing a funny. Lets not kill the joke. Ow, I've twisted my ankle! I'm in love with this character I've only just met, see you Doctor! Reverse of polarity of the neutron flow. |
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Post by bobod on Nov 30, 2016 10:12:18 GMT
um...ok...
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Post by aztec on Nov 30, 2016 10:36:39 GMT
Hmmm...I have no idea, as I've only listened to a couple of CC's and as of yet have no exposure to any of the recasts, but my thoughts are mixed on the one hand A) If the actors in question can capture the voice and/or spirit of the actors decently and it's a good story, then part of me is inclined to say sure, why not? B) But on the other hand you should never make a story just because you can, and I'm generally opposed to recasting (I'd have personally preferred BF to work around characters absence for as long as possible, i.e 3rd Dr CC's or Short trips over recasts personally) I can never quite get over the absence of the original actors, and a hybrid of the new and old casts would only reinforce this, BF have only recast 3(?) characters so far, but what if they continue to do so, how would people feel if in say 30 years (if they were still operating and making stories-let's hope so!) a Doctor or companion is recast and ends up with more stories than the original actor? Would it be honoring or replacing their legacy? Would it give the impression that the character, rather than the actor matters?
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Post by elkawho on Nov 30, 2016 11:53:51 GMT
Hmmm...I have no idea, as I've only listened to a couple of CC's and as of yet have no exposure to any of the recasts, but my thoughts are mixed on the one hand A) If the actors in question can capture the voice and/or spirit of the actors decently and it's a good story, then part of me is inclined to say sure, why not? B) But on the other hand you should never make a story just because you can, and I'm generally opposed to recasting (I'd have personally preferred BF to work around characters absence for as long as possible, i.e 3rd Dr CC's or Short trips over recasts personally) I can never quite get over the absence of the original actors, and a hybrid of the new and old casts would only reinforce this, BF have only recast 3(?) characters so far, but what if they continue to do so, how would people feel if in say 30 years (if they were still operating and making stories-let's hope so!) a Doctor or companion is recast and ends up with more stories than the original actor? Would it be honoring or replacing their legacy? Would it give the impression that the character, rather than the actor matters? Having heard the recasts, I personally feel that BF have been honoring the original actors' legacies. So far both Tim Treloar and Elliot Chapman have done wonderful jobs, capturing the essence of the characters. As I've said before, Jemma Powell's Barbara hasn't worked as well for me so far. And it seems Chapman has surpassed the number of stories that Craze did on TV in terms of what he has already recorded. I personally don't have a problem with it. I know that some people do, and I respect that immensely. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2016 17:08:41 GMT
A *third* wall??
I know the original series had a low budget and sometimes the walls wobbles, but I'm sure they could afford more than two walls.
The walls didn't wobble nearly as often as we make them out to be. I've seen a lot of the classic series and only spotted on serious wobbly wall in Seeds of Doom. You're not watching closely enough. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2016 17:52:37 GMT
I don't see the point of recast Companion Chronicles, it would make more sense to use the Short Trips range for those types of story.
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Post by dastari on Nov 30, 2016 18:29:17 GMT
As others have said, I'm not really keen on Powell doing one because her Barbara isn't really that good. However, Chapman has sold me as Ben, and I wouldn't mind a Ben CC by him.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Nov 30, 2016 19:58:28 GMT
I don't see the point of recast Companion Chronicles, it would make more sense to use the Short Trips range for those types of story. I don't see the point of them either but I feel like if BF is going to recast, then go all the way and do full cast audios with everyone. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2016 23:30:32 GMT
michaelhocking , don't you mean Elliot Chapman. I had a chuckle when I read it. I would love a CC with Elliot Chapman as Ben. He's one of those companions that I know so little about. With Michael Craze dying as young as he did and most of his episodes being lost, I would love to hear a CC to get to know him better. As for a Barbara CC with Jemma Powell, I'm not as sure. So far, her portrayal of Barbara hasn't grabbed me as I would like.
Whoops, thanks
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Post by dastari on Nov 30, 2016 23:38:09 GMT
I don't see the point of recast Companion Chronicles, it would make more sense to use the Short Trips range for those types of story. I don't see the point of them either but I feel like if BF is going to recast, then go all the way and do full cast audios with everyone. Here's the thing, A Companion Chronicle is a different kind of story than an EA or a full-cast story. I tried to point this out to Jason Haigh-Ellery last year. He seems to think that if you have EA's, 3DA's, 4DA's, and a main range that you don't need CC's. The thing is that CC's can tell a very personal kind of story that those other ranges don't, and they also can cover the companions' lives after they left the Doctor. Unfortunately, a lot of the later CC's muddied the waters by trying to be what I call EA light, where there basically isn't anything really companion-centric nor a framing sequence. It's just "oh, a companion narrates a story with two actors." This is why I also wasn't to thrilled with the 2nd Doctor CC set. Aside from The Story of Extinction, the other stories were in that EA light style. I don't think that the CC's really are necessary if they go that route, but it has nothing to do with the availability of actors. |
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Dec 1, 2016 0:44:33 GMT
I guess I have always looked at the Companion Chronicles as the way BF decided to tell stories with surviving companions where their Doctor was no longer with us or wasn't doing work for Big Finish. Once you start recasting the companions, I don't know, the range doesn't make as much sense to me. I get where you are coming from but I'd still just rather see them go full steam ahead on the recasts and do full cast productions.
And the EA range is one I've not really warmed to. It feels muddled somehow to me, like it doesn't know exactly what it is. Others mileage may vary.
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I had a chuckle when I read it.
