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Post by Ian McArdell on Dec 1, 2016 12:17:17 GMT
Yes I'd listen. Although it renders part of the reason for CC's existing mute, since if your recasting then companions whose Doctor is not available do not need a special vechicle. You're right, I suppose, although arguably we shouldn't be getting 4th - 8th Doctor CCs either, as the Doctor actors are available to BF - and yet I wouldn't be without them. I think the CCs, at their best, do offer that insight into the character that a full-cast story cannot provide and provide an opportunity for shorter stories too. For those reasons, I'd be happy to hear Elliot Chapman's take on Ben for a CC, or indeed Jemma Powell's Barbara. I wonder what others think about recasting... obviously BF haven't rushed with any, and IMHO have done a great job so far, but into how long is long enough to be decent/acceptable to the fans and the deceased actor's memory?
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Dec 1, 2016 19:49:56 GMT
Hey everyone,
Would you listen to a Michael Craze or Jemma Powell led Companion Chronicle? I can understand that some listeners might not be happy with these actors leading and accept such performances in The Early Adventures (with the acknowledgement of the third wall), but might be put off by a more intimate presentation of their characters.
For me, both Elliot Chapman and Jemma Powell capture their characters and the actors performances wonderfully, without going for a direct impression. And with no disrespect to Ben fans, I'm particular for a Babara Companion Chronicle and an indepth look at her relationships with the rest of the TARDIS crew, as being a woman of her time and how she deals with seeing the future as a lover of history. Yes I would.
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Dec 1, 2016 19:53:22 GMT
I also would like to see bf looking to recast 1 and 2. Unless Frazer wanted to do 2 because he's got it down amazingly
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2016 6:46:58 GMT
Yes I'd listen. Although it renders part of the reason for CC's existing mute, since if your recasting then companions whose Doctor is not available do not need a special vechicle. You're right, I suppose, although arguably we shouldn't be getting 4th - 8th Doctor CCs either, as the Doctor actors are available to BF - and yet I wouldn't be without them. I think the CCs, at their best, do offer that insight into the character that a full-cast story cannot provide and provide an opportunity for shorter stories too. For those reasons, I'd be happy to hear Elliot Chapman's take on Ben for a CC, or indeed Jemma Powell's Barbara. I wonder what others think about recasting... obviously BF haven't rushed with any, and IMHO have done a great job so far, but into how long is long enough to be decent/acceptable to the fans and the deceased actor's memory? A couple of years for me. The main thing is they would have to sound like the original. I'll start to lose interest if there's nobody in a release that either is an original actor or sounds just like one.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Dec 2, 2016 9:24:55 GMT
I also would like to see bf looking to recast 1 and 2. Unless Frazer wanted to do 2 because he's got it down amazingly I think both Fraser and Peter do great jobs as the Doctor, but Id be okay with a recasting of the first Doctor.
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Post by elkawho on Dec 2, 2016 13:08:11 GMT
I'd be ok with recasts, as well. I think Chris Thomson does a remarkable job as the Second Doctor and I would actually love to hear him in a Big Finish audio.
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Post by constonks on Dec 2, 2016 14:17:43 GMT
Ben yes, Barbara no for now. Jemma isn't quite there yet, I think. But I'm sure she'll improve over time.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2016 15:25:03 GMT
The subject of recasting is the stickiest issue concerning Big Finish for me, and I'm not sure how I feel about it.
I don't like the idea of it. The idea of the first three Doctors played by other people defeats the entire point of audios featuring those characters. Likewise with Barbara or Ben, or any of the others no longer with us.
Yet, in practice, it has proven not to undermine my enjoyment of the stories in question ... at all! I love Tim's Third Doctor and, whilst not so completely sold on early comnpanion recastings, we still have the original Ian (I hope), Steven, Susan, Vicki and Polly to bolster things and allow for virtually a full cast drama.
I think as long as we retain a mix of originals with the recasts, then we'll be fine. CCs are usually a double-hander at least, so such a mix is still possible. That would be my preference.
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Post by marie1964 on Dec 3, 2016 22:17:57 GMT
Breaking away from First and Second Doctor, I'd be curious to hear a Harry Sullivan/Sarah Jane Smith story.
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Post by Ian McArdell on Dec 4, 2016 7:07:30 GMT
Me too, but i guess the only hope for that at the moment is a subscriber short trip read by a thrid party, like Stephen Critchlow (who does a fine job IMHO).
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Post by fingersmash on Dec 4, 2016 16:04:12 GMT
i would listen because I enjoy getting into a companion's psyche. If a Ben CC means I get to listen to Ben reflecting on a moment, then I will buy it so fast that my bank account won't even realize what happened.
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Post by barnabaslives on Dec 4, 2016 16:16:32 GMT
I wouldn't be opposed to Elliot or Jemma doing Companion Chronicles (especially if that meant the range was returning to how it used to operate), or maybe more plausibly Short Trips (if Jemma hasn't really nailed Barbara's character yet, maybe it would be a good excercise?) I'm perfectly fine with the current casting of the First and Second Doctors also (I have a slight preference lately for Peter Purves' First Doctor because I think his sounds a bit more authentically reedy to me, although William Russell's First Doctor is also excellent). Anyone else I'd probably approach on sort of a probationary basis, maybe other recastings of Doctors if required could be tried out in the Short Trips to see how they go before signing up the recasts for a full season of Early Adventures or whatever?
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Post by lenyjr on Dec 7, 2016 4:40:01 GMT
My general rule for the recasts is that I don't have an issue with them recasting anyone who never got the chance to work with Big Finish and to this point, they haven't. I agree with most posters that in general the recasts have been done pretty well. I don't really count William, Peter and Frasier doing their Doctors as recasts and don't mind them continuing to do their roles.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2016 19:06:07 GMT
Chapman, yes. I'm not much of a fan of recasts in general, but he's done Michael Craze's Ben proud. If they are going to go the recast route, you can't ask for much more than that.
Powell, no. Because to me she is a perfect example of what you risk getting when a recast goes wrong, and to me she doesn't convince me a bit that she is Barbara Wright at any point in the two stories I've heard her in so far. That's not to say that she's a bad actress, just that she's not, in any way, convincing as the character of Barbara as I know and remember her. And as a result I find her inclusion so far both a detriment and a distraction in the two stories I have heard her in so far. So much so, in fact, that I'll honestly have to think twice before buying anything else she plays Barbara in (and I buy just about everything). I'm not trying to be mean or nasty by saying any of this, just being honest.
Recasts are a tricky thing that personally brings up mixed and complex thoughts as far as I'm concerned. But as much as I generally don't like the idea of them, and am personally fine with certain characters just being 'of their time', and also being fine with the respectful and clever ways that Big Finish have written around and featured such characters in the past, I also try to keep an open mind when they do recast, and give them, and the chosen performers, a chance to prove themselves. And mostly, so far it's worked out.
That said, ultimately I'm in this for the original cast members and the recreations of the various eras, and so once those original players are all gone from any range or era, I suspect that will be it for me, too. And while I understand that Big Finish will likely feel the need to keep recasting more and more roles as time goes on, the more they do, and the less originals we have, the less appeal there will be for me to revisit these eras for new adventures. Instead I suspect I'll just be content with the gift of all the new ones we already got from the original stars, and leave it at that. Meanwhile those without that hang up can freely go about their merry way with whatever full recast productions see the light of day.
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Post by Ela on Dec 19, 2016 6:18:46 GMT
I'd listen to recasts if they are well-done. Why not? If it's a good story, it's worth listening to.
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