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Post by ulyssessarcher on Dec 24, 2016 10:39:54 GMT
Whatever your opinions of the books are(ie. good or bad), they are classics, and the first story arc in the continued existence of doctor who, without the novels, then there is no doctor who back on tv today, and that is a fact.
They are truly a huge part of the history of this show, if not for the virgin novels, there is no bf license, because no one would care anymore. I would love for bf to adapt the Timewyrm books, if they were done right. I really enjoyed genesis, and exodus, and everyone of the stories were good enough to keep me reading.
Of coarse, IMO, I vote for everyone of the virgin novels to be adapted.
And now I have to thank all of you, because I have to reread timewyrm, for at least the 4th time, like I didn't have nothing better to do this weekend.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Dec 27, 2016 14:50:54 GMT
Myself, i think I'd take elements of the Arc and make possibly a new story around them.
But thats just me lol
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2016 16:26:19 GMT
Myself, i think I'd take elements of the Arc and make possibly a new story around them. But thats just me lol I'm with you. There's the core of a great story there as, perhaps, a four disc box set. Each novel would have to be gutted, which the original authors probably wouldn't approve of, but I think the story could be better for it.
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Post by dastari on Dec 28, 2016 18:19:31 GMT
I don't think so. Genesys and Exodus aren't that good and Revelation would be tricky to pull off since it's a very deep book. Interesting, I think that Exodus is one of the best NA's ever along with Revelation. I also think Genesys is fairly good. Some things would need to be changed in adaptation and it's unlikely that BF would get Brian Blessed to play Gilgamesh who's really the only character who could do the role justice, but I think it'd be worth doing. Apocalypse is the only one that I don't think was that good, but I'd still like to see what BF could do with it. That being said, I think that the reason that BF aren't doing any more novel adaptations is that the company that produces BBC books has also bought Virgin, putting all the Who books under one banner. It looks like they're releasing audio readings of some of the Virgin books, and they've probably kindly asked BF to stop doing their adaptations, since they probably view it as competition with their own line.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2016 18:22:41 GMT
I don't think so. Genesys and Exodus aren't that good and Revelation would be tricky to pull off since it's a very deep book. Interesting, I think that Exodus is one of the best NA's ever along with Revelation. I also think Genesys is fairly good. Some things would need to be changed in adaptation and it's unlikely that BF would get Brian Blessed to play Gilgamesh who's really the only character who could do the role justice, but I think it'd be worth doing. Apocalypse is the only one that I don't think was that good, but I'd still like to see what BF could do with it. That being said, I think that the reason that BF aren't doing any more novel adaptations is that the company that produces BBC books has also bought Virgin, putting all the Who books under one banner. It looks like they're releasing audio readings of some of the Virgin books, and they've probably kindly asked BF to stop doing their adaptations, since they probably view it as competition with their own line. That actually sounds very exciting. Do you have any more info?
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Dec 28, 2016 22:29:50 GMT
Interesting, I think that Exodus is one of the best NA's ever along with Revelation. I also think Genesys is fairly good. Some things would need to be changed in adaptation and it's unlikely that BF would get Brian Blessed to play Gilgamesh who's really the only character who could do the role justice, but I think it'd be worth doing. Apocalypse is the only one that I don't think was that good, but I'd still like to see what BF could do with it. That being said, I think that the reason that BF aren't doing any more novel adaptations is that the company that produces BBC books has also bought Virgin, putting all the Who books under one banner. It looks like they're releasing audio readings of some of the Virgin books, and they've probably kindly asked BF to stop doing their adaptations, since they probably view it as competition with their own line. That actually sounds very exciting. Do you have any more info? I'm with you. I'd love unabridged virgin audio books.
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Post by omega on Dec 28, 2016 23:18:11 GMT
I don't think so. Genesys and Exodus aren't that good and Revelation would be tricky to pull off since it's a very deep book. Interesting, I think that Exodus is one of the best NA's ever along with Revelation. I also think Genesys is fairly good. Some things would need to be changed in adaptation and it's unlikely that BF would get Brian Blessed to play Gilgamesh who's really the only character who could do the role justice, but I think it'd be worth doing. Apocalypse is the only one that I don't think was that good, but I'd still like to see what BF could do with it. That being said, I think that the reason that BF aren't doing any more novel adaptations is that the company that produces BBC books has also bought Virgin, putting all the Who books under one banner. It looks like they're releasing audio readings of some of the Virgin books, and they've probably kindly asked BF to stop doing their adaptations, since they probably view it as competition with their own line. Sorry, I meant Apocalypse, the Nigel Robinson. Exodus is a great book but any adaptation would need be handled sensitively as there are an awful lot of Nazis.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2016 0:25:33 GMT
Interesting, I think that Exodus is one of the best NA's ever along with Revelation. I also think Genesys is fairly good. Some things would need to be changed in adaptation and it's unlikely that BF would get Brian Blessed to play Gilgamesh who's really the only character who could do the role justice, but I think it'd be worth doing. Apocalypse is the only one that I don't think was that good, but I'd still like to see what BF could do with it. That being said, I think that the reason that BF aren't doing any more novel adaptations is that the company that produces BBC books has also bought Virgin, putting all the Who books under one banner. It looks like they're releasing audio readings of some of the Virgin books, and they've probably kindly asked BF to stop doing their adaptations, since they probably view it as competition with their own line. Sorry, I meant Apocalypse, the Nigel Robinson. Exodus is a great book but any adaptation would need be handled sensitively as there are an awful lot of Nazis. I'm sure there'd be ways around it. Colditz had the character of Herr Schäfer, the German Nazi who sympathised with the prisoners and balanced out the cowardly, bullying Kurtz. Maybe something similar could be applied to Exodus? As long as we get as far away as possible from the comedy Nazis of Let's Kill Hitler, it should be fine. It wouldn't be quite as hard as another adaptation of Just War though. Not because of the plot, but because Lisa Bowerman is really, really good at showing Benny in pain and a large part of the book is her being tortured by Schmitt. It'll take a certain serious courage for some people to sit through The Draconian Rage again.
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Post by dastari on Dec 29, 2016 6:11:15 GMT
Interesting, I think that Exodus is one of the best NA's ever along with Revelation. I also think Genesys is fairly good. Some things would need to be changed in adaptation and it's unlikely that BF would get Brian Blessed to play Gilgamesh who's really the only character who could do the role justice, but I think it'd be worth doing. Apocalypse is the only one that I don't think was that good, but I'd still like to see what BF could do with it. That being said, I think that the reason that BF aren't doing any more novel adaptations is that the company that produces BBC books has also bought Virgin, putting all the Who books under one banner. It looks like they're releasing audio readings of some of the Virgin books, and they've probably kindly asked BF to stop doing their adaptations, since they probably view it as competition with their own line. That actually sounds very exciting. Do you have any more info? Sorry that I don't have more info, but here's a link to the audiobook for The Scales of Injustice. linkI don't keep up with this much, since I have all the MA/NA/PDA/EDA's, so I don't need an audiobook for any of them. If I were to buy anything it'd be an adaptation because then at least there are changes and the performance adds a little something. However, it was David J Howe's The Target Book that told me that the Virgin books are now owned by the same publisher that has the license for the BBC books now. That got me to thinking that they probably see BF's novel adaptations as competition for their audiobooks, which would explain why BF isn't going to do any more. They probably don't want to rock the boat with their BBC license by getting into a fight with another license holder.
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Post by aztec on Dec 29, 2016 21:20:54 GMT
That actually sounds very exciting. Do you have any more info? Sorry that I don't have more info, but here's a link to the audiobook for The Scales of Injustice. linkI don't keep up with this much, since I have all the MA/NA/PDA/EDA's, so I don't need an audiobook for any of them. If I were to buy anything it'd be an adaptation because then at least there are changes and the performance adds a little something. However, it was David J Howe's The Target Book that told me that the Virgin books are now owned by the same publisher that has the license for the BBC books now. That got me to thinking that they probably see BF's novel adaptations as competition for their audiobooks, which would explain why BF isn't going to do any more. They probably don't want to rock the boat with their BBC license by getting into a fight with another license holder. Personally, if given the choice I'd choose an audio adaptation over audiobook any day, not only is it cheaper, you have the benefit and attraction of the actual actors interacting and giving life to the story rather than someone simply reading/narrating the story, I've heard some great audiobooks but often I find the voices distracting and I'm a relatively quick reader so I could probably finish the book before the audio. Most of the Wilderness years novels are going on for 20 years old and you can pick most up very cheaply second hand, not completely sure there would be a huge market for audiobooks for these titles, those who already own the stories are unlikely to buy them again and those who are curious can just get a copy of the book, but an adaptation with the actual cast members (and new characters for those who haven't read the book) brings all the nostalgia of reading the book with the excitement/worry about waiting to find out the changes. I swear Nick Briggs mentioned in a podcast or Vortex last year that BBC Audio were considering doing audiobooks of the EDA's as well, I'm a huge fan of the EDA's but I'd have little interest in straight audio readings of them (especially as McGann probably wouldn't be involved) but I'd certainly buy any hypothetical adaptions (well, most of them...though thanks to Earthy Child we wouldn't have to worry about Legacy of The Daleks)... Call me old fashioned, but I prefer to enjoy books as they were first intended-physical paperbacks or hardbacks.
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