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Post by Ela on Jan 6, 2017 21:02:14 GMT
Good point about not being able to watch video behind the scenes while driving. I generally listen while driving, too, so...
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Jan 6, 2017 21:06:19 GMT
I'm glad you are one of the very few left who doesn't watch tv while driving...I see truck drivers watching tv while driving nowadays, I wonder how those texting and playing with their phones would feel if they knew how many truck drivers were texting also, bet they would have a cow, even though they do the exact same thing...
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 7, 2017 9:27:09 GMT
I enjoy the Big Finish releases, but the only thing I don't like as much is the behind the scenes disc. I still listen to it but it seems a bit redundant to me on audio. I think Big Finish should make the behind the scenes disc a DVD instead - it would be much more interesting IMO if you could actually see the actors in the recording booths. dalekbuster, I love you so don't take this wrong. HELL NO HELL NO HELL NO HELL NO HELL NO HELL NO HELL NO and in case you didn't hear me yelling HELL NO! I cant watch a dvd driving down the road, even though most people today do watch their phones with yelp and face chat and texting, when those folks die horribly I just hope they don't take out anyone else, oh, off topic again... No dvd's unless BF wants to produce them separately and give them away for free or as downloads or something, but keep them out of my cd's. Technically you could watch a DVD whilst driving if you placed the portable DVD player in front of the steering wheel or on the dashboard.
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Post by omega on Jan 7, 2017 9:44:01 GMT
dalekbuster, I love you so don't take this wrong. HELL NO HELL NO HELL NO HELL NO HELL NO HELL NO HELL NO and in case you didn't hear me yelling HELL NO! I cant watch a dvd driving down the road, even though most people today do watch their phones with yelp and face chat and texting, when those folks die horribly I just hope they don't take out anyone else, oh, off topic again... No dvd's unless BF wants to produce them separately and give them away for free or as downloads or something, but keep them out of my cd's. Technically you could watch a DVD whilst driving if you placed the portable DVD player in front of the steering wheel or on the dashboard. Practically, you should keep your eyes on the road. That's a nice top David Richardson is wea- CRASH!
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 7, 2017 9:46:20 GMT
Technically you could watch a DVD whilst driving if you placed the portable DVD player in front of the steering wheel or on the dashboard. Practically, you should keep your eyes on the road. That's a nice top David Richardson is wea- CRASH! I'm sure the police would understand if you said you were trying to watch a Big Finish documentary.
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Post by omega on Jan 7, 2017 9:57:39 GMT
Practically, you should keep your eyes on the road. That's a nice top David Richardson is wea- CRASH! I'm sure the police would understand if you said you were trying to watch a Big Finish documentary. It still raises a valid point. Many listeners play Big Finish releases in the car, while commuting or traveling for other reasons. While video behind the scene documentaries have a certain appeal, I doubt there would be any law enforcement officer willing to accept that as a reasonable excuse for being distracted on the road.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2017 10:16:40 GMT
For what it's worth, there are plenty of videos showing the production process in studio on the Big Finish YouTube channel for various ranges. However, these are typically a maximum of five minutes long - partly due to the fact editing video content is a great deal more time-consuming.
Also, having had a camera team in studio for various projects, it eats up a LOT more time than you might imagine. Interviews require lighting. It's a lot harder to capture good backstage actuality, either due to limitations of good camera angles, or how long it takes to set up the equipment (as opposed to simply switching on a microphone and recording takes in full duration, etc, then cherrypicking the more interesting elements in the edit).
From a producer/director point-of-view, accommodating a crew (even if it's just one/two people) detracts from the time you have available for actual recording, so pressure is then put on the schedule, etc, to ensure actors are available for interview, etc. (That's if actors are willing to be interviewed on camera, rather than simply audio which - in fairness - is actually the job they'd signed up for).
At the end of the day, I'm not sure why you'd want to routinely introduce a more expensive form of behind the scenes material, a less comprehensive/more restricted form of actual content, and one which detracts from studio-time for recording the dramas themselves.
As I say, there are plenty of videos out there for those curious.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 7, 2017 11:35:30 GMT
For what it's worth, there are plenty of videos showing the production process in studio on the Big Finish YouTube channel for various ranges. However, these are typically a maximum of five minutes long - partly due to the fact editing video content is a great deal more time-consuming. Also, having had a camera team in studio for various projects, it eats up a LOT more time than you might imagine. Interviews require lighting. It's a lot harder to capture good backstage actuality, either due to limitations of good camera angles, or how long it takes to set up the equipment (as opposed to simply switching on a microphone and recording takes in full duration, etc, then cherrypicking the more interesting elements in the edit). From a producer/director point-of-view, accommodating a crew (even if it's just one/two people) detracts from the time you have available for actual recording, so pressure is then put on the schedule, etc, to ensure actors are available for interview, etc. (That's if actors are willing to be interviewed on camera, rather than simply audio which - in fairness - is actually the job they'd signed up for). At the end of the day, I'm not sure why you'd want to routinely introduce a more expensive form of behind the scenes material, a less comprehensive/more restricted form of actual content, and one which detracts from studio-time for recording the dramas themselves. As I say, there are plenty of videos out there for those curious. I respect that point of view from someone such as yourself who works for BF and knows the practicalities of shooting behind the scenes stuff alongside the audio recording. As someone who studies TV and Film Production (I know it may be a different medium to audio but I imagine there will still be some elements that will overlap), it has surprised me how long it takes to record something as simple as footsteps!
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Post by muckypup on Jan 7, 2017 12:47:34 GMT
Well this has been mentioned before, and the answer is no. The licence does not even permit them to do it for you tube/promo purposes. I don't think it would be worth them getting a licence, because it would cost too much for something that is not even a product for sale
The only way you would get it was for a non licensed title, like Sherlock Holmes but would you really be prepared to the extra costs involved.
For me I like the behind the scenes, but sometimes it's repetitive "love the lunches" "well written" & "thank you for the work", I would love more on the writing process, sound design & production.
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Post by muckypup on Jan 7, 2017 12:58:06 GMT
dalekbuster, I love you so don't take this wrong. HELL NO HELL NO HELL NO HELL NO HELL NO HELL NO HELL NO and in case you didn't hear me yelling HELL NO! I cant watch a dvd driving down the road, even though most people today do watch their phones with yelp and face chat and texting, when those folks die horribly I just hope they don't take out anyone else, oh, off topic again... No dvd's unless BF wants to produce them separately and give them away for free or as downloads or something, but keep them out of my cd's. Technically you could watch a DVD whilst driving if you placed the portable DVD player in front of the steering wheel or on the dashboard. Are you really that stupid to think that it's safe to even suggest that! Maybe you don't drive or have not even learnt to drive and don't really understand just how dangerous it would be. no offence meant but that really is monumentally stupid but maybe you meant it ironically in which case I apologise
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 7, 2017 13:26:38 GMT
Technically you could watch a DVD whilst driving if you placed the portable DVD player in front of the steering wheel or on the dashboard. Are you really that stupid to think that it's safe to even suggest that! Maybe you don't drive or have not even learnt to drive and don't really understand just how dangerous it would be. no offence meant but that really is monumentally stupid but maybe you meant it ironically in which case I apologise Yeah, I meant it in a more ironic 'Well, strictly speaking it is possible' sense.
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Post by aztec on Jan 7, 2017 13:43:31 GMT
I agree with the sentiments expressed by others in this thread, interesting idea, but very impracticable, I don't actually listen to behind the scenes interviews that often, they are interesting enough, but I'm usually more interested in the writing side of things rather than the actual recording process and often the interviews are focused on the actors rather than production team, though that's understandable given the busy schedules.
Though I've always been curious to see exactly what those legendary lunches comprise of..
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 7, 2017 18:31:48 GMT
I don't actually listen to behind the scenes interviews that often I only listen to them to get my value for money to be honest. I wouldn't miss them if they weren't included.
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Post by Bazoolium on Jan 7, 2017 19:13:30 GMT
A documentary DVD abut Big Finish would be great as a one off.
I don't listen very often as they very rarely talk about the actual polt or writing process. Did you know Big Finish do nice lunches?
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Post by mrperson on Jan 7, 2017 20:48:06 GMT
Wouldn't want them on DVD and most certainly wouldn't want to have to pay more per release because of them being on DVD.
I may tune into a con panel on youtube here and there, but I don't regularly listen to each post-episode interview. I rather liked the idea of getting rid of them entirely (or moving them all over to occasionally released download-only type things, if people want to listen) and using the time to write longer episodes.
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Post by coffeeaddict on Jan 7, 2017 20:56:38 GMT
No need for a DVD, but I really wish BF would rework the format. With few exceptions the extras are pretty boring - all the ones fro Doctor Who releases sound the same.
I liked the extras from the last two Avengers releases, those were interesting and engaging. Same with the extras included with The New Counter-Measures.
I know Nick isn't a fan of including outtakes, but even throwing in stuff they recorded but cut or alternate takes would help to make them more interesting.
My main request, and I understand why it isn't always possible, would be to hear more from the sound designer and more from the rest of the production team.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 7, 2017 21:18:05 GMT
No need for a DVD, but I really wish BF would rework the format. With few exceptions the extras are pretty boring - all the ones fro Doctor Who releases sound the same. I liked the extras from the last two Avengers releases, those were interesting and engaging. Same with the extras included with The New Counter-Measures. I know Nick isn't a fan of including outtakes, but even throwing in stuff they recorded but cut or alternate takes would help to make them more interesting. My main request, and I understand why it isn't always possible, would be to hear more from the sound designer and more from the rest of the production team. I think the box set behind the scenes could be reworked so they come in three/four fifteen minute segments at the end of each episode, rather than having the entire set discussed in one one hour chunk. It can get a little monotonous having all the episodes discussed together.
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Post by coffeeaddict on Jan 7, 2017 21:19:46 GMT
No need for a DVD, but I really wish BF would rework the format. With few exceptions the extras are pretty boring - all the ones fro Doctor Who releases sound the same. I liked the extras from the last two Avengers releases, those were interesting and engaging. Same with the extras included with The New Counter-Measures. I know Nick isn't a fan of including outtakes, but even throwing in stuff they recorded but cut or alternate takes would help to make them more interesting. My main request, and I understand why it isn't always possible, would be to hear more from the sound designer and more from the rest of the production team. I think the box set behind the scenes could be reworked so they come in three/four fifteen minute segments at the end of each episode, rather than having the entire set discussed in one one hour chunk. It can get a little monotonous having all the episodes discussed together. Some of them already do that.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 7, 2017 21:33:55 GMT
I think the box set behind the scenes could be reworked so they come in three/four fifteen minute segments at the end of each episode, rather than having the entire set discussed in one one hour chunk. It can get a little monotonous having all the episodes discussed together. Some of them already do that. Oh, okay. I wish they'd adopt that approach for all of them then.
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Post by barnabaslives on Jan 8, 2017 13:33:02 GMT
I love the behind the scenes segments, and I think it would be fantastic for there to be video of all of them, but I'm sure I don't see it being worth the extra effort and expense for Big Finish. It's probably also sort of late in the game for them to just be getting started since I already have lots of audios with no video. 'Tis a lovely thought, though.
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