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Post by aztec on Jan 11, 2017 16:47:13 GMT
Always thought Last Of The Gaderene would be good. I agree, a good bodysnatchers story The Bodynatchers is a great bodysnatching story and it featured Lightfoot.
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Post by aztec on Jan 11, 2017 16:52:30 GMT
I haven't read either of them, but I'd have been interested if the two Grant Markham stories were adapted, largely to hear how old Sixie would work with a male companion.
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Post by fitzoliverj on Jan 11, 2017 17:51:10 GMT
I haven't read either of them, but I'd have been interested if the two Grant Markham stories were adapted, largely to hear how old Sixie would work with a male companion. They're both rather grim and bleak stories, as I recall. Something more upbeat - a pairing of "Blood Harvest" and "Goth Opera", as suggested, might be a better bet (assuming that they could get the necessary cast members from "State of Decay"). "State of Change" might work (hey, they could even get the rights to "Shakedown" and adapt the other two parts of the book to go with the DVD!)
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Post by mark687 on Jan 11, 2017 18:35:21 GMT
My list would've been:
Sanctury
The Dark Path
Set Piece
Sky Pirates !
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2017 18:46:05 GMT
LUNGBARROW
That is all
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Post by aztec on Jan 11, 2017 18:52:43 GMT
The Dying Days, done E.A/CC style with some of the cast narrating the Brig's lines.
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Post by masolko on Jan 12, 2017 3:22:14 GMT
Co-signing on the suggestion for Bad Therapy. It would enhance much of what we've heard since.
I'd like to hear the Cartmel War Trilogy. Each story offers differing scenarios while continuing the thread of the background characters. Also, it would be neat in a box set or string of releases to see the different companion pairings as the story evolves.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2017 4:03:40 GMT
There's always one
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Post by dutchwhovian on Jan 12, 2017 13:38:33 GMT
I think its sad that Nick Briggs and the big finish team deside stop the novel adaptations due to the poor sale. The novels from the 90s where spacial because it was that era all the Classic doctor who fans write some of the most gripping fan ficton.
It was the Virgin New and Missing Adventure books that continue the Cartmell Masterplan after the classic series had cancelled. Cold Fusion and Lungbarrow where the most important books. Chris and Roz where a great addition. in the whole novel adaptation range.
But what about the EDA'and PDA's I mean the Eighth Doctor Adverture novels dominated all the book ranges with over 70 novels. Some of the stories are realy good, for example Alien Bodies The Turing Test Father Time (somthing intersting and different for Paul McGann to perform) Anachrophobia Tomorrow Windows
I've heard Company of Friends Fitz's Story in the main range. and I thought Matt di Angelo playing Fitz Kreiner was really good and a good male companion for the eighth doctor. So lets hope that the big finish team might return for more novel adaptations because it is a great era to explore.
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Post by dastari on Jan 12, 2017 18:33:12 GMT
I haven't read either of them, but I'd have been interested if the two Grant Markham stories were adapted, largely to hear how old Sixie would work with a male companion. I echo this one, mostly because I'd like for Grant to enter into the main range for Six Doctor stories along with Chris and Roz for seventh Doctor stories. Sadly, I'm part of the problem here. I love BF, but since I already have all of the novels these fell to the bottom of my priority list when there are so many titles that I want to collect.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2017 20:02:11 GMT
There's always one
Someone had to say it
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Post by mbt66 on Jan 13, 2017 21:30:57 GMT
I can understand Jonny Morris not being keen on adapting his own novel into an audio drama, but I do find it strange that the BBC haven't released The Festival of Death as an audiobook read by either Lalla Ward or John Leason. Perhaps they will do once they are finished with the Douglas Adams story novels...
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Post by sailorhaumea on Jan 14, 2017 0:57:08 GMT
A five or six-part adaptation of Venusian Lullaby with William Russell at the height of his powers would have been an incredible feat, I'd have loved to have seen it adapted with a deft touch by Marc Platt. The Witch Hunters by Steve Lyons is a stunning novel that makes you jump up in anger at the people in Salem for their cowardice, injustice, and cruelty. I can't imagine what it would have looked like as an audio drama, but I have a feeling it would have sat proudly alongside Son of the Dragon and The Council of Nicaea as seriously powerful historicals. If you got in the synthesisers and eighties-style effects, an adaptation of Players could have very much felt like a lost Season 22 story. I'd say ditto for Corpse Marker, but sadly Russell Hunter passed away shortly after Kaldor City concluded and without Uvanov the story kind of falls apart. It's a bit unconventional, but with the stories going however long they needed to, there may even have been space for something similar to the adapted preludes for Love and War wherein you could adapt short stories using the same cast or even bundle in a preexisting short trip. It would have been interesting to listen to Venusian Lullaby and have it follow up with The Nine Day Queen or The Book of Shadows. I agree on The Witch Hunters. By the end, there were some people leading the witch hunt that I wished had been killed, because their behavior was unacceptable on many levels, and their logic was full of holes. It's rare that a novel has been so good at creating a villain that I genuinely wish death on the character. It's also rare to see a hard historical novel - there's no alien threat. No one is interfering here. This is a story where the villains are just ordinary people. There's no one amplifying their hatred behind the scenes, no man behind the curtain. Incidentally, I'd like to see Lungbarrow or Campaign adapted. Mortimore has been pushing for someone to license it for a while. It's a story that's an experience like no other.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2017 1:29:39 GMT
A five or six-part adaptation of Venusian Lullaby with William Russell at the height of his powers would have been an incredible feat, I'd have loved to have seen it adapted with a deft touch by Marc Platt. The Witch Hunters by Steve Lyons is a stunning novel that makes you jump up in anger at the people in Salem for their cowardice, injustice, and cruelty. I can't imagine what it would have looked like as an audio drama, but I have a feeling it would have sat proudly alongside Son of the Dragon and The Council of Nicaea as seriously powerful historicals. If you got in the synthesisers and eighties-style effects, an adaptation of Players could have very much felt like a lost Season 22 story. I'd say ditto for Corpse Marker, but sadly Russell Hunter passed away shortly after Kaldor City concluded and without Uvanov the story kind of falls apart. It's a bit unconventional, but with the stories going however long they needed to, there may even have been space for something similar to the adapted preludes for Love and War wherein you could adapt short stories using the same cast or even bundle in a preexisting short trip. It would have been interesting to listen to Venusian Lullaby and have it follow up with The Nine Day Queen or The Book of Shadows. I agree on The Witch Hunters. By the end, there were some people leading the witch hunt that I wished had been killed, because their behavior was unacceptable on many levels, and their logic was full of holes. It's rare that a novel has been so good at creating a villain that I genuinely wish death on the character. It's also rare to see a hard historical novel - there's no alien threat. No one is interfering here. This is a story where the villains are just ordinary people. There's no one amplifying their hatred behind the scenes, no man behind the curtain. Incidentally, I'd like to see Lungbarrow or Campaign adapted. Mortimore has been pushing for someone to license it for a while. It's a story that's an experience like no other. And that's exactly what makes it so deplorable. Humanity enslaved by its own fear, the unknown treated as a deadly and horrific threat until finally, they invent their own monsters. Campaign would be a fascinating story to see adapted into an audio. I wonder how they'd differentiate each iteration of the game? Does the soundscape slowly devolve/metamorphose into something totally unrecognisable by the end?
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Jan 14, 2017 19:18:22 GMT
By not having done Blood Harvest and Goth Opera, which I think most fans actually wanted adapted, and while doing some of the other novels, that just weren't as popular. I believe BF has shown how out of touch with the fans, they really are.
If they had a clue, they would know what we want, and we will buy what we want, but if you produce things we don't really care about, of course your sales are going to suffer.
Blood Harvest and Goth Opera is about the only NA and MA that belonged in a set together, for one can be considered the sequel to the other, and I don't think that happened again in the Virgin ranges.
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Post by omega on Jan 14, 2017 23:13:50 GMT
I agree on The Witch Hunters. By the end, there were some people leading the witch hunt that I wished had been killed, because their behavior was unacceptable on many levels, and their logic was full of holes. It's rare that a novel has been so good at creating a villain that I genuinely wish death on the character. It's also rare to see a hard historical novel - there's no alien threat. No one is interfering here. This is a story where the villains are just ordinary people. There's no one amplifying their hatred behind the scenes, no man behind the curtain. Sanctuary is another historical where the villains are persecuting other people, this time another religious group who are just minding their own business. It's a very strong book for Benny, featuring the man who from whom she got her son's middle name.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2017 0:54:44 GMT
By not having done Blood Harvest and Goth Opera, which I think most fans actually wanted adapted, and while doing some of the other novels, that just weren't as popular. I believe BF has shown how out of touch with the fans, they really are.
If they had a clue, they would know what we want, and we will buy what we want, but if you produce things we don't really care about, of course your sales are going to suffer.
Blood Harvest and Goth Opera is about the only NA and MA that belonged in a set together, for one can be considered the sequel to the other, and I don't think that happened again in the Virgin ranges. Lords of the Storm and Shakedown was the other pair. Millennial Rites and Head Games kind of form an informal one with Sixy's potentially nasty future, but its not formal. Of the two, adapting Blood Harvest would probably have been the hardest as a lot of the original cast for the sequences in E-Space are dead or unlikely to return, so it would probably necessitate a leap forward by several generations to the son of Ivo, an Autloc who possessed the body of a slain champion sent to recover loot from the Tower, etc. Personally, I think that's probably the route the novel should have originally taken to avoid the massive continuity error of there always being other villages when it's an important plot point in the original that there is only one (not really addressed outside of personal theorising from memory). The novel adaptations suffer from a series of hurdles: - That they're adaptations of works that were often specifically designed so they couldn't be told easily in other formats, whether the medium be visual or audible;
- They feature a lot of characters whose actors have since passed away and play prominent parts in the proceedings (i.e. Liz Sladen, Mary Tamm, Nick Courtney, Roger Delgado, etc.);
- They're being adapted out-of-sequence and the novels themselves often bleed into one another in terms of character development, even if they exist outside of an arc (e.g. Sanctuary through to Original Sin for Benny or The Room with No Doors straight into Lungbarrow for the Doctor);
- Negotiating rights to the novels from the authors is a whole different issue entirely, particularly considering that some authors like Craig Hinton have recently since passed;
- Big Finish trying to find a way for it to appeal to their recently acquired NuWho audience who probably have no clue what the New Adventures were (with the current showrunner going on record saying that they exist in their own continuity, so from their perspective why bother?);
- Fitting all of that story down into the appropriate format, which is often not the four-parter that we're all used to from Big Finish (poor All-Consuming Fire) and;
- Getting all of that right and still having people drift away from it because it doesn't match their memories of the book, which is the categorically universal problem of adaptations.
All in all, they've done an amazing job. Love and War was the perfect NA to adapt because of Big Finish's preexisting history with Benny in both the monthly range and their own humble beginnings with her own stories set after those very novels. Damaged Goods made sense because it had Russell T. Davies's name attached to it and Gareth Roberts is a prominent writer in modern Who nowadays with the draw of Tom Baker going pretty much unsaid, putting The Highest Science in the bag as well. Now... Blood Harvest/Goth Opera are ideal because we've already got Lalla Ward and Louise Jameson onboard, even if Blood Harvest would require significant rewrites to its B-plot in order to work... Hmm... Launching off from that, how about Gary Russell's Legacy prominently featuring Peladon and Ice Warriors, tying into The Bride of Peladon from the monthly range? What about adaptations of stories that were retold in the Benny Summerfield range like Birthright and Just War? Stretching out further, how about an adaptation of novels recently republished like Ten Little Aliens with Peter Purves, Anneke Wills and Elliot Chapmen?
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Jan 15, 2017 1:04:12 GMT
Legacy was the first NA I ever read, and I can remember so little of it, other than the ice warriors working a con with the doctor(SPOILERS).
That had to be back in, let's see, October 1994.
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Post by dutchwhovian on Jan 15, 2017 21:51:58 GMT
I agree, a good bodysnatchers story The Bodynatchers is a great bodysnatching story and it featured Lightfoot. fun fact about the Bodysnatchers, that story was mentiont in the eighth doctor audio "The Zygon Who Fell to Earth" . Where 8th Doctor, Lucie Miller and auntie Pat encountering the Zygons and the doctor remembered a few occations where he met them before. one group in the 1970s with UNIT (Terror of the Zygons ) and the other group in the 1890s (the Bodysnatchers) I would actualy hear that story on audio.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 3:18:30 GMT
The Bodynatchers is a great bodysnatching story and it featured Lightfoot. fun fact about the Bodysnatchers, that story was mentiont in the eighth doctor audio "The Zygon Who Fell to Earth" . Where 8th Doctor, Lucie Miller and auntie Pat encountering the Zygons and the doctor remembered a few occations where he met them before. one group in the 1970s with UNIT (Terror of the Zygons ) and the other group in the 1890s (the Bodysnatchers) I would actualy hear that story on audio. There's a very oblique reference to The Scarlet Empress in The Stones of Venice as well, although you can easily take it as a bit of foreshadowing if you wish. I do like how some authors took the range's title of the New Eighth Doctor Adventures to mean that they were launching off of the prose range. The Eighth Doctor in Blood of the Daleks is very much like his novel counterpart, a little less forgiving and way more passionate than even his early wanderlust self.
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