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Post by nucleusofswarm on Jan 11, 2017 0:34:56 GMT
So, as we got Adventure for the 50th, if there were to do another TV movie for the 60th, what event in Who history would you like to see?
The rise and fall of Tom? The 1985 maelstrom? The 89 cancellation?
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Post by relativetime on Jan 11, 2017 1:39:59 GMT
I don't think it's likely we will see something like An Adventure in Space and Time, but if they do, I think I would like to see a dramatization of the 89 cancellation the most and the events leading up to it.
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Post by constonks on Jan 11, 2017 2:40:10 GMT
An underdog/comeback comedy called Doctor in Distress about the mid-80s with JNT as the main character and Michael Grade as the main villain.
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Post by icecreamdf on Jan 11, 2017 4:59:47 GMT
I'd like to see the story of how the relaunch came about, and what problems Christopher Eccleston had. It will probably be a while before all the details are widely known though.
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Post by shutupbanks on Jan 11, 2017 8:13:45 GMT
Every ten years we get the same treatment for the next Doctor: 60th is Troughton, 70th Pertwee and so on. Which means that we get the story of The Hiatus with the 100th: working title, "Nightmarish Monsters."
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 11, 2017 9:34:56 GMT
I'd like to see a docudrama on the birth of the 2005 revival. That would be the next big major Who history that needs to be covered.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 11, 2017 9:36:12 GMT
I don't think it's likely we will see something like An Adventure in Space and Time, but if they do, I think I would like to see a dramatization of the 89 cancellation the most and the events leading up to it. I think that would be a bit of a downbeat thing to dramatise in an anniversary year.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Jan 11, 2017 12:30:31 GMT
I don't think it's likely we will see something like An Adventure in Space and Time, but if they do, I think I would like to see a dramatization of the 89 cancellation the most and the events leading up to it. I think that would be a bit of a downbeat thing to dramatise in an anniversary year. Not if you end it with the McCoy quote from the end of Survival then shots of the comics, VNA's EDA's, the TV movie leading to the Revival
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Post by sherlock on Jan 11, 2017 13:09:45 GMT
I don't think it's likely we will see something like An Adventure in Space and Time, but if they do, I think I would like to see a dramatization of the 89 cancellation the most and the events leading up to it. Trouble is I don't think anything interesting happened relating to it. From cast and crew interviews all seemed fine, so presumably the drama would just consist of some executives sat around a table going 'shall we cancel it?'
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 11, 2017 13:43:25 GMT
I think that would be a bit of a downbeat thing to dramatise in an anniversary year. Not if you end it with the McCoy quote from the end of Survival then shots of the comics, VNA's EDA's, the TV movie leading to the Revival But why would you want to make a docudrama about the show's failure in 1989 as a means to celebrate the show's success? Why would you want to draw attention to that? You want to show that Doctor Who is a successful British hit - even if you follow it up with the shots you mention, it would still be pointing out 'Hey, you know that show we're celebrating? It was axed in 1989'.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Jan 11, 2017 14:05:13 GMT
Not if you end it with the McCoy quote from the end of Survival then shots of the comics, VNA's EDA's, the TV movie leading to the Revival But why would you want to make a docudrama about the show's failure in 1989 as a means to celebrate the show's success? Why would you want to draw attention to that? You want to show that Doctor Who is a successful British hit - even if you follow it up with the shots you mention, it would still be pointing out 'Hey, you know that show we're celebrating? It was axed in 1989'. Adventure in Space wasn't all happy happy either though. It showed how near disaster the show was in its infancy, and how much pain Hartnell was in, having to say goodbye to possibly his greatest role. An 89 drama could be strangely uplifting, as whiskey suggests: the show may have stopped, but it's anything other than forgotten or failed.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Jan 11, 2017 14:08:47 GMT
I'd like to see the story of how the relaunch came about, and what problems Christopher Eccleston had. It will probably be a while before all the details are widely known though. May be a bit soon though. One about the TV movie and the other failed revivals could be interesting though, a sort of 'then versus now' on how tv was made. You could probably have a fun montage of all the failed pitches, including Leekey's, ala an 80s prom/date makeover sequence.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 11, 2017 14:09:23 GMT
But why would you want to make a docudrama about the show's failure in 1989 as a means to celebrate the show's success? Why would you want to draw attention to that? You want to show that Doctor Who is a successful British hit - even if you follow it up with the shots you mention, it would still be pointing out 'Hey, you know that show we're celebrating? It was axed in 1989'. Adventure in Space wasn't all happy happy either though. It showed how near disaster the show was in its infancy, and how much pain Hartnell was in, having to say goodbye to possibly his greatest role. An 89 drama could be strangely uplifting, as whiskey suggests: the show may have stopped, but it's anything other than forgotten or failed. An Adventure In Space And Time portrayed something that was a success for the BBC though - you don't want to highlight a point where the show failed in an anniversary year.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2017 15:26:08 GMT
An Adventure in Time and Space celebrated something that had somewhat dwindled by the time an ill Wiliam Hartnell was forced out. Ratings were actually often lower in 1966 than they were in 1989, and that was against Coronation Street (an inexplicably popular UK soap opera). The subject actually closed on a very downbeat story really - Hartnell's regular acting career just about ended with Doctor Who. It was the way it was produced that made things more uplifting - little did any of the then regular crew know, it would celebrate its 50th anniversary and beyond. The inclusion of Matt Smith's Doctor was pure retrospectively celebrating what Doctor Who would become rather than the state of the show in 1966.
The same could easily be done with the show in a similar state in 1989, although I'm not sure the 60th anniversary will garner a docu-drama like this. Be good if it did though.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2017 16:16:05 GMT
The rise and fall of Tom Baker is something I could see them actually making, especially since he's generally regarded as the most iconic. And it'd be incredibly amusing, especially the Armageddon Factor bits and Nightmare Of Eden, too.
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Post by aztec on Jan 11, 2017 16:57:12 GMT
A Docu-Drama covering the Wilderness Years between Survival-TVM-Rose would be interesting.
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Post by constonks on Jan 11, 2017 17:35:58 GMT
A Docu-Drama covering the Wilderness Years between Survival-TVM-Rose would be interesting. The Nick Briggs Story.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 11, 2017 18:04:02 GMT
An Adventure in Time and Space celebrated something that had somewhat dwindled by the time an ill Wiliam Hartnell was forced out. Ratings were actually often lower in 1966 than they were in 1989, and that was against Coronation Street (an inexplicably popular UK soap opera). The subject actually closed on a very downbeat story really - Hartnell's regular acting career just about ended with Doctor Who. It was the way it was produced that made things more uplifting - little did any of the then regular crew know, it would celebrate its 50th anniversary and beyond. The inclusion of Matt Smith's Doctor was pure retrospectively celebrating what Doctor Who would become rather than the state of the show in 1966. The same could easily be done with the show in a similar state in 1989, although I'm not sure the 60th anniversary will garner a docu-drama like this. Be good if it did though. But it wasn't about post-Hartnell, it was about the creation of the show - which was a success story. William Hartnell's ill-health was just how it ended - and it was an upbeat ending about the show's future, given that the current Doctor Matt Smith appears at the end to show that his legacy has continued right up to the present day. It's totally different to what a 1989 docudrama would be, which is celebrating the show's failure - fine any other time of year but in an anniversary year would be inappropriate.
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Post by doctorkernow on Jan 11, 2017 21:53:52 GMT
Hello again. Mmm. A documentary about the two cancellations and the wilderness years?
There is some dramatic potential in this idea, but not during an anniversary year. The general viewing public would probably not be as interested as the long-term fans of the series.
However, if you covered from the 1985 season to the 1989 season in part one.
You have some drama there, the season 22 violence debate, JNT trying to appeal to fans, poor Colin's dismissal, Chris Chibnall on Open Air(?!), the trials of producing those final three seasons in a climate of disinterest and derision and ending in cancellation.
Part two would feature the wilderness years, the Virgin books, remember the controversy over the more adult material, the various attempts to remount the series including the ill-fated Dark Dimension and Children of Need farce.
The main focus of part two would however be the hope of the McGann movie, and the awful hangover when Who disappeared again. Then we bring in the arrival of Big Finish in 1999 and the gradual revival of the series.
Such a production is highly unlikely to happen as it is of very limited interest to non-Who fans. But hey, it is an interesting story of persistence and creativity for us who lived through those twenty years.
As for DW60 a dramadoc of Tom Baker from building site to Little Britain, yes please!!
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Post by sherlock on Jan 11, 2017 23:01:07 GMT
As for DW60 a dramadoc of Tom Baker from building site to Little Britain, yes please!! Who would play Baker in that is the million dollar question
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