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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Feb 2, 2017 12:48:23 GMT
I don't see any problem with a wait. Anticipation is good. And I like that the schedule is more varied and flexible than "one series at the same time every year". How is the schedule being flexible a good thing?
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Post by bobod on Feb 2, 2017 12:48:34 GMT
It does read though as less than it's actually being presented as.
Chibnall just says he's not been able to devote himself *fully* to DW yet. There can't be anyone who that's news to, since Broadchurch 3 is yet to air.
And then someone else has apparently said Autumn for broadcast.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Feb 5, 2017 17:50:19 GMT
I thought the reason it wasnt doing well in the Autumn was because of them putting it later but also around Strictly. But if it gives Chibnall enough time to finish one thing before he gets Who going fully, rather than having both side by side will help him focus God, yes. Enough of producers working on two things at the same time. It's also good to remember that this statement should not be a great cause for concern. Chibnall would've already had meetings with Moffat and the BBC through 2016 to discuss what he'd like to do, and at least once with Capaldi to decide if he wanted to stay around. When he says 'he hasn't gotten around to it', he likely means writing the actual scripts, but this does not mean he hasn't worked out the stories, as the series would need an outline and episode treatments in order to help shape how it would be produced, as well as what kind of Doctor they want.
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Post by aztec on Feb 5, 2017 20:00:23 GMT
The BBC could always push Capaldi's regeneration back to April 2018 and give us a couple more specials with the 12th Doctor before he goes (hint hint BBC) not sure they could bank on S11 being a big hit/relaunch if we have to wait 9 months for the first proper episode with the 13th Doctor, especially given the rumours the BBC might be casting a actress in the part this time and/or simply trying to redo the Tennant years rather than moving forward.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Feb 5, 2017 20:38:08 GMT
The BBC could always push Capaldi's regeneration back to April 2018 and give us a couple more specials with the 12th Doctor before he goes (hint hint BBC) not sure they could bank on S11 being a big hit/relaunch if we have to wait 9 months for the first proper episode with the 13th Doctor, especially given the rumours the BBC might be casting a actress in the part this time and/or simply trying to redo the Tennant years rather than moving forward. It'd be mighty nice, but don't hold your breath over it. We'll likely know who is 13 around Nov-Dec.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Feb 5, 2017 20:38:17 GMT
The BBC could always push Capaldi's regeneration back to April 2018 and give us a couple more specials with the 12th Doctor before he goes (hint hint BBC) not sure they could bank on S11 being a big hit/relaunch if we have to wait 9 months for the first proper episode with the 13th Doctor, especially given the rumours the BBC might be casting a actress in the part this time and/or simply trying to redo the Tennant years rather than moving forward. Some Specials with 12 that act like an expanded version of 10's farewell tour would have been great. Special 1: The Paternoster Gang Special 2: Danny Pink Special 3: Grant/The Ghost and Lucy Special 4: Clara and Ashildr, Missy Or, if Bill in this scenario left at the end of Series 10: Special 1: The Paternoster Gang Special 2: Danny Pink Special 3: Clara and Ashildr Special 4: Bill and Missy It's a shame that we already know this isn't the case though and there's only 12 episodes and a Christmas Special.
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Post by aztec on Feb 5, 2017 20:46:00 GMT
The BBC could always push Capaldi's regeneration back to April 2018 and give us a couple more specials with the 12th Doctor before he goes (hint hint BBC) not sure they could bank on S11 being a big hit/relaunch if we have to wait 9 months for the first proper episode with the 13th Doctor, especially given the rumours the BBC might be casting a actress in the part this time and/or simply trying to redo the Tennant years rather than moving forward. Some Specials with 12 that act like an expanded version of 10's farewell tour would have been great. Special 1: The Paternoster Gang Special 2: Danny Pink Special 3: Grant/The Ghost and Lucy Special 4: Clara and Ashildr, Missy Or, if Bill in this scenario left at the end of Series 10: Special 1: The Paternoster Gang Special 2: Danny Pink Special 3: Clara and Ashildr Special 4: Bill and Missy It's a shame that we already know this isn't the case though and there's only 12 episodes and a Christmas Special. It's a shame they abandoned the Minisodes and shorts that were so prevalent in Smith's era, two or three comedic shorts of the doctor bumbling around his tardis or talking to nardole would have been better than nothing and could have teased S10...
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Post by mark687 on Feb 5, 2017 20:49:09 GMT
Some Specials with 12 that act like an expanded version of 10's farewell tour would have been great. Special 1: The Paternoster Gang Special 2: Danny Pink Special 3: Grant/The Ghost and Lucy Special 4: Clara and Ashildr, Missy Or, if Bill in this scenario left at the end of Series 10: Special 1: The Paternoster Gang Special 2: Danny Pink Special 3: Clara and Ashildr Special 4: Bill and Missy It's a shame that we already know this isn't the case though and there's only 12 episodes and a Christmas Special. It's a shame they abandoned the Minisodes and shorts that were so prevalent in Smith's era... And they often contained crucial character depth.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Feb 5, 2017 22:00:41 GMT
Some Specials with 12 that act like an expanded version of 10's farewell tour would have been great. Special 1: The Paternoster Gang Special 2: Danny Pink Special 3: Grant/The Ghost and Lucy Special 4: Clara and Ashildr, Missy Or, if Bill in this scenario left at the end of Series 10: Special 1: The Paternoster Gang Special 2: Danny Pink Special 3: Clara and Ashildr Special 4: Bill and Missy It's a shame that we already know this isn't the case though and there's only 12 episodes and a Christmas Special. It's a shame they abandoned the Minisodes and shorts that were so prevalent in Smith's era, two or three comedic shorts of the doctor bumbling around his tardis or talking to nardole would have been better than nothing and could have teased S10... Especially when Moffat promised more minisodes.
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Feb 6, 2017 3:43:57 GMT
In all seriousness, though, the show is gonna be in a state in a year's time if they take too many silly risks like they are rumored to be doing. Wouldn't be surprised if the show got canned, at this rate. It really doesn't understand the public. It only seems to understand the fans (during Capaldi) and children (during Matt Smith). I really think that it's a very, very bad idea. I been a fan for 37 years now, and I don't think the BBC ever understood Doctor Who's fan base...They just know it's a money maker.
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Feb 6, 2017 3:46:56 GMT
Good News: I have Big Finish Bad News: I will be dead by the time Series 15 gets here. Good News: That might be 2047 Bad News: I don't like my odd getting to series 11 Good News: It might not be worth watchin anyway. Bad News: It might not be worth watchin anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 3:50:10 GMT
In all seriousness, though, the show is gonna be in a state in a year's time if they take too many silly risks like they are rumored to be doing. Wouldn't be surprised if the show got canned, at this rate. It really doesn't understand the public. It only seems to understand the fans (during Capaldi) and children (during Matt Smith). I really think that it's a very, very bad idea.
Hey,
Can you keep all the rumour talk to the spoiler thread? I get being excited and tempted, but I don't really even what a hint or suggestion to what these rumours are about.
Thanks
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 3:54:48 GMT
I think it's more of anticipation move, then anything. Who's ratings have been declining (thanks BBC) and making the audience for the new Doctor longer is a way to rejuvunate intrest. I can see the logic, sadly
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Post by aztec on Feb 6, 2017 20:19:43 GMT
I think it's more of anticipation move, then anything. Who's ratings have been declining (thanks BBC) and making the audience for the new Doctor longer is a way to rejuvunate intrest. I can see the logic, sadly
Yeah and it could backfire depending on who they cast, a substantial amount of viewers aren't keen on a female Doctor, and I've come across more than a few who don't want a Tennant/Baker clone, I've stopped watching the show several times before so if they go the route of a controversial stunt casting or merely rehasing an old Doctor I'm not sure I'd actually tune in eight months later...
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Feb 6, 2017 20:47:46 GMT
I think it's more of anticipation move, then anything. Who's ratings have been declining (thanks BBC) and making the audience for the new Doctor longer is a way to rejuvunate intrest. I can see the logic, sadly
Yeah and it could backfire depending on who they cast, a substantial amount of viewers aren't keen on a female Doctor, and I've come across more than a few who don't want a Tennant/Baker clone, I've stopped watching the show several times before so if they go the route of a controversial stunt casting or merely rehasing an old Doctor I'm not sure I'd actually tune in eight months later... A female doctor could help out the ratings, for bout 2 weeks, but if the stories ain't there, the core won't be either.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 4:55:09 GMT
Not much of a surprise - they'd need to be filming in about 3 or 4 months to be ready for Spring '18. With Broadchurch having just finished post-production, Chibnall can't reasonably be expected to cast his Doctor, plot the series, write his eps, assemble all the other writers, work on their scripts with them and all the ancillary work the showrunner has to take on in a matter of 12 weeks. And the pre-production of sets, props, design, makeup etc can't be rushed. Struggling to see how the show could be on any earlier than Autumn '18.
Autumn makes perfect sense logistically even if it's not the best schedule wise, with Strictly Come Dancing being the centre-piece of the Saturday night entertainment. We've just seen the new show have it's worst ratings season ever in the Autumn.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Feb 7, 2017 11:03:43 GMT
Not much of a surprise - they'd need to be filming in about 3 or 4 months to be ready for Spring '18. With Broadchurch having just finished post-production, Chibnall can't reasonably be expected to cast his Doctor, plot the series, write his eps, assemble all the other writers, work on their scripts with them and all the ancillary work the showrunner has to take on in a matter of 12 weeks. And the pre-production of sets, props, design, makeup etc can't be rushed. Struggling to see how the show could be on any earlier than Autumn '18. Like I said, Chibnall likely has everything plotted out, given what he would've had to have done in 2016, he just needs to write tangible scripts and then the pre-production can start. The autumn release can also be interpreted as more breathing room for Chibnall and his staff to produce, rather than develop.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 15:35:50 GMT
Broadchurch Series 3 didn't make itself - he's been rather busy in 2016. No way - NO WAY - was there a hope that the next Doctor starts shooting as soon as June.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Feb 7, 2017 20:08:16 GMT
Broadchurch Series 3 didn't make itself - he's been rather busy in 2016. No way - NO WAY - was there a hope that the next Doctor starts shooting as soon as June. I didn't say that. I said Chibnall would've done plotting last year (which he would've had to in order for Capaldi to decide if he wanted in or not, as well as allow prep time for the BBC to schedule production and begin preparing to cast), and once S3 is done and he has his holiday, he can get into creating something more tangible and get his Doctor.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 0:12:41 GMT
I think it's more of anticipation move, then anything. Who's ratings have been declining (thanks BBC) and making the audience for the new Doctor longer is a way to rejuvunate intrest. I can see the logic, sadly
Yeah and it could backfire depending on who they cast, a substantial amount of viewers aren't keen on a female Doctor, and I've come across more than a few who don't want a Tennant/Baker clone, I've stopped watching the show several times before so if they go the route of a controversial stunt casting or merely rehasing an old Doctor I'm not sure I'd actually tune in eight months later...
Eh, the show's ratings in the UK are sinking. Yes, iPlayer figures are strong, but you can't blame the BBC wanting the series to be event viewing again.
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