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Post by theotherjosh on Feb 16, 2017 14:35:09 GMT
Is there an official answer to this kind of thing? He appears in the Stolen Earth and the Doctor name drops him in Catch-1782. (Also, Romana paraphrases him in an episode of Gallifrey, which I maintain is one of the coolest things Big Finish has ever done.)
So we know he exists as a person in Doctor Who. However, he was married to Lalla Ward, who plays Romana. So how do we reconcile that?
In my head canon, I assume that he's married to a suspiciously similar substitute, an actress named "Linda Ward" who acted in a science fiction series called Professor X.
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Post by jasonward on Feb 16, 2017 14:57:13 GMT
Why couldn't he be married to Lalla Ward in the Whoniverse? There is no logical inconsistency with that, in universe Lalla Ward is not Romana, if they happen to look the same, well then perhaps something timey wimey or perhaps just plain maths, in an infinite universe there are an infinite number of people that look exactly like you.
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Post by mark687 on Feb 16, 2017 15:02:10 GMT
Is there an official answer to this kind of thing? He appears in the Stolen Earth and the Doctor name drops him in Catch-1782. (Also, Romana paraphrases him in an episode of Gallifrey, which I maintain is one of the coolest things Big Finish has ever done.) So we know he exists as a person in Doctor Who. However, he was married to Lalla Ward, who plays Romana. So how do we reconcile that? In my head canon, I assume that he's married to a suspiciously similar substitute, an actress named "Linda Ward" who acted in a science fiction series called Professor X. If you count Virgin Books as cannon he's married to someone "who looks remarkable like" Romanna 2 who they bump into at the Queens Re-Coronation in the Novel The Dying Days.
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Post by theotherjosh on Feb 16, 2017 15:05:22 GMT
Is there an official answer to this kind of thing? He appears in the Stolen Earth and the Doctor name drops him in Catch-1782. (Also, Romana paraphrases him in an episode of Gallifrey, which I maintain is one of the coolest things Big Finish has ever done.) So we know he exists as a person in Doctor Who. However, he was married to Lalla Ward, who plays Romana. So how do we reconcile that? In my head canon, I assume that he's married to a suspiciously similar substitute, an actress named "Linda Ward" who acted in a science fiction series called Professor X. If you count Virgin Books as cannon he's married to someone "who looks remarkable like" Romanna 2 who they bump into at the Queens Re-Coronation in the Novel The Dying Days.
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I like that! Updating my head canon correspondingly! |
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Post by theotherjosh on Feb 16, 2017 15:18:34 GMT
Why couldn't he be married to Lalla Ward in the Whoniverse? There is no logical inconsistency with that, in universe Lalla Ward is not Romana, if they happen to look the same, well then perhaps something timey wimey or perhaps just plain maths, in an infinite universe there are an infinite number of people that look exactly like you. That works too. There’s nothing to preclude it. I’m not advancing a specific agenda as much as I am throwing this out to see what other people think on the topic. I just came to my conclusion because the existence of Lalla Ward as a person in the Doctor Who universe would necessarily give rise to other questions that would have to be answered. |
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Post by icecreamdf on Feb 16, 2017 15:31:09 GMT
Maybe he married Princess Astra.
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Post by jasonward on Feb 16, 2017 15:58:33 GMT
I was just thinking (because of this thread) about probability, and realised that in an infinite universe there is no probability, things that can happen have happened, are happening and will happen, and things that can't happen have never happen and will never happen. Things are or are not. It's binary. Probability is inherently a localised view.
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Post by Whovitt on Feb 16, 2017 22:12:11 GMT
I've thought about something similar to this - in the Torchwood episode Greeks Bearing Gifts, Tosh makes a reference to the scene in the movie Alien about "...the bit where the Alien comes out of John Hurt". Similarly again, Harry Potter is a fictional series within Doctor Who (see The Shakespeare Code), and John Hurt plays Mr Ollivander in the movie adaptations. This means there must be a separate John Hurt and War Doctor both knocking about the place  |
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Post by icecreamdf on Feb 16, 2017 22:49:13 GMT
I've thought about something similar to this - in the Torchwood episode Greeks Bearing Gifts, Tosh makes a reference to the scene in the movie Alien about "...the bit where the Alien comes out of John Hurt". Similarly again, Harry Potter is a fictional series within Doctor Who (see The Shakespeare Code), and John Hurt plays Mr Ollivander in the movie adaptations. This means there must be a separate John Hurt and War Doctor both knocking about the place Ollivander could just be played by someone else in the Doctor Who Universe. Same with both Barty Crouches, Dumbledore, Filch, Kreacher, Dobby, and all the other many actors who were in both. Actually, come to think of it, didn't Robot of Sherwood have a clip of Troughton playing Robin Hood? That suggests that Troughton exists in the Doctor Who Universe. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 1:01:37 GMT
I've thought about something similar to this - in the Torchwood episode Greeks Bearing Gifts, Tosh makes a reference to the scene in the movie Alien about "...the bit where the Alien comes out of John Hurt". Similarly again, Harry Potter is a fictional series within Doctor Who (see The Shakespeare Code), and John Hurt plays Mr Ollivander in the movie adaptations. This means there must be a separate John Hurt and War Doctor both knocking about the place Ollivander could just be played by someone else in the Doctor Who Universe. Same with both Barty Crouches, Dumbledore, Filch, Kreacher, Dobby, and all the other many actors who were in both. Actually, come to think of it, didn't Robot of Sherwood have a clip of Troughton playing Robin Hood? That suggests that Troughton exists in the Doctor Who Universe. There are certainly a lot of doppelgangers floating around aren't there? Everyone from Salamander to Tom Baker, who I really desperately want to believe is the Curator from The Day of the Doctor and an old friend of the Doctor's just messing about with him. |
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Post by Ela on Feb 17, 2017 4:47:08 GMT
Is there an official answer to this kind of thing? He appears in the Stolen Earth and the Doctor name drops him in Catch-1782. (Also, Romana paraphrases him in an episode of Gallifrey, which I maintain is one of the coolest things Big Finish has ever done.) So we know he exists as a person in Doctor Who. However, he was married to Lalla Ward, who plays Romana. So how do we reconcile that? In my head canon, I assume that he's married to a suspiciously similar substitute, an actress named "Linda Ward" who acted in a science fiction series called Professor X. If you count Virgin Books as cannon he's married to someone "who looks remarkable like" Romanna 2 who they bump into at the Queens Re-Coronation in the Novel The Dying Days.
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Why don't I remember this bit?  Time to re-read The Dying Days, maybe. |
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Feb 17, 2017 5:49:51 GMT
I've thought about something similar to this - in the Torchwood episode Greeks Bearing Gifts, Tosh makes a reference to the scene in the movie Alien about "...the bit where the Alien comes out of John Hurt". Similarly again, Harry Potter is a fictional series within Doctor Who (see The Shakespeare Code), and John Hurt plays Mr Ollivander in the movie adaptations. This means there must be a separate John Hurt and War Doctor both knocking about the place Well, we know Alien exists - the Doctor is appalled at there being a horror film called Alien in the Facehugger at Christmas story, and Izzy makes a "I feel like an extra in Aliens" comment to the eighth Doctor who assures her he know what she means |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 14:28:31 GMT
I've thought about something similar to this - in the Torchwood episode Greeks Bearing Gifts, Tosh makes a reference to the scene in the movie Alien about "...the bit where the Alien comes out of John Hurt". Similarly again, Harry Potter is a fictional series within Doctor Who (see The Shakespeare Code), and John Hurt plays Mr Ollivander in the movie adaptations. This means there must be a separate John Hurt and War Doctor both knocking about the place Well, we know Alien exists - the Doctor is appalled at there being a horror film called Alien in the Facehugger at Christmas story, and Izzy makes a "I feel like an extra in Aliens" comment to the eighth Doctor who assures her he know what she means Oh, god, even without the Alien 3 meta context it makes way too much sense. The Ark in Space, The Wheel in Space, Earthshock, The Grief, The Apocalypse Element, Echoes of the Mogor, Last Christmas, Parasite, etc. |
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Post by aemiliapaula on Feb 17, 2017 23:26:28 GMT
I don't know about the Whoniverse but my favourite line of Drama Showcase Unintelligent Design is towards the end when someone shouts "In the name of Richard Dawkins!"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2017 10:58:14 GMT
I don't know about the Whoniverse but my favourite line of Drama Showcase Unintelligent Design is towards the end when someone shouts "In the name of Richard Dawkins!" That reminds me actually, has Doctor Who ever mentioned in passing that Romana's doppelganger has an asteroid named after her? 8347 Lallaward. Actually, with that in mind, I'm kind of surprised that Romana hasn't had a comet or something similar named after her at some point. |
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Post by number13 on Feb 20, 2017 22:21:03 GMT
I don't know about the Whoniverse but my favourite line of Drama Showcase Unintelligent Design is towards the end when someone shouts "In the name of Richard Dawkins!" That reminds me actually, has Doctor Who ever mentioned in passing that Romana's doppelganger has an asteroid named after her? 8347 Lallaward. Actually, with that in mind, I'm kind of surprised that Romana hasn't had a comet or something similar named after her at some point. Comet Fred ... |
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