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Post by ulyssessarcher on Feb 20, 2017 5:26:55 GMT
As a fan since the late 70's, I can remember the days before VCR's, Taping the sound on cassette to listen to later. Then VCR's made it possible to tape episodes, cause it was hard to afford the early original VCR tapes, I didn't hear about the missing episodes until late in the 80's.
I remember the wilderness years, when Virgin Publishing kept the doctor's hearts beating. I boycotted BBC when they pulled Virgin's licence, and wouldn't buy a BBC novel, (we all make mistakes), And the Movie from the very late 90's. The rumors abounded for years about a return, but it seemed it would never happen.
Then, BANG, it's back, and it's freakin awesome.
I missed the beginning of Big Finish, but have caught up fairly quickly. So my question is.
Are we living in the golden age of Doctor Who? Has it passed, is it yet to come?
I think this is it! Audiobooks, Big Finish, television, audio recordings for the tv episodes, novels, spin offs from multiple companies. If this isn't the golden age, it's awful close.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 8:31:11 GMT
As a fan since the late 70's, I can remember the days before VCR's, Taping the sound on cassette to listen to later. Then VCR's made it possible to tape episodes, cause it was hard to afford the early original VCR tapes, I didn't hear about the missing episodes until late in the 80's. I remember the wilderness years, when Virgin Publishing kept the doctor's hearts beating. I boycotted BBC when they pulled Virgin's licence, and wouldn't buy a BBC novel, (we all make mistakes), And the Movie from the very late 90's. The rumors abounded for years about a return, but it seemed it would never happen. Then, BANG, it's back, and it's freakin awesome. I missed the beginning of Big Finish, but have caught up fairly quickly. So my question is. Are we living in the golden age of Doctor Who? Has it passed, is it yet to come? I think this is it! Audiobooks, Big Finish, television, audio recordings for the tv episodes, novels, spin offs from multiple companies. If this isn't the golden age, it's awful close. I agree. We've never had it so good. You can tell that by all the complaints.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Feb 20, 2017 9:47:53 GMT
In terms of programme quality.... ehh, that's something that's very open for debate.
In terms of exposure, respect and recogition, absolutely. Global popularity has never been bigger, and the number of ways to enjoy all forms of Who has never been easier. The Classic Series is now fully available to buy, beginning to end, has found a lot of new critical respect that didn't exist as much during the Wilderness Years, and even if they don't watch it, the enwer fans are at least aware of the show's history and the old Doctors.
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Post by muckypup on Feb 20, 2017 10:18:40 GMT
No golden age was about 5 years ago, for both the show & BF
Sure we are getting great high quality audios, but much of what Moffat has done over the last 5 years has unraveled the show, and spoilt my love for it.
BF's move to multi box sets, short trips & diversification, although still brilliant has changed my loyalty to them somewhat.
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Post by number13 on Feb 20, 2017 10:38:09 GMT
For broadcast 'Doctor Who', no. The Golden Age was the Seventies and so said the audience figures too. 16 million peak, routinely topping 10 million. Jon Pertwee once caused gridlock just by driving to the filming location in 'Bessie' and huge crowds thronged around Tom Baker at every appearance.
But for recorded and audio 'Doctor Who', oh yes. Back in that Golden Age I knew that if I didn't see an episode on Saturday evening, I would NEVER see it, unless it was one of the handful of stories repeated at Christmas etc. (Less than ten ever as I remember it.) So I had to ask friends how 'Terror of the Zygons' finished and for 'The Curse of Peladon' it was worse - the same power cut blacked out everyone I knew so the ending remained a mystery for years.
Now if you miss an episode, there's iPlayer, the new series and all the classics they didn't wipe are released on DVD (Jon Pertwee all in colour again at last), all the rest are on audio and fan recons. And Big Finish keep expanding the Doctor's universe with seemingly limitless (and mostly excellent) content.
And I've even got 'my' Doctor back, thanks to Mr. Treloar!
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Post by mark687 on Feb 20, 2017 10:44:25 GMT
No I have to agree the new golden age on TV was RTD and DT there was something about that combo that connected everywhere.
The Classic golden age being the 70s again it suddenly connected everywhere.
(Though my personal TV favourites for consistent good quality are the 2nd Doc, Seasons 12-16 4th Doc, season 19, 6th Doc, everything from Season 25 through to End of Time)
Now BF is more down to personal taste. It consistently better then TV output IMO with a couple of exceptions.
Regards
mark687
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Feb 20, 2017 10:48:19 GMT
Golden Age of writing?
No!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 5:08:53 GMT
In terms of exposure, I reckon it got kicked off with Russell T. Davies and David Tennant. From the ground, I remember trying to explain the TARDIS and the Daleks to people during the reruns in 2003 and everybody was focussed instead on things like The Simpsons, but when the Tenth Doctor made his debut I didn't have to do the preamble anymore, they knew exactly what I was talking about. The show was big and everyone seemed to love it, all the merchandise kept popping up and people were quoting lines from the show. When Matt Smith entered the role it was like the shift from Tom Baker to Peter Davison. You could see certain people dropping off from the programme, but there was still a fondness for it and that star was still bright in the sky... Then we hit Let's Kill Hitler or Asylum of the Daleks and something happened, it was like the substrata of ice cracking beneath a frozen lake. Complaints started to converge on an increased gimmickiness, overused gags like "Noun is cool," and a new worry that the Doctor had started to become minimised in his own show, which brings us to where we are now. Granted this isn't universal, but from where I stand it seemed that the bubble burst halfway through the sixth series and casual viewers started trailing off, so the show became largely fan-orientated which you can see in moves like in Series 9 where there was an attempt to reintroduce the classic series format (in the style of Season 22) to a twenty-first century audience. Didn't quite work with some people, I recall a friend who didn't like the format change and was actually cajoled away from looking at the classic series because of it. We may have more or less passed the golden age for the new series right now. In terms of content, the show has never been better. We've got Torchwood, The Sarah Jane Adventures (both series), I, Davros, Lethbridge-Stewart, The Minister of Chance, Erimem, UNIT, Jago and Litefoot, Bernice Summerfield, Cyberman, Dalek Empire, Iris Wildthyme, Faction Paradox, The Lives of Captain Jack, The Diary of River Song, Charlotte Pollard, Short Trips, the revival, the classic series, the comics, the novels, the novel adaptations, the audiobooks, the audio dramas, twelve Doctors and a partridge in a pear tree. We are not for want of content. There is so much to absorb now that I've actually found a sizeable decrease in fan content since the RTD years. All the old contributors I used to follow from then have up and vanished in one way or another. Some have broken through into professional productions like Philip Lawrence who once did Action Figure Theatre, others have just up and vanished into the ether. It's really fascinating looking at all these works actually, Doctor Who as it stands now is nowhere near what it was in say 2004 for example. It's an entirely different animal. Very firmly science fiction with the razor edges that accompany it. Very little happened without reason.
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Post by constonks on Feb 23, 2017 22:58:44 GMT
I think Big Finish had a nice Renaissance last year, with the new series content and very strong MR releases right out of the gate in 2016.
As for the TV series, it's not the golden age. It can't be, because the show hasn't been on regularly since 2015.
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Post by mrperson on Feb 23, 2017 23:21:57 GMT
Yes, because Big Finish.
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