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Post by paulmorris7777 on Feb 27, 2017 22:47:39 GMT
I can understand keeping in favour with Moffat, but perhaps with him leaving the criticism will increase. I've felt that his contribution to the magazine is rather pointless! Really? My surprise is almost measurable, lol. What do you think of his contribution to DWM?
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Feb 28, 2017 9:25:51 GMT
B and C have lots in common. RTDs more "human" and "sexy" Doctor was a complete turn off for me. Not only was he sexy, he fell in love with his companions (and vice versa) and with various individuals on his travels. With the regeneration from Tennant to Smith coinciding with a new showrunner, Moffat could easily have made the Doctor asexual. He didn't. Chibnall has the ability to do this, and only time will tell. Moffat could have toned down the innuendos and nudity (Time of the Doctor being some of the most cringe worthy in DW history), but again, didn't. Hopefully, Chibnall will. I don't see why the Doctor falling in love is so terrible. He did it in the TV Movie too, and there were hints in the classic series that the 3rd Doctor fancied Jo Grant.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Feb 28, 2017 9:28:45 GMT
B. Don't see the problem with this. The Doctor has never been overtly asexual, just seldom interested. In the very first season he gets engaged to Cameca for crying out loud! (And there is some feelings there, he just knows he really can't stay). Some incarnations are more interested than others, the ninth and twelfth Doctors haven't really been especially romantic. I don't see the appeal of the Doctor being entirely unromantic, he does have feelings. This doesn't mean he necessarily fully understands human feelings I should add. This was one of the populist changes and I think it's fine. That said the Doctor's pining for Rose in Series 3 really did go on too long and the Moffat innuendos were just cringe-worthy at times. And in that episode, the Doctor doesn't realise he has proposed. When he finds out, he's completely shocked and embarrassed. There are feelings, but they are no stronger than Ian to Barbara, or Barbara to Doctor. So then they are strong, because Ian absolutely fancied Barbara.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Feb 28, 2017 9:33:54 GMT
And in that episode, the Doctor doesn't realise he has proposed. When he finds out, he's completely shocked and embarrassed. There are feelings, but they are no stronger than Ian to Barbara, or Barbara to Doctor. So then they are strong, because Ian absolutely fancied Barbara. Stop making things up!
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Feb 28, 2017 9:35:34 GMT
So then they are strong, because Ian absolutely fancied Barbara. Stop making things up! I'm not. Ian definitely fancied Barbara. Why else did they decide to follow Susan home together?
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Feb 28, 2017 9:39:05 GMT
B and C have lots in common. RTDs more "human" and "sexy" Doctor was a complete turn off for me. Not only was he sexy, he fell in love with his companions (and vice versa) and with various individuals on his travels. With the regeneration from Tennant to Smith coinciding with a new showrunner, Moffat could easily have made the Doctor asexual. He didn't. Chibnall has the ability to do this, and only time will tell. Moffat could have toned down the innuendos and nudity (Time of the Doctor being some of the most cringe worthy in DW history), but again, didn't. Hopefully, Chibnall will. I don't see why the Doctor falling in love is so terrible. He did it in the TV Movie too, and there were hints in the classic series that the 3rd Doctor fancied Jo Grant. Never liked that scene in the tv movie, but you're making things up, again.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Feb 28, 2017 9:41:38 GMT
I don't see why the Doctor falling in love is so terrible. He did it in the TV Movie too, and there were hints in the classic series that the 3rd Doctor fancied Jo Grant. Never liked that scene in the tv movie, but you're making things up, again. Everything I'm saying is true. 8 fancied Grave and 3 possibly fancied Jo.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Feb 28, 2017 9:50:39 GMT
I'm not. Ian definitely fancied Barbara. Why else did they decide to follow Susan home together? They are two concerned and responsible teachers.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Feb 28, 2017 9:52:48 GMT
I'm not. Ian definitely fancied Barbara. Why else did they decide to follow Susan home together? They are two concerned and responsible teachers. Who fancy each other. It would only take one of them to follow her home and potentially get in trouble with the police for stalking their student.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 9:59:46 GMT
So then they are strong, because Ian absolutely fancied Barbara. Stop making things up! I dunno Paul, BF seem to go with the romance idea - Ian's certainly getting a bit broody in The Rocket Men. I must admit I never saw Three and Jo as romantic for the longest time but The Green Death certainly leans that way. You could read it as him not wanting to lose his friend/surrogate duaghter I guess but The Doctor really treats Dr Jones as a bit of a love-rival.
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Post by shutupbanks on Feb 28, 2017 10:06:35 GMT
They are two concerned and responsible teachers. Who fancy each other. It would only take one of them to follow her home and potentially get in trouble with the police for stalking their student. Not back in the day, and even now, a teacher on their own is permitted to do things such as "home visit" if protocols are followed. Paul, what are your feelings on Ian and Barbara's performances in Episode 1 of The Romans?
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Post by shutupbanks on Feb 28, 2017 10:09:27 GMT
Really? My surprise is almost measurable, lol. What do you think of his contribution to DWM? I admit that I haven't read very much DWM since the very early 90s. However, I was offering an historical perspective on fannish attitudes towards the production team over time as well as a not terribly reverent comment towards your own attitude in regards to Mr Moffat.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Feb 28, 2017 10:18:54 GMT
Who fancy each other. It would only take one of them to follow her home and potentially get in trouble with the police for stalking their student. Not back in the day, and even now, a teacher on their own is permitted to do things such as "home visit" if protocols are followed. Paul, what are your feelings on Ian and Barbara's performances in Episode 1 of The Romans? Its a comedy episode. The characters sre relaxing for the first time. Nothing in it.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Feb 28, 2017 10:19:33 GMT
I dunno Paul, BF seem to go with the romance idea - Ian's certainly getting a bit broody in The Rocket Men. I must admit I never saw Three and Jo as romantic for the longest time but The Green Death certainly leans that way. You could read it as him not wanting to lose his friend/surrogate duaghter I guess but The Doctor really treats Dr Jones as a bit of a love-rival. One good reason to avoid BF.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Feb 28, 2017 10:20:11 GMT
Who fancy each other. It would only take one of them to follow her home and potentially get in trouble with the police for stalking their student. Not back in the day, and even now, a teacher on their own is permitted to do things such as "home visit" if protocols are followed. Paul, what are your feelings on Ian and Barbara's performances in Episode 1 of The Romans? Didn't help Susan gave a false address.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 10:38:18 GMT
I dunno Paul, BF seem to go with the romance idea - Ian's certainly getting a bit broody in The Rocket Men. I must admit I never saw Three and Jo as romantic for the longest time but The Green Death certainly leans that way. You could read it as him not wanting to lose his friend/surrogate duaghter I guess but The Doctor really treats Dr Jones as a bit of a love-rival. One good reason to avoid BF. You on the right forum, son? You do know what this one is primarily about, yeah?
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Post by shutupbanks on Feb 28, 2017 10:50:26 GMT
Not back in the day, and even now, a teacher on their own is permitted to do things such as "home visit" if protocols are followed. Paul, what are your feelings on Ian and Barbara's performances in Episode 1 of The Romans? Its a comedy episode. The characters sre relaxing for the first time. Nothing in it. www.bbcamerica.com/anglophenia/2011/11/a-companion-to-the-doctors-companions-ian-and-barbaraQuotes: "If you thought Amy and Rory were the Doctor’s first experience of love’s young dream..." and "In a recent episode of The Sarah Jane Adventures, it was revealed that Ian and Barbara eventually got married, and that they never appeared to grow old."
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Post by sherlock on Feb 28, 2017 11:23:10 GMT
So then they are strong, because Ian absolutely fancied Barbara. Stop making things up! Their romance is well established in spin-off media, based on implicit stuff in the tv show. A DWM comic had them get married within a year of leaving the TARDIS.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Feb 28, 2017 11:30:55 GMT
Couldn't find any evidence from the sixties?
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Feb 28, 2017 11:31:47 GMT
One good reason to avoid BF. You on the right forum, son? You do know what this one is primarily about, yeah? As its been said before, this forum isn't just about Big Finish!
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