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Post by mrperson on Mar 8, 2017 19:36:36 GMT
Well, I voted for them, and if you know your Spare Parts then my comment about Cyber Horse is a reference to the Mondasians I was thinking "The Silver Turk", actually. Fairly certain that the guy who was taught/manipulated by the Cybermen also built a wooden horse, which featured in the plot
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Mar 8, 2017 19:43:18 GMT
Now that's a great story.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Mar 8, 2017 20:23:39 GMT
Has anyone noticed that the Tenth Planet Cybermen are wearing surgical gloves in the NuWho episodes?
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Post by christmastrenzalore on Mar 8, 2017 20:44:59 GMT
Torn on The Tenth Planet and Age of Steel. Tenth Planet are creepier with their mix of human attributes with the awkwardly protruding machine components, but the Age of Steel are the most physically imposing with their armour like casings.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Mar 8, 2017 21:16:09 GMT
Torn on The Tenth Planet and Age of Steel. Tenth Planet are creepier with their mix of human attributes with the awkwardly protruding machine components, but the Age of Steel are the most physically imposing with their armour like casings. But they make so much noise.
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Post by christmastrenzalore on Mar 8, 2017 22:14:47 GMT
Torn on The Tenth Planet and Age of Steel. Tenth Planet are creepier with their mix of human attributes with the awkwardly protruding machine components, but the Age of Steel are the most physically imposing with their armour like casings. But they make so much noise. I think they make an appropriate amount of noise. Makes them sound heavy.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 8, 2017 23:04:44 GMT
Torn on The Tenth Planet and Age of Steel. Tenth Planet are creepier with their mix of human attributes with the awkwardly protruding machine components, but the Age of Steel are the most physically imposing with their armour like casings. But they make so much noise. So does a vacuum cleaner but it still gets the job done.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Mar 8, 2017 23:12:47 GMT
But they make so much noise. So does a vacuum cleaner but it still gets the job done. A vacuum cleaner sucks!
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 8, 2017 23:14:29 GMT
So does a vacuum cleaner but it still gets the job done. A vacuum cleaner sucks! I don't know, they're not that bad.
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Mar 9, 2017 6:39:14 GMT
So does a vacuum cleaner but it still gets the job done. A vacuum cleaner sucks! That was good enough to get me to blow pop-sickle out of my nose. VERY FUNNY!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2017 10:23:58 GMT
The original CyberMondasians have a really nice design that's accentuated by the additions made with the city-complex in Spare Parts and the vanguard in The Good Soldier. They become a lot creepier when you realise you can see what remains of their eyes and teeth like a macabre burn victim. You get the impression that there isn't skin beneath those masks, but augmented sinew and plastic capillaries. Amongst their strengths, the former demonstrates that they lack the "allergy" (for want of a better term) to gold dust that later evolutions would possess and the latter that they possess the means to condition men like Colonel Rhodes into murdering his own men using little more than past experiences (in his case, the Korean War). More so noteworthy because his suitability means that he is decapitated and installed directly into the ship as a biological component. Couple that with The Silver Turk demonstrating that they possess the telepathic beam you'd see in Cybermen from the Troughton era and they seem rather formidable. All in all, they make quite the impression.
I'm a bit intrigued by the variant seen in The Wheel in Space, which seem to be the very epitome of Cybermen who invade by cunning. Their telepathic control is so strong that it's able to override the psychotropic conditioning of the wheel personnel that's designed to make it impossible for their crew to be manipulated through brainwashing and their transporter orbs from endlessly fascinate me. They're able to travel through hard vacuum, phase through solid matter, carry at least one Cyberman within and there is no way to tell what exactly it's made of. Is it a permeable organic substance? Something exclusively synthetic? Perhaps a mix of both or a technology stolen from another converted race like what was implied of the androids in Earthshock? The only unfortunate thing is that the design requires them to bob backwards and forwards while they're speaking and the results end up being a little silly.
The CyberNomads from Revenge of the Cybermen are a bit more interesting from a conversion standpoint as they are probably one of the few breeds of whom we get a step-by-step description of the cybernisation process. Hegelia from Killing Ground is scrupulous in her documentation:
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Post by mrperson on Mar 9, 2017 15:13:05 GMT
Anyway, I have a hard time saying Tenth Planet design is the best. It may be closest to how Spare Parts later described things (the description given by the Cybermen in Tenth Planet was rather brief, unless I'm forgetting a longer exchange), but how much of that is down to the costume designer(s) thinking really hard about how the process might leave one looking and how much is down to the show being on a shoestring budget? I think the latter explains things like why we can see the actors' eyes and mouths through the "mask" more than the former. Like so many things in early Who, I found the costumes to be adorably tacky; I take them in stride and watch for the story, not effects/design. (They're not as bad as the Menoptra costumes, though).
Later models certainly respected the original intent, which included the drive to always better themselves. But at least they didn't look quite like they'd fall apart if you bumped into them.
If any bit of design is to be praised in the early era, it's the original TARDIS interior.
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