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Post by paulmorris7777 on Mar 25, 2017 15:57:49 GMT
List your Moffat plotholes, here!
I'll start with Time Heist. How did the Doctor and Clara escape the sand planet when they were tied up? No explanation guven!
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 25, 2017 16:06:25 GMT
How did The Doctor and Clara exit The Doctor's timestream in Name of the Doctor?
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Post by mark687 on Mar 25, 2017 16:17:18 GMT
List your Moffat plotholes, here! I'll start with Time Heist. How did the Doctor and Clara escape the sand planet when they were tied up? No explanation guven! Paul you'll give yourself RSI with this Thread
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Mar 25, 2017 16:32:19 GMT
List your Moffat plotholes, here! I'll start with Time Heist. How did the Doctor and Clara escape the sand planet when they were tied up? No explanation guven! Paul you'll give yourself RSI with this Thread
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RSI? I don't even abbreviate when I text!
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Post by mark687 on Mar 25, 2017 16:47:56 GMT
Paul you'll give yourself RSI with this Thread
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RSI? I don't even abbreviate when I text! Repetitive Strain Injury cause there's so many plot-holes to discuss depending on your point of view
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2017 16:48:54 GMT
How did the Master escape the Time-Lords? And why did he regenerate?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2017 16:55:10 GMT
How did The Doctor and Clara exit The Doctor's timestream in Name of the Doctor? Following on... why was the War Doctor not in the timestream, even though he is the same person?
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Post by acousticwolf on Mar 25, 2017 17:10:43 GMT
paulmorris7777, I'd be happier if this thread was general Doctor Who plot holes instead of solely Moffat-related. As it stands it appears you are soapboxing and that breaks the rules! Perhaps you should change the thread title and then a proper discussion can take place. Cheers Tony
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Mar 25, 2017 17:56:41 GMT
paulmorris7777 , I'd be happier if this thread was general Doctor Who plot holes instead of solely Moffat-related. As it stands it appears you are soapboxing and that breaks the rules! Perhaps you should change the thread title and then a proper discussion can take place. Cheers Tony Well, Moffat is the current Showrunner, and he has many plotholes. I'm sure RTD had his, and even Classic Who had a few, if any! So, it's not my fault that Moffat is a bad writer! Prove me otherwise, and start a Classic Who plothole thread, or a RTD plothole thread!
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Mar 25, 2017 17:57:36 GMT
How did The Doctor and Clara exit The Doctor's timestream in Name of the Doctor? MAJOR PLOTHOLE!
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Post by acousticwolf on Mar 25, 2017 18:22:22 GMT
paulmorris7777 , I'd be happier if this thread was general Doctor Who plot holes instead of solely Moffat-related. As it stands it appears you are soapboxing and that breaks the rules! Perhaps you should change the thread title and then a proper discussion can take place. Cheers Tony Well, Moffat is the current Showrunner, and he has many plotholes. I'm sure RTD had his, and even Classic Who had a few, if any! So, it's not my fault that Moffat is a bad writer! Prove me otherwise, and start a Classic Who plothole thread, or a RTD plothole thread! Paul, it no-one's responsibility to "prove otherwise" to you. Your opinion that Moffat us a bad writer is your opinion. Other people have their opinions and are equally valid as yours. The fact that you seem to be unable to accept a different viewpoint is not helpful and is likely to break our rules (and therefore have action taken against you). This is said another member and not a Mod. If I have to put my Mod hat on it will be take action on this thread and anybody who breaks the rules. As for writing, all writers have good, bad, indifferent stories and are all guilty of leaving plot-holes. I am interested in all aspects of DW and am happy to debate plot-holes but not in a thread that is directed at one showrunner who doesn't match up in your view. There is no reason to have separate threads covering various writers/showrunner. One thread for "Plot-holes in Doctor Who" would be enough Cheers Tony
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Post by ollychops on Mar 25, 2017 18:27:11 GMT
None of these are plot holes, in my opinion.
1. I had to think about what you were even talking about. You've actually got the wrong episode, that happened in The Caretaker. It was a little comical opening and isn't to be taken seriously. The escape happened off-screen. Just because it wasn't explained, doesn't make it a plot hole. Figure out an answer for yourself if you want. 2. Again, they just escaped between Name of the Doctor and Day of the Doctor. Just because it wasn't explained, doesn't make it a plot hole. 3. Both not mentioned. Again, just because it's not explained, doesn't make it a plot hole.
Aside from the first one, which was a more of a throwaway scene, I'd say that these were left up to the audience or left up to Big Finish to fill the gaps if they so wanted. I would say especially so in the case of Missy - Moffat has mentioned on multiple occasions that he leaves gaps for Big Finish to exploit, I would say that unless it's mentioned in a future episode, he's probably left that intentionally unexplained so that Big Finish can do something with it if they so wish.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Mar 25, 2017 18:31:12 GMT
Well, Moffat is the current Showrunner, and he has many plotholes. I'm sure RTD had his, and even Classic Who had a few, if any! So, it's not my fault that Moffat is a bad writer! Prove me otherwise, and start a Classic Who plothole thread, or a RTD plothole thread! Paul, it no-one's responsibility to "prove otherwise" to you. Your opinion that Moffat us a bad writer is your opinion. Other people have their opinions and are equally valid as yours. The fact that you seem to be unable to accept a different viewpoint is not helpful and is likely to break our rules (and therefore have action taken against you). This is said another member and not a Mod. If I have to put my Mod hat on it will be take action on this thread and anybody who breaks the rules. As for writing, all writers have good, bad, indifferent stories and are all guilty of leaving plot-holes. I am interested in all aspects of DW and am happy to debate plot-holes but not in a thread that is directed at one showrunner who doesn't match up in your view. There is no reason to have separate threads covering various writers/showrunner. One thread for "Plot-holes in Doctor Who" would be enough Cheers Tony Well, I can listen to other peoples views, but plotholes aren't views! They are gaps in a drama that can affect the story! Sure, all writers have good, bad, indifferent stories and are all guilty of leaving plot-holes, but Steven Moffat has ran a show since 2010, and there are huge gaps! If I started a thread that dealt with "Plot-holes in Doctor Who", 95% would be from the Steven Moffat era! Cheers Paul
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Mar 25, 2017 18:42:49 GMT
None of these are plot holes, in my opinion. 1. I had to think about what you were even talking about. You've actually got the wrong episode, that happened in The Caretaker. It was a little comical opening and isn't to be taken seriously. The escape happened off-screen. Just because it wasn't explained, doesn't make it a plot hole. Figure out an answer for yourself if you want. 2. Again, they just escaped between Name of the Doctor and Day of the Doctor. Just because it wasn't explained, doesn't make it a plot hole. 3. Both not mentioned. Again, just because it's not explained, doesn't make it a plot hole. Aside from the first one, which was a more of a throwaway scene, I'd say that these were left up to the audience or left up to Big Finish to fill the gaps if they so wanted. I would say especially so in the case of Missy - Moffat has mentioned on multiple occasions that he leaves gaps for Big Finish to exploit, I would say that unless it's mentioned in a future episode, he's probably left that intentionally unexplained so that Big Finish can do something with it if they so wish. God, was it The Caretaker? Cause The Heist has so many? How was the Doctor able to get into the Bank in the first place to aid the second robbery without being detected? There was no episode "off screen"! It was inside the same 45 minute episode/story! Both not mentioned, because Moffat couldn't explain it!
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Mar 25, 2017 19:29:47 GMT
Where did Captain Jack get the gun from Bad Wolf?
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Mar 25, 2017 19:30:07 GMT
Heaven Sent -
The Doctor paints the portrait of Clara, yet when the castle is reset, the painting is complete. Surely, after a reset, the canvas would be blank?
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Mar 25, 2017 19:31:33 GMT
Time Heist
Why didn't the Teller simply turn Madame Karabraxos's brain to soup, and rescue its mate itself? The Teller knew the vault combination!
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Mar 25, 2017 19:32:43 GMT
Time Heist
Why did Psi (think he had) sacrificed his life, when he was the one person that could erase his memories, and not be affected by the Teller?
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Mar 25, 2017 19:33:10 GMT
Time Heist
How did the Doctor know the location of the boxes inside the vault, and that they were items needed by his cohorts?
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Mar 25, 2017 19:34:08 GMT
Robot of Sherwood
How and when did the Doctor fit the homing device onto the target? The arrows had to home in on something!
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