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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Apr 29, 2017 9:14:19 GMT
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Post by sherlock on Apr 29, 2017 9:44:06 GMT
I'm sure they had their reasons, not sure what they would be though
On side note, Chibnall wrote the Takeaway sketches??
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Apr 29, 2017 9:45:13 GMT
I'm sure they had their reasons, not sure what they would be though On side note, Chibnall wrote the Takeaway sketches?? Yes, he wrote both Who Shot Simon Cowell and The Missing Crown Jewels.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2017 10:06:52 GMT
I'm sure they had their reasons, not sure what they would be though Chibnall's a good choice from a managerial production standpoint. He's had seven turns as a television producer to his name and doesn't have Gatiss's association with Sherlock which might be seen as too samey. Plus he has also worked as co-producer on Torchwood (a popular series related to Who), so there's a certain safety with having him aboard as well.
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Post by mark687 on Apr 29, 2017 10:08:08 GMT
Because I suspect he doesn't want the pressure, I mean at least Chibill understands what makes good drama in the general public's view, and Who fan criticisms so he should more suited to the job.
I read an earlier interview with Gatiss that said he doesn't even expect to be asked to write another TV EP ever anyway.
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Post by shutupbanks on Apr 29, 2017 10:15:54 GMT
I like Mr Gatiss' work but I fear he may ve a little too "niche" for producing Who.
Seriously, the biggest thjng in that story was the nugget about The League Of Gentleman!
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Post by sherlock on Apr 29, 2017 10:23:24 GMT
I'm sure they had their reasons, not sure what they would be though Chibnall's a good choice from a managerial production standpoint. He's had seven turns as a television producer to his name and doesn't have Gatiss's association with Sherlock which might be seen as too samey. Plus he has also worked as co-producer on Torchwood (a popular series related to Who), so there's a certain safety with having him aboard as well. True, I think overall Chibnall is the better choice.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Apr 29, 2017 10:26:53 GMT
Because I suspect he doesn't want the pressure, I mean at least Chibill understands what makes good drama in the general public's view, and Who fan criticisms so he should more suited to the job. I read an earlier interview with Gatiss that said he doesn't even expect to be asked to write another TV EP ever anyway. Regards mark687 Personally I'll be very disappointed if Chris Chibnall doesn't invite him as a guest at his writers' room at least once during his era. It would be a shame for such a great writer to not write again post-Moffat for Doctor Who.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2017 10:46:34 GMT
I think Mr Chibnall may well be more suited to showrunner status, than Mr Gatiss. It would be sad not to have any more Gatiss stories though - 'The Crimson Horror' in particular, is a favourite of mine. Possibly Mr Gatiss is too close to Mr Moffat for the 'new start' the BBC are hoping for Doctor Who?
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Apr 29, 2017 11:44:06 GMT
Last I checked, Gatiss has said in interviews he didn't want the showrunner job. If he said no publicly, what sense would it make to ask him again?
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Apr 29, 2017 12:26:05 GMT
I think Mr Chibnall may well be more suited to showrunner status, than Mr Gatiss. It would be sad not to have any more Gatiss stories though - 'The Crimson Horror' in particular, is a favourite of mine. Possibly Mr Gatiss is too close to Mr Moffat for the 'new start' the BBC are hoping for Doctor Who? I don't see how he's too close to Moffat. If's not like he's a co-showrunner on Doctor Who.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Apr 29, 2017 12:26:31 GMT
Last I checked, Gatiss has said in interviews he didn't want the showrunner job. If he said no publicly, what sense would it make to ask him again? He didn't say he would refuse here. Worth asking him I would have thought.
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Post by TinDogPodcast on Apr 29, 2017 12:34:31 GMT
I honestly thought he would have been offered the job...
Bur could his ego take the constant damage
It's a crap job. Like being England football manager
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2017 12:35:24 GMT
I think Mr Chibnall may well be more suited to showrunner status, than Mr Gatiss. It would be sad not to have any more Gatiss stories though - 'The Crimson Horror' in particular, is a favourite of mine. Possibly Mr Gatiss is too close to Mr Moffat for the 'new start' the BBC are hoping for Doctor Who? I don't see how he's too close to Moffat. If's not like he's a co-showrunner on Doctor Who. He and Moffat have been showrunners on Sherlock , and Gatiss has written more episodes under the present Doctor Who showrunner than anyone else, so I would guess the BBC consider him too close to Moffat for the new start they are hoping for Doctor Who. However, having discovered that Gatiss actually turned down the showrunner position, I would question the point of this thread. Not for the first time, both Moffat and the BBC are blamed for a situation that is not of their doing.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Apr 29, 2017 12:56:31 GMT
I honestly thought he would have been offered the job... Bur could his ego take the constant damage It's a crap job. Like being England football manager Doctor Who showrunner is my dream job. Handling the abuse would be hard, but it would be worth it to show the world your creative ideas in the huge sandbox that is Doctor Who.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Apr 29, 2017 13:00:52 GMT
I don't see how he's too close to Moffat. If's not like he's a co-showrunner on Doctor Who. He and Moffat have been showrunners on Sherlock , and Gatiss has written more episodes under the present Doctor Who showrunner than anyone else, so I would guess the BBC consider him too close to Moffat for the new start they are hoping for Doctor Who. However, having discovered that Gatiss actually turned down the showrunner position, I would question the point of this thread. Not for the first time, both Moffat and the BBC are blamed for a situation that is not of their doing. Sherlock's a different show though and I don't think how many episodes a writer has written under the departing showrunner should be taken into account. It's not really a proper indication of what their era would be like. I would expect Mark Gattis's Doctor Who would lose the dark fairytale of the Moffat era. It would probably be a gothic horror take on the show not to dissimilar to the Philip Hinchcliffe era. I could see why there could be danger there of Gatiss Who steering too close to Moffat Who given many Steven Moffat episodes are dark/scary, but I think Mark Gatiss is a skilled enough writer to make it feel like a different kind of horror to Steven Moffat's.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2017 13:11:27 GMT
He and Moffat have been showrunners on Sherlock , and Gatiss has written more episodes under the present Doctor Who showrunner than anyone else, so I would guess the BBC consider him too close to Moffat for the new start they are hoping for Doctor Who. However, having discovered that Gatiss actually turned down the showrunner position, I would question the point of this thread. Not for the first time, both Moffat and the BBC are blamed for a situation that is not of their doing. Sherlock's a different show though and I don't think how many episodes a writer has written under the departing showrunner should be taken into account. It's not really a proper indication of what their era would be like. What makes you think I don't understand that Sherlock is a different show? They still both worked together on it, and Gatiss has written more episodes under the present Doctor Who showrunner than anyone else, so there is a closeness there that I think the BBC is trying to stay away from for the new start they are hoping for Doctor Who. However, as Mark Gatiss has made it clear he doesn't want the job, a thread entitled 'What the hell, Moffat (and the BBC)', indicating he wasn't offered the job, has no bearing on reality.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2017 13:22:10 GMT
I'd argue Chibnalls record with Doctor Who is fine. Gatiss on the other hand comes bottom of many people's lists. Lots of hate goes around for Sleep no More and Robot of Sherwood in particular.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Apr 29, 2017 13:24:16 GMT
I'd argue Chibnalls record with Doctor Who is fine. Gatiss on the other hand comes bottom of many people's lists. Lots of hate goes around for Sleep no More and Robot of Sherwood in particular. If an episode is controversial then they are doing something right. The best episodes get people talking. You don't see many discussions of 42, but people are still talking about the likes of The Unquiet Dead or Victory of the Daleks.
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Post by sherlock on Apr 29, 2017 13:35:36 GMT
I'd argue Chibnalls record with Doctor Who is fine. Gatiss on the other hand comes bottom of many people's lists. Lots of hate goes around for Sleep no More and Robot of Sherwood in particular. If an episode is controversial then they are doing something right. The best episodes get people talking. You don't see many discussions of 42, but people are still talking about the likes of The Unquiet Dead or Victory of the Daleks. People talk about The Unquiet Dead? Never mind controversial some his episodes are actively hated, such as Sleep No More and Victory of the Daleks.
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