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Post by dalekbuster523finish on May 27, 2017 13:05:14 GMT
Wouldn't it be great if one of these music moguls organises a charity single for the Manchester victims?
I know similar things have been done in the past for tragic events and I think it would be lovely if something was done for the Manchester Attack. There's an Ariane Grande charity concert in the pipeline apparently but why not a single too?
I would certainly consider buying a cover of Imagine by John Lennon with various artists and bands joining in if the proceeds were to go for the injured kids and adults, and the famiiles of those who perished.
Anyone else agree?
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Post by jasonward on May 27, 2017 13:28:45 GMT
Wouldn't it be great if one of these music moguls organises a charity single for the Manchester victims? I know similar things have been done in the past for tragic events and I think it would be lovely if something was done for the Manchester Attack. There's an Ariane Grande charity concert in the pipeline apparently but why not a single too? I would certainly consider buying a cover of Imagine by John Lennon with various artists and bands joining in if the proceeds were to go for the injured kids and adults, and the famiiles of those who perished. Anyone else agree? I'd be a "no" by preference, the problem with charity singles is there are too many these days and they are often not that great, in terms of quality and choice of song/music the BBC's "Children in Need" (aka remind everyone how great the BBC is as were up for charter renewal) have all been the best by far, although each subsequent one has been poorer than it's predecessor. "Do They Know It's Christmas" was great in so much as it was first, and was part of a much larger phenomena which galvanised the music industry to make a difference in way never achieve before or since, but outside those few, the rest have been somewhere between forgettable and embarrassing. Also, the donations being made already are going to make all the financial difference that could ever be needed for the victims, the We Love Manchester fund has so far received £5m and I know the fund run by Manchester Police has received several very large anonymous donations. There is also the criminal injuries compensation fund. Then there is all the pubs, shops and other fund raising efforts already ongoing. Ariane Grande charity concert and so on. The families of those killed and the people injured will receive a lot of financial help, which is great, but two things strike me, money, no matter how large an amount will ever replace those lost, and secondly this should not be about making people wealthy, it should be about making people lives easier, taking away financial worries surrounding funeral costs and loss of income and making sure that people get the care and support they need to recover and live their lives. |
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Post by muckypup on May 27, 2017 17:29:54 GMT
to be honest I would say no also.......the charity single was well meaning and selfless in the 80's these days it often a way of self promoting.
I am already feeling that a good few artists are using this act of terrorism, to promote themselves.
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Post by charlesuirdhein on May 27, 2017 17:39:45 GMT
No. Just donate yourself.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on May 27, 2017 18:00:35 GMT
to be honest I would say no also.......the charity single was well meaning and selfless in the 80's these days it often a way of self promoting. I am already feeling that a good few artists are using this act of terrorism, to promote themselves. I think it's unfairly dehumanising them to suggest their motives are purely self promotion. It's also tarring every artist or band with the same brush. Some may use charity singles for self-promotion but I would like to believe that the majority do it because they care. Because they are human. Gary Barlow certainly cares when he records for charity, and I've no idea if Ariane Grande has done charity singles before but I'm sure if she did she would do it to help rather than to advertise herself. Her response to the awful events that took place in Manchester show her as a nice, well-meaning woman who wouldn't wish harm on anyone. The poor woman is also probably deeply traumatised so it would be perfectly understandable if she didn't feel able to join in in a hypothetical charity single. It's good that she has decided to hold a charity concert though. Her bravery in her decision to perform in Manchester again so soon shows that Ariane Grande is someone with a big heart regardless of what Piers Morgan or anyone else says about her. |
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Post by charlesuirdhein on May 27, 2017 18:11:30 GMT
to be honest I would say no also.......the charity single was well meaning and selfless in the 80's these days it often a way of self promoting. I am already feeling that a good few artists are using this act of terrorism, to promote themselves. I think it's unfairly dehumanising them to suggest their motives are purely self promotion. It's also tarring every artist or band with the same brush. Some may use charity singles for self-promotion but I would like to believe that the majority do it because they care. Because they are human. Gary Barlow certainly cares when he records for charity, and I've no idea if Ariane Grande has done charity singles before but I'm sure if she did she would do it to help rather than to advertise herself. Her response to the awful events that took place in Manchester show her as a nice, well-meaning woman who wouldn't wish harm on anyone. The poor woman is also probably deeply traumatised so it would be perfectly understandable if she didn't feel able to join in in a hypothetical charity single. It's good that she has decided to hold a charity concert though. Her bravery in her decision to perform in Manchester again so soon shows that Ariane Grande is someone with a big heart regardless of what Piers Morgan or anyone else says about her. Even if they're all philanthropic it's the public perception you have to deal with these days and we're much more cynical than we were in the 80s and so on. So for every singer who wants to help you have a Morgan who will try to tear them down, and the cause doesn't need that crap. So just donate. |
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on May 27, 2017 18:15:18 GMT
I think it's unfairly dehumanising them to suggest their motives are purely self promotion. It's also tarring every artist or band with the same brush. Some may use charity singles for self-promotion but I would like to believe that the majority do it because they care. Because they are human. Gary Barlow certainly cares when he records for charity, and I've no idea if Ariane Grande has done charity singles before but I'm sure if she did she would do it to help rather than to advertise herself. Her response to the awful events that took place in Manchester show her as a nice, well-meaning woman who wouldn't wish harm on anyone. The poor woman is also probably deeply traumatised so it would be perfectly understandable if she didn't feel able to join in in a hypothetical charity single. It's good that she has decided to hold a charity concert though. Her bravery in her decision to perform in Manchester again so soon shows that Ariane Grande is someone with a big heart regardless of what Piers Morgan or anyone else says about her. Even if they're all philanthropic it's the public perception you have to deal with these days and we're much more cynical than we were in the 80s and so on. So for every singer who wants to help you have a Morgan who will try to tear them down, and the cause doesn't need that crap. So just donate. Except most people agree that Piers Morgan is not a very nice man, to put it politely. |
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Post by charlesuirdhein on May 27, 2017 18:42:57 GMT
Even if they're all philanthropic it's the public perception you have to deal with these days and we're much more cynical than we were in the 80s and so on. So for every singer who wants to help you have a Morgan who will try to tear them down, and the cause doesn't need that crap. So just donate. Except most people agree that Piers Morgan is not a very nice man, to put it politely. WE do. But the odious creep has a large platform and following, and he's not the only git out there. I'm just using him as the obvious example. |
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Post by muckypup on May 27, 2017 19:58:18 GMT
to be honest I would say no also.......the charity single was well meaning and selfless in the 80's these days it often a way of self promoting. I am already feeling that a good few artists are using this act of terrorism, to promote themselves. I think it's unfairly dehumanising them to suggest their motives are purely self promotion. It's also tarring every artist or band with the same brush. Some may use charity singles for self-promotion but I would like to believe that the majority do it because they care. Because they are human. Gary Barlow certainly cares when he records for charity, and I've no idea if Ariane Grande has done charity singles before but I'm sure if she did she would do it to help rather than to advertise herself. Her response to the awful events that took place in Manchester show her as a nice, well-meaning woman who wouldn't wish harm on anyone. The poor woman is also probably deeply traumatised so it would be perfectly understandable if she didn't feel able to join in in a hypothetical charity single. It's good that she has decided to hold a charity concert though. Her bravery in her decision to perform in Manchester again so soon shows that Ariane Grande is someone with a big heart regardless of what Piers Morgan or anyone else says about her. maybe age has made me see things differently.....or made me more cynical and yes I am sure there is care & kindness from those involved, but there is those behind the scenes that are ready to cash in. the florists & supermarkets don't sell their flowers for the tributes at cost, there is always profit to be made by someone. just give the £1 you would pay for a "charity" track and cut out the middle men. hell, till this I had never heard of this grande woman....its funny how it has seen her music sales rise and her managements carefully worded tweets hitting the headlines everyday. I am not saying she is at all heartless, and its a terrible thing to happen to an artist, but those behind her will use it to her advantage. I am all for helping, but the older I get the more I realise that direct help is better than all the well meaning fund raising events. |
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Post by sherlock on May 27, 2017 20:10:41 GMT
Manchester attack: Ariana Grande plans benefit gig www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-40067159She's already planning stuff. I think a concert's a better choice than a single as holding another concert acts as a show of defiance as well as bringing in money for those that need it after this incident. Also a single can easily be construed as a self-publicising act, even if it's not intended that way, and with media hounds like the odious Morgan being quick to pounce on her, she probably doesn't want to risk that. |
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Post by ulyssessarcher on May 27, 2017 21:15:32 GMT
I don't know how charity singles actually work.
For the victim's of the Gatlinburg fires, Dolly performed a fundraiser concert. She gave email each a check for a thousand dollars for 5 months and one for 5 grand the final month.
So those things can help a lot financially, which is the last thing you would want to worry about at the moment.
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Post by Timelord007 on May 28, 2017 7:30:29 GMT
No to single, just donate like i did.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 16:14:15 GMT
People shouldn't need to get something in return for being charitable, otherwise it's not really charity.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on May 30, 2017 11:48:45 GMT
I say just donate or if it comes to it just re-release Dont Look Back in Anger, since that has become the anthem/rallying cry
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2017 12:35:16 GMT
I say just donate or if it comes to it just re-release Dont Look Back in Anger, since that has become the anthem/rallying cry That's a wonderful development and a brilliant idea, bit like how Sting's Russians became a low-key thing when the Cold War was ending. You know, with the immortal line of "The Russians love their children too." (As an aside: The Oasis music video has an appearance from Patrick MacNee as a chauffeur. Damn, I miss him.  ) |
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