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Post by doomlord on Jun 16, 2017 13:28:42 GMT
In all my years as a Doctor Who Fan, I have never seen anybody so obsessed with Pigbin Josh as much as you. I'm guessing The Claws of Axos is your favourite story, yes? I don't think a week goes by without you mentioning his name in relation to something or another, LOL. What is it about the guy that you like so much? No, it's not. I'm not actually obsessed with him, I just find his infamous status within fandom quite funny. Ah, I see. LOL, you do mention him a lot though, more than anyone I've ever read from. I just thought CoA might be your favourite story. Yes, I suppose PJ does have something infamous about him among 'Whovians'. A status that only a select few achieve, eh
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jun 16, 2017 13:45:38 GMT
No, it's not. I'm not actually obsessed with him, I just find his infamous status within fandom quite funny. Ah, I see. LOL, you do mention him a lot though, more than anyone I've ever read from. I just thought CoA might be your favourite story. Yes, I suppose PJ does have something infamous about him among 'Whovians'. A status that only a select few achieve, eh The only other background characters I can think of with that kind of status are the policeman from An Unearthly Child and Man With Chips.
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Post by constonks on Jun 16, 2017 14:29:17 GMT
Hey this is cool. Jacobi is a tour de force and I'm thrilled to finally have an announcement about more Gallifrey.
Note that we really haven't had that many Doctorless Master stories:
Mastermind (w/ Matheson & Sato) The Face of the Enemy (w/ UNIT, Ian & Barbara) (most of) Jago and Litefoot Vol. 11 Housewarming (Decalog 2, w/ Sarah, K9 & Mike) Character Assassin (backup comic in the Land of Fiction) Speech Day (a new series short story) Yes Missy (an annual tale, w/ Osgood)
Only two have them have starred no other recognisable characters, and I would say only Character Assassin has the Master as a protagonist (although I've not read any of the short stories).
So what I'm saying is this is quite an opportunity for BF to do something exciting and new.
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Post by aztec on Jun 16, 2017 16:05:57 GMT
Gallifrey time war and the War Master are hugely exciting...Tales Of New Earth on the other hand, is more surprising than anything, no doubt BF will do something interesting with the setting, but it wasn't something I'd even considered they'd do.
They've had the New Who license for what, 3 years now? and look at the amount of content/spinoffs they've already done or are considering, makes me wonder just how many BF Who stories there will be by 2025...
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Post by Digi on Jun 16, 2017 16:48:13 GMT
While I'm looking forward to these releases as much as everyone else, I am a bit concerned at the ratio of BF New Series output compared to the Classic Series Output, while all releases are excellent and I don't want to be that person that complains, but it'd be nice to have another classic series spin off, or even a Fifth Doctor Box Set 2 is surely long overdue, just something to show BF eye isn't firmly on the new series They're already doing about 50 hours a year on purely 'classic' DW, how much more do you want?
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Jun 16, 2017 17:23:17 GMT
I want to see BF explain why Ten didn't recognise him. The Arch planted false memories etc, but my opposition to this over the years has been that one sticking point, if they get over that I'm sold. I'm sold anyway because I've ordered the War Master set but that's no guarantee I'll buy a second.
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Post by sherlock on Jun 16, 2017 17:30:25 GMT
I want to see BF explain why Ten didn't recognise him. The Arch planted false memories etc, but my opposition to this over the years has been that one sticking point, if they get over that I'm sold. I'm sold anyway because I've ordered the War Master set but that's no guarantee I'll buy a second. Why does it need explaining? There's nothing currently to suggest the Doctor encountered the Jacobi Master before Utopia so there's no way he could recognise him.
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Post by Digi on Jun 16, 2017 17:33:50 GMT
I want to see BF explain why Ten didn't recognise him. The Arch planted false memories etc, but my opposition to this over the years has been that one sticking point, if they get over that I'm sold. I'm sold anyway because I've ordered the War Master set but that's no guarantee I'll buy a second. Why does it need explaining? There's nothing currently to suggest the Doctor encountered the Jacobi Master before Utopia so there's no way he could recognise him. Wasn't there a line somewhere about Time Lords being able to recognize each other right away? Or Tennant being able to 'feel' if there were any others out there or some such?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 17:37:01 GMT
Why does it need explaining? There's nothing currently to suggest the Doctor encountered the Jacobi Master before Utopia so there's no way he could recognise him. Wasn't there a line somewhere about Time Lords being able to recognize each other right away? Or Tennant being able to 'feel' if there were any others out there or some such? Yes but the Chameleon Arch suppresses a Time Lord's psychic spoor. That's why the family of blood couldn't find ten when he used it.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jun 16, 2017 17:37:21 GMT
Why does it need explaining? There's nothing currently to suggest the Doctor encountered the Jacobi Master before Utopia so there's no way he could recognise him. Wasn't there a line somewhere about Time Lords being able to recognize each other right away? Or Tennant being able to 'feel' if there were any others out there or some such? Professor Yana was fobwatched, and that probably disguises a Time Lord's ability to recognise another Time Lord. Although the Doctor didn't recognise Missy in Dark Water/Death In Heaven either...
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Post by sherlock on Jun 16, 2017 17:39:31 GMT
Why does it need explaining? There's nothing currently to suggest the Doctor encountered the Jacobi Master before Utopia so there's no way he could recognise him. Wasn't there a line somewhere about Time Lords being able to recognize each other right away? Or Tennant being able to 'feel' if there were any others out there or some such? The Doctor's been shown to fail at this elsewhere. He fails to recognise Missy in Dark Water {Spoiler} And the Master in UNIT: Dominion.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 18:08:32 GMT
Wasn't there a line somewhere about Time Lords being able to recognize each other right away? Or Tennant being able to 'feel' if there were any others out there or some such? The Doctor's been shown to fail at this elsewhere. He fails to recognise Missy in Dark Water {Spoiler} And the Master in UNIT: Dominion. Maybe his Time Lord sense doesn't work well because he's half-human. Ducks.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 20:05:03 GMT
They've had the New Who license for what, 3 years now? and look at the amount of content/spinoffs they've already done or are considering, makes me wonder just how many BF Who stories there will be by 2025... More than anything else I think they're just future proofing themselves as a company by going so heavily into New Who. I mean none of us want to think about it, but the truth is most of the classic bread and butter ranges that Big Finish produces, whether it be classic Who or Blake's 7 or Jago & Litefoot or whatever have stars that are getting well up there in years, and so when certain performers can't keep going for health or other reasons, or God forbid, when we lose them to the tides of time, then the diversity and stability of Big Finish's newer releases may well help keep their heads above water and powering ever onwards, whereas once upon a time the loss of just a few key actors over a short period of time could have taken not just an emotional toll, but a potentially dangerous financial one as well. I think Big Finish working so far ahead with certain ranges and actors, and banking stories, along with getting as many potentially viable new series oars in the water is only a good thing for us all in the long run, if we want to see Big Finish remain strong and prosperous. Also, it's probably a smart idea to experiment with new series releases now when everything is going well, and times are good, so they can find out what works and what doesn't, what the fans show interest in, and what they don't. Especially when we'll probably be waiting a long time, if ever, for some of the new series Doctors to make their audio débuts. Just my take on things, anyway.
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Post by ljwilson on Jun 16, 2017 22:08:55 GMT
They've had the New Who license for what, 3 years now? and look at the amount of content/spinoffs they've already done or are considering, makes me wonder just how many BF Who stories there will be by 2025... More than anything else I think they're just future proofing themselves as a company by going so heavily into New Who. I mean none of us want to think about it, but the truth is most of the classic bread and butter ranges that Big Finish produces, whether it be classic Who or Blake's 7 or Jago & Litefoot or whatever have stars that are getting well up there in years, and so when certain performers can't keep going for health or other reasons, or God forbid, when we lose them to the tides of time, then the diversity and stability of Big Finish's newer releases may well help keep their heads above water and powering ever onwards, whereas once upon a time the loss of just a few key actors over a short period of time could have taken not just an emotional toll, but a potentially dangerous financial one as well. I think Big Finish working so far ahead with certain ranges and actors, and banking stories, along with getting as many potentially viable new series oars in the water is only a good thing for us all in the long run, if we want to see Big Finish remain strong and prosperous. Also, it's probably a smart idea to experiment with new series releases now when everything is going well, and times are good, so they can find out what works and what doesn't, what the fans show interest in, and what they don't. Especially when we'll probably be waiting a long time, if ever, for some of the new series Doctors to make their audio débuts. Just my take on things, anyway. Yep, you are about spot on with that assessment I think. As a Doctor Who fan, but not a DW obsessive (no offence intended for anyone) I do think there is a bit too much 'Time War' content going on and being planned by BF at the moment, and frankly I'm bored of it already and not overly interested.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Jun 16, 2017 22:21:34 GMT
I get why Big Finish would be getting so heavily invested with the Time War. Initially it was a way to chart the course of another Doctor that had only made one TV appearance. With John Hurt's sad passing it still remains a area of the Who universe that more or less belongs to Big Finish to flesh out and tell stories in. We know how it ends but we know precious little else. For a war that raged across all time & space, that leaves a lot of room for BF to tell their own stories unbound from established TV continuity.
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Post by newt5996 on Jun 17, 2017 0:37:35 GMT
The Doctor's been shown to fail at this elsewhere. He fails to recognise Missy in Dark Water {Spoiler} And the Master in UNIT: Dominion. Maybe his Time Lord sense doesn't work well because he's half-human. Ducks. Throws bowl of petunias but misses due to blindness
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Post by Digi on Jun 17, 2017 4:13:20 GMT
They've had the New Who license for what, 3 years now? and look at the amount of content/spinoffs they've already done or are considering, makes me wonder just how many BF Who stories there will be by 2025... More than anything else I think they're just future proofing themselves as a company by going so heavily into New Who. I mean none of us want to think about it, but the truth is most of the classic bread and butter ranges that Big Finish produces, whether it be classic Who or Blake's 7 or Jago & Litefoot or whatever have stars that are getting well up there in years, and so when certain performers can't keep going for health or other reasons, or God forbid, when we lose them to the tides of time, then the diversity and stability of Big Finish's newer releases may well help keep their heads above water and powering ever onwards, whereas once upon a time the loss of just a few key actors over a short period of time could have taken not just an emotional toll, but a potentially dangerous financial one as well. I think Big Finish working so far ahead with certain ranges and actors, and banking stories, along with getting as many potentially viable new series oars in the water is only a good thing for us all in the long run, if we want to see Big Finish remain strong and prosperous. Also, it's probably a smart idea to experiment with new series releases now when everything is going well, and times are good, so they can find out what works and what doesn't, what the fans show interest in, and what they don't. Especially when we'll probably be waiting a long time, if ever, for some of the new series Doctors to make their audio débuts. Just my take on things, anyway. Oh I think you're 100% on target there. Most of the core (ie: Doctors, Companions) actors are already in their 70s or 80s (and then there's William Russell still ticking along in his 90s!). If they want their business to still be operational in another 10 years, they need to plan for the cold hard facts. And I think you're quite correct that 'testing the waters' and experimentation are exactly what they're doing here in order to keep their business viable.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jun 17, 2017 9:30:03 GMT
More than anything else I think they're just future proofing themselves as a company by going so heavily into New Who. I mean none of us want to think about it, but the truth is most of the classic bread and butter ranges that Big Finish produces, whether it be classic Who or Blake's 7 or Jago & Litefoot or whatever have stars that are getting well up there in years, and so when certain performers can't keep going for health or other reasons, or God forbid, when we lose them to the tides of time, then the diversity and stability of Big Finish's newer releases may well help keep their heads above water and powering ever onwards, whereas once upon a time the loss of just a few key actors over a short period of time could have taken not just an emotional toll, but a potentially dangerous financial one as well. I think Big Finish working so far ahead with certain ranges and actors, and banking stories, along with getting as many potentially viable new series oars in the water is only a good thing for us all in the long run, if we want to see Big Finish remain strong and prosperous. Also, it's probably a smart idea to experiment with new series releases now when everything is going well, and times are good, so they can find out what works and what doesn't, what the fans show interest in, and what they don't. Especially when we'll probably be waiting a long time, if ever, for some of the new series Doctors to make their audio débuts. Just my take on things, anyway. Yep, you are about spot on with that assessment I think. As a Doctor Who fan, but not a DW obsessive (no offence intended for anyone) I do think there is a bit too much 'Time War' content going on and being planned by BF at the moment, and frankly I'm bored of it already and not overly interested. I disagree. There is a lot of Time War content but that I love that there is because it's such a rich and largely unexplored part of the show's mythology.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2017 10:04:51 GMT
More than anything else I think they're just future proofing themselves as a company by going so heavily into New Who. I mean none of us want to think about it, but the truth is most of the classic bread and butter ranges that Big Finish produces, whether it be classic Who or Blake's 7 or Jago & Litefoot or whatever have stars that are getting well up there in years, and so when certain performers can't keep going for health or other reasons, or God forbid, when we lose them to the tides of time, then the diversity and stability of Big Finish's newer releases may well help keep their heads above water and powering ever onwards, whereas once upon a time the loss of just a few key actors over a short period of time could have taken not just an emotional toll, but a potentially dangerous financial one as well. I think Big Finish working so far ahead with certain ranges and actors, and banking stories, along with getting as many potentially viable new series oars in the water is only a good thing for us all in the long run, if we want to see Big Finish remain strong and prosperous. Also, it's probably a smart idea to experiment with new series releases now when everything is going well, and times are good, so they can find out what works and what doesn't, what the fans show interest in, and what they don't. Especially when we'll probably be waiting a long time, if ever, for some of the new series Doctors to make their audio débuts. Just my take on things, anyway. Yep, you are about spot on with that assessment I think. As a Doctor Who fan, but not a DW obsessive (no offence intended for anyone) I do think there is a bit too much 'Time War' content going on and being planned by BF at the moment, and frankly I'm bored of it already and not overly interested. And that's fine. There plenty of other ranges for you to enjoy instead.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2017 10:13:01 GMT
I, too, am firmly in the group that really thinks that the Time War was better as 'this legendary battle only spoken of in hushed tones'. Having said that, I've collected The War Doctor stories and enjoyed most of them - the inclusion of John Hurt being a very persuasive inclusion - and have the first Paul McGann Time War tale on pre-order. Other than that, I think I'll wait for the reviews. And yes, BF are concentrating a lot on the Time War at the moment, but it only features in a fraction of their output on the whole. We can't all enjoy everything!
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