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Post by number13 on Jul 16, 2017 23:34:37 GMT
One. We are into Series 11 now, with enough specials and so on for it to be actually 12, so could we finally, finally have a Nick Briggs Dalek script? As far as this listener/viewer is concerned not a single post 2005 TV Dalek story (including Dalek) is as good as Nick's when he's on form. Yes please. There are many BF writers I could suggest but I think that when this has come up before the answer has been that 'TV people' are unwilling to commission / hire 'non-TV' writers'? But there must be many writers who have written for radio and TV so why not audio and TV? And BF writers have to be at least as good at story-telling because they don't have CGI to cover for them. Have you ever liked any of Malcolm Hulke's stories? Because I can guarantee that if he was still with us he'd be writing scripts that were to the left of Jeremy Corbyn. Seriously, I doubt that. He was apparently a Communist in earlier life but his wonderful Third Doctor stories contain very mild Socialism at most and a wish that different peoples could live together in peace, hardly controversial. His most political story is 'Invasion of the Dinosaurs' and there he has just as much of a go at the obsessive collectivists on the 'spaceship' as he does at the ultra-greens and establishment authoritarians who put them there.
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Jul 16, 2017 23:44:50 GMT
Or John Dorney for god's sake.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 0:47:41 GMT
I miss the days of Robert Holmes using Doctor Who as a platform to bitch about taxes. Everyone could agree with that! Honestly, I just miss the days of Robert Holmes. I don't think you're alone there. Marc Platt, Alan Barnes, John Dorney, who else...? There are quite a number of writers now that have tried to emulate everything from his ever-flexible formula to his patter and while doing so, each have brought something new to the fold as well. Have you ever liked any of Malcolm Hulke's stories? Because I can guarantee that if he was still with us he'd be writing scripts that were to the left of Jeremy Corbyn. Seriously, I doubt that. He was apparently a Communist in earlier life but his wonderful Third Doctor stories contain very mild Socialism at most and a wish that different peoples could live together in peace, hardly controversial. His most political story is 'Invasion of the Dinosaurs' and there he has just as much of a go at the obsessive collectivists on the 'spaceship' as he does at the ultra-greens and establishment authoritarians who put them there. Well, it's that line from the Doctor in Frontier in Space, isn't it? I think that's the great secret of Hulke's scripts, everyone has a point and the ideologies are understandable, if not relatable. The Draconian Prince comes from a society where females are considered a lower class all of their own. Doesn't stop him from pledging his support to the President of Earth and treating her with the utmost respect though. Hulke would've had a go at everyone -- the Trumpeteers, the alt-Left, the centrists, etc.
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Post by seeley on Jul 17, 2017 1:04:46 GMT
Wait, has Chibnall said he won't be using any previous writers?
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Post by stcoop on Jul 17, 2017 1:10:42 GMT
Wait, has Chibnall said he won't be using any previous writers? He seems to be planning a (long overdue) complete overhaul, so I wouldn't be surprised if we had a clean slate. A lot of the behind-the-scenes people seem to be leaving along with Moffat.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 1:21:43 GMT
Wait, has Chibnall said he won't be using any previous writers? He seems to be planning a (long overdue) complete overhaul, so I wouldn't be surprised if we had a clean slate. A lot of the behind-the-scenes people seem to be leaving along with Moffat. Mmm, it's a really exciting time. The end of an era in more ways than just the departure of a current producer. In the programme's thirteenth year with its Thirteenth Doctor, NuWho is probably going to end up looking like we've never seen it before.
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Post by seeley on Jul 17, 2017 1:22:28 GMT
They've both worked on spinoffs, but Joe Lidster and P.J. Hammond are long overdue for writing for the show proper.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Jul 17, 2017 8:26:30 GMT
One. We are into Series 11 now, with enough specials and so on for it to be actually 12, so could we finally, finally have a Nick Briggs Dalek script? As far as this listener/viewer is concerned not a single post 2005 TV Dalek story (including Dalek) is as good as Nick's when he's on form. Yes please. There are many BF writers I could suggest but I think that when this has come up before the answer has been that 'TV people' are unwilling to commission / hire 'non-TV' writers'? But there must be many writers who have written for radio and TV so why not audio and TV? And BF writers have to be at least as good at story-telling because they don't have CGI to cover for them. This discussion was covered at length elsewhere, and with help from Johnny Morris no less: notthebigfinishforum.freeforums.net/thread/2210/johnathan-morris-explains-writers-nuwhoIn short, it's not about talent, it's about how finicky and anal television is.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Jul 17, 2017 11:13:32 GMT
I cant think of any new British writers, but I would love for Robert Hewitt Wolfe and J. Michael Straczynski to write an episode or two each
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Post by jasonward on Jul 17, 2017 12:27:26 GMT
Social Justice Warrior. Definitions of the term and connotations of it's usage vary dramatically by political perspective. And there was me thinking (and I'm not joking) that it meant Sarah Jane Writers, it was the only thing I could think of in context.
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Post by tordred on Jul 17, 2017 14:25:27 GMT
One. We are into Series 11 now, with enough specials and so on for it to be actually 12, so could we finally, finally have a Nick Briggs Dalek script? As far as this listener/viewer is concerned not a single post 2005 TV Dalek story (including Dalek) is as good as Nick's when he's on form. Yes please. There are many BF writers I could suggest but I think that when this has come up before the answer has been that 'TV people' are unwilling to commission / hire 'non-TV' writers'? But there must be many writers who have written for radio and TV so why not audio and TV? And BF writers have to be at least as good at story-telling because they don't have CGI to cover for them. It's crazy to think that in Chris Eccleston's season, 3/5 of the writers were Big Finish regulars (the exceptions being RTD and Moffat)
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Post by J.A. Prentice on Jul 17, 2017 16:29:03 GMT
I think Marc Platt, Ben Aaronovitch, Rona Munro, John Dorney, Sarah Dollard, Jamie Mathieson, and a few fresh names might make a good team.
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Post by tordred on Jul 17, 2017 16:44:23 GMT
I think Marc Platt, Ben Aaronovitch, Rona Munro, John Dorney, Sarah Dollard, Jamie Mathieson, and a few fresh names might make a good team. At that point you might as well throw Ian Briggs in, complete the season 26 set.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jul 17, 2017 21:12:23 GMT
My dream writing team would be:
JK Rowling Alex Scarrow Anthony Horowitz Joss Whedon Sarah Phelps
That's never going to happen though.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Oct 14, 2017 22:27:04 GMT
In light of the writer's room necessitating writers of a particular price range, we could see some of the B and C list Who writers with TV credits get some possible love.
Joe Lidster, Clayton Hickman, PJ Hammond, John Fay.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Oct 14, 2017 22:28:47 GMT
In light of the writer's room necessitating writers of a particular price range, we could see some of the B and C list Who writers with TV credits get some possible love. Joe Lidster, Clayton Hickman, PJ Hammond, John Fay. I can't imagine Clayton Hickman would agree to write for the show at the moment. He's had a major falling out with the BBC because they rejected his design for the standard Shada releases at last minute when he'd already been working on it for months.
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Post by themeddlingmonk on Oct 14, 2017 22:47:27 GMT
Rob Shearman, John Dorney, Jamie Mathieson and even Phillip Hinchcliffe (after the quality of those Hinchcliffe Presents sets) would be high on my list of writers to be involved. I honestly think that the only writer from the last few Series who really deserves to come back is Jamie Mathieson, as he’s written three brilliant scripts and one alright one (with Moffat) which is better than most do.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Oct 14, 2017 22:51:25 GMT
Rob Shearman, John Dorney, Jamie Mathieson and even Phillip Hinchcliffe (after the quality of those Hinchcliffe Presents sets) would be high on my list of writers to be involved. I honestly think that the only writer from the last few Series who really deserves to come back is Jamie Mathieson, as he’s written three brilliant scripts and one alright one (with Moffat) which is better than most do. Mark Gatiss totally needs to come back also. He was the Moffat era's Moffat.
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Post by themeddlingmonk on Oct 14, 2017 23:18:28 GMT
Rob Shearman, John Dorney, Jamie Mathieson and even Phillip Hinchcliffe (after the quality of those Hinchcliffe Presents sets) would be high on my list of writers to be involved. I honestly think that the only writer from the last few Series who really deserves to come back is Jamie Mathieson, as he’s written three brilliant scripts and one alright one (with Moffat) which is better than most do. Mark Gatiss totally needs to come back also. He was the Moffat era's Moffat. I actually strongly disagree with both of your statements. I wouldn’t mind seeing Gatiss back again but he’s certainly not a must and certainly isn’t the Moffat eras Moffat. The only really good stories he’s written (at least in my eyes) are The Unquiet Dead and The Empress of Mars. That’s not to say that his other stories are awful, but they’re mostly just really mediocre and waste good ideas. I do really enjoy the Crimson Horror and Robot of Sherwood though they can’t really be considered objectively good stories. I’d like to see him back again, but I definitely don’t think he deserves to come back over other writers like Sarah Dollard.
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Post by tordred on Oct 15, 2017 0:48:09 GMT
In light of the writer's room necessitating writers of a particular price range, we could see some of the B and C list Who writers with TV credits get some possible love. Joe Lidster, Clayton Hickman, PJ Hammond, John Fay. Hammond would be amazing!
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