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Post by constonks on Aug 10, 2017 18:28:59 GMT
Wild theory here - and I'm not even sure it makes a whole lot of sense - but a quick Google has proved I'm not the only one to think of it: Are the hints to Nardole's past in Series 10 meant to indicate that he's secretly Dorium Maldovar?
I mean, I don't really think his personality in Husbands of River Song quite matches Dorium, but then again, 2015 Nardole barely matches 2017 Nardole. He could even become Dorium in future if he really does go back to being blue. It might even explain the Nightmare-in-Silver-era Cyberman head on sale at the Maldovarium, but that might be stretching things a bit.
Honestly, I'm not even sold on the idea being a good one, I'm just wondering if it's all a coincidence or not... (What is it the Eighth Doctor said about humans and patterns again?)
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Post by Faith on Aug 10, 2017 18:34:49 GMT
I love humans, always seeing patterns where they don't exist. Or something along those lines.
I'm not certain if correlation is equivalent to causation here, so to speak, but I do love the theory. Perhaps it's meant to allow those of us who wish to believe to have enough evidence to do so, without jumping all the way to 'THIS IS THE TRUTH'.
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Post by Ela on Aug 11, 2017 3:02:19 GMT
No.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2017 5:32:05 GMT
I'm going with yes. I like this theory.
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Post by omega on Aug 11, 2017 6:48:39 GMT
I think BBC Books are in the process of making a Nardole collection about his past. Anyway, you can have background references to stories not chronicled. Just wait until Big Finish give Nardole a spin-off. That'll explain it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2017 9:38:41 GMT
And they've both lost their heads.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2017 9:41:12 GMT
And they've both lost their heads. Actually they've both lost their bodies. |
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Post by number13 on Aug 11, 2017 10:32:43 GMT
I think BBC Books are in the process of making a Nardole collection about his past. Anyway, you can have background references to stories not chronicled. Just wait until Big Finish give Nardole a spin-off. That'll explain it. Yes please, and/or Bill too. The Twelfth Doctor Companion Chronicles. I know it's not as easy as just wishing, but when the licence, availability etc. allows, this would be a great spin-off. We have pre-order money waiting...  Extra (semi-serious) thought: since Bill and Nardole are both (we think) out of the TV series now, wouldn't they make a great pairing for their own full cast range? 'Exposition and Comic Relief'  the Inter-Dimensional Investigators! (Thanks to quantum-shifting Bill.) Part anywhere-goes-adventure and of course part comedy; they mean well and would do their best, but without the Doctor's experience the road to success could be entertainingly bumpy! |
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Post by jasonward on Aug 11, 2017 10:49:10 GMT
Wild theory here - and I'm not even sure it makes a whole lot of sense - but a quick Google has proved I'm not the only one to think of it: Are the hints to Nardole's past in Series 10 meant to indicate that he's secretly Dorium Maldovar? I mean, I don't really think his personality in Husbands of River Song quite matches Dorium, but then again, 2015 Nardole barely matches 2017 Nardole. He could even become Dorium in future if he really does go back to being blue. It might even explain the Nightmare-in-Silver-era Cyberman head on sale at the Maldovarium, but that might be stretching things a bit. Honestly, I'm not even sold on the idea being a good one, I'm just wondering if it's all a coincidence or not... (What is it the Eighth Doctor said about humans and patterns again?) I like this idea because it adds the mythos of Who. I dislike this because I never liked Dorium Maldovar as a character. But the main thing that sticks in my mind, is that I always got the impression that Nardole was at least part machine. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2017 11:10:43 GMT
Nardole is one of the great unexplored characters in Doctor Who, I think. I too get the impression he is at least part machine - not wholly so, because some of his lines would seem to contradict this (his use of the TARDIS toilets for one!). Dorium, too, is only vaguely skatched as a character.
They're both chunkily built, both male, both have bald heads and both parted from their heads (or bodies, whichever way you look at it). I don't think they were intended to be the same character. And yet I love the theory. I am also pretty sure Nardole's story could be successfully and enjoyably explored by Big Finish - partly because he is a very interesting character, and partly because Matt Lucasis brilliant in the role.
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Post by omega on Aug 11, 2017 11:13:31 GMT
Nardole is one of the great unexplored characters in Doctor Who, I think. I too get the impression he is at least part machine - not wholly so, because some of his lines would seem to contradict this ( his use of the TARDIS toilets for one!). Dorium, too, is only vaguely skatched as a character. They're both chunkily built, both male, both have bald heads and both parted from their heads (or bodies, whichever way you look at it). I don't think they were intended to be the same character. And yet I love the theory. I am also pretty sure Nardole's story could be successfully and enjoyably explored by Big Finish - partly because he is a very interesting character, and partly because Matt Lucasis briliant in the role. In the novel Diamond Dogs the Doctor justifies nicking a diamond to Bill as covering expenses (apparently Nardole uses a lot of toilet paper), not to mention there's millions from where that came from anyway. |
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Post by constonks on Aug 11, 2017 15:08:29 GMT
I too get the impression he is at least part machine - not wholly so, because some of his lines would seem to contradict this (his use of the TARDIS toilets for one!). One of his arms is definitely a machine arm - a component falls from it in The Pilot - and I'd say his entire body is artificial or some sort of Frankenstein conglomeration (he mentions getting his lungs cheap at one point, and as mentioned, swapped his face while on the run). I think whoever he is, he's probably got nothing of his original body left (well, maybe the brain). |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2017 17:24:07 GMT
I too get the impression he is at least part machine - not wholly so, because some of his lines would seem to contradict this (his use of the TARDIS toilets for one!). One of his arms is definitely a machine arm - a component falls from it in The Pilot - and I'd say his entire body is artificial or some sort of Frankenstein conglomeration (he mentions getting his lungs cheap at one point, and as mentioned, swapped his face while on the run). I think whoever he is, he's probably got nothing of his original body left (well, maybe the brain). Well at the end of Husbands of River Song he is reduced to only a head. It's mentioned in series 10 that River got the Doctor to build him a replacement body so she could assign Nardole as the Doctor's companion. It was the Doctor who said he got the lungs cheap. |
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Post by aemiliapaula on Aug 11, 2017 19:59:46 GMT
In the novel Diamond Dogs the Doctor justifies nicking a diamond to Bill as covering expenses (apparently Nardole uses a lot of toilet paper), not to mention there's millions from where that came from anyway. I just read this book and really liked it, but that part didn't make sense to me. Wouldn't the University pay him something for lecturing? |
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Post by aemiliapaula on Aug 11, 2017 20:00:58 GMT
I'd like to know the story behind when Nardole was late with the TARDIS and said he was ruling Byzantium!
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Post by omega on Aug 11, 2017 20:40:32 GMT
In the novel Diamond Dogs the Doctor justifies nicking a diamond to Bill as covering expenses (apparently Nardole uses a lot of toilet paper), not to mention there's millions from where that came from anyway. I just read this book and really liked it, but that part didn't make sense to me. Wouldn't the University pay him something for lecturing? Cutting down or costs or Nardole really does go through toilet paper like Nobody No One's business. |
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Post by aemiliapaula on Aug 11, 2017 20:48:33 GMT
Well I've been a TA at a university, they don't pay you a lot! Maybe it's not enough for the Doctor and Nardole as well...
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Post by mrperson on Aug 11, 2017 21:32:36 GMT
Err....well Dorium's head is all fat and blue, sitting in some crypt or other.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2017 23:36:44 GMT
In the novel Diamond Dogs the Doctor justifies nicking a diamond to Bill as covering expenses (apparently Nardole uses a lot of toilet paper), not to mention there's millions from where that came from anyway. I just read this book and really liked it, but that part didn't make sense to me. Wouldn't the University pay him something for lecturing? Depends if he's on the payroll or not. I've started wondering whether it's an I.M. Foreman situation, if there's something else going on with the University Chancellor (or maybe even a genius loci in the University itself) that we're currently unaware of. |
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the Inter-Dimensional Investigators! (Thanks to quantum-shifting Bill.) Part anywhere-goes-adventure and of course part comedy; they mean well and would do their best, but without the Doctor's experience the road to success could be entertainingly bumpy!
