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Post by mark687 on Aug 13, 2017 11:39:22 GMT
Could someone please explain why and if they'd prefer BF to use the Audable Model because I can't see an advantage surely by doing this your paying for stuff you've already bought plus any new stuff that year on a monthly basis infinitely ?
To be clear BF AREN'T contemplating it ATM!
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Post by jasonward on Aug 13, 2017 11:53:25 GMT
Could someone please explain why and if they'd prefer BF to use the Audable Model because I can't see an advantage surely by doing this your paying for stuff you've already bought plus any new stuff that year on a monthly basis infinitely ?
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mark687 I presume you mean Audible the Amazon company? If so, who is asking for an Audible like service? Because if BF went that route, depending on how like Audible they were, I would stop purchasing immediately.
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Post by fingersmash on Aug 13, 2017 12:02:15 GMT
Could someone please explain why and if they'd prefer BF to use the Audable Model because I can't see an advantage surely by doing this your paying for stuff you've already bought plus any new stuff that year on a monthly basis infinitely ?
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mark687 I presume you mean Audible the Amazon company? If so, who is asking for an Audible like service? Because if BF went that route, depending on how like Audible they were, I would stop purchasing immediately. This. I have no desire to see BF turn into audible.
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Post by mark687 on Aug 13, 2017 12:03:18 GMT
Its been in several Podcast Email sections including this weeks and like you I wouldn't utilize it because I can't see an advantage to either customer or company.
To be clear BF AREN'T contemplating it! Regards
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 12:07:43 GMT
Yuck. One of the big things I like about Big Finish is that they don't have ludicrously repressive Audible coding on their releases. Every time something was purchased on Audible (and it was only twice), it felt like trying to feel your way through a straitjacket.
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Post by jasonward on Aug 13, 2017 12:11:26 GMT
Its been in several Podcast Email sections including this weeks and like you I wouldn't utilize it because I can't see an advantage to either customer or company. Regards mark687 Perhaps I'm out of touch with how Audible now works, but don't you still purchase your chosen items, pay for them (either as one offs or via subscription) and then download them? The main differences (as I understand them) between Audible and BF is the use of DRM by the former and that a subscription at BF buys you a fixed range of audio's whereas Audibles subscription is more flexible. But I would 100% trade Audibles flexibility for no DRM, every day, all day, all the time, forever.
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Post by Bazoolium on Aug 13, 2017 12:48:18 GMT
I think some people want a subscription service, so more akin to netflix than Audible. I can't see BF doing it though, they probably don't have the listenership to make it profitable.
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Post by barnabaslives on Aug 13, 2017 12:54:16 GMT
Haven't heard the podcast yet, but being that my impression of Audible is sort of a mixed bag of the best and the worst, does anyone know exactly what is meant by "Audible-like"? If it means you can purchase credits at a discount and spend them however you like, or some kind of download manager, perhaps that's friendlier for some customers? If it means providing cr*p quality audios that you can't get the clearance to play on your machine because of the absurd, exclusive, paranoid file formats - and then frequently adding an egregious mark-up to the price tag - no thanks! (At present the only thing I can get Audible to play on is my Kindle, which is now therefore too full of Audible downloads for there to be any point in continued patronage of Audible). I'm really hoping Big Finish means like Audible in a good way, but this thread is starting to scare me.
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Post by mark687 on Aug 13, 2017 13:16:48 GMT
Haven't heard the podcast yet, but being that my impression of Audible is sort of a mixed bag of the best and the worst, does anyone know exactly what is meant by "Audible-like"? If it means you can purchase credits at a discount and spend them however you like, or some kind of download manager, perhaps that's friendlier for some customers? If it means providing cr*p quality audios that you can't get the clearance to play on your machine because of the absurd, exclusive, paranoid file formats - and then frequently adding an egregious mark-up to the price tag - no thanks! (At present the only thing I can get Audible to play on is my Kindle, which is now therefore too full of Audible downloads for there to be any point in continued patronage of Audible). I'm really hoping Big Finish means like Audible in a good way, but this thread is starting to scare me. So there's no monthly/yearly subscription or minimal purchase charge with Audible then to maintain access to your purchases?
( BF are NOT even thinking about it ATM Apologies for scaring you)
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Post by mark687 on Aug 13, 2017 13:32:05 GMT
I think some people want a subscription service, so more akin to netflix than Audible. I can't see BF doing it though, they probably don't have the listenership to make it profitable. Well the Netflix Model would definitely kill the business of production from BF so that won't happen.
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Post by jasonward on Aug 13, 2017 13:34:23 GMT
Haven't heard the podcast yet, but being that my impression of Audible is sort of a mixed bag of the best and the worst, does anyone know exactly what is meant by "Audible-like"? If it means you can purchase credits at a discount and spend them however you like, or some kind of download manager, perhaps that's friendlier for some customers? If it means providing cr*p quality audios that you can't get the clearance to play on your machine because of the absurd, exclusive, paranoid file formats - and then frequently adding an egregious mark-up to the price tag - no thanks! (At present the only thing I can get Audible to play on is my Kindle, which is now therefore too full of Audible downloads for there to be any point in continued patronage of Audible). I'm really hoping Big Finish means like Audible in a good way, but this thread is starting to scare me. So there's no monthly/yearly subscription or minimal purchase charge with Audible then to maintain access to your purchases?
( BF are NOT even thinking about it Apologies for scaring you)
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Checked the audible site, they are membership only as far as I can tell, that membership can renew monthly or annually. From experience you get to keep what you purchased with your "credits" once your membership expires, but of course subject to the DRM restrictions and so long Audible stay in business and keep their DRM servers running etc etc.
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Post by mark687 on Aug 13, 2017 13:45:08 GMT
So there's no monthly/yearly subscription or minimal purchase charge with Audible then to maintain access to your purchases?
( BF are NOT even thinking about it Apologies for scaring you)
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Checked the audible site, they are membership only as far as I can tell, that membership can renew monthly or annually. From experience you get to keep what you purchased with your "credits" once your membership expires, but of course subject to the DRM restrictions and so long Audible stay in business and keep their DRM servers running etc etc. You can keep them in an Audible online account for re-download without an active subscription?
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Post by jasonward on Aug 13, 2017 13:47:01 GMT
Checked the audible site, they are membership only as far as I can tell, that membership can renew monthly or annually. From experience you get to keep what you purchased with your "credits" once your membership expires, but of course subject to the DRM restrictions and so long Audible stay in business and keep their DRM servers running etc etc. Keep them in an Audible online account for re-download you mean?
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Not that I know, no, but I'm having to rely on my experience of them many years ago, plus what I can learn from their website.
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Post by glutamodo on Aug 13, 2017 13:56:51 GMT
I've bought several titles from Audible - but all of them outright. I've never had a membership and don't have any plans to do so.
Not long ago I re-downloaded my first purchase from Audible - something from a couple of years ago and had no problems doing so.
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Post by jasonward on Aug 13, 2017 14:00:56 GMT
I've bought several titles from Audible - but all of them outright. I've never had a membership and don't have any plans to do so. Not long ago I re-downloaded my first purchase from Audible - something from a couple of years ago and had no problems doing so. Interesting, from their public facing website you wouldn't know one off purchases were a thing.
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Post by Bazoolium on Aug 13, 2017 14:09:01 GMT
I've bought several titles from Audible - but all of them outright. I've never had a membership and don't have any plans to do so. Not long ago I re-downloaded my first purchase from Audible - something from a couple of years ago and had no problems doing so. Was that not horrificly overpriced?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 14:15:19 GMT
Audible has very low quality encodes with no truly high quality options available (despite what they claim), which you can just about get away with for straight audiobook readings, but anything more complex, sound wise, sounds pretty terrible, even at their highest available quality. They also have some of the worst DRM around. If Big Finish ever went down that ramp, either by using Audible as their distribution hub, or by creating their own similar service, they'd certainly lose me as a customer.
Personally I think the way that Big Finish creates and distributes their digital content is about as good as it gets, and so Big Finish (and Bafflegab via Bandcamp, and other smaller players who do things similarly) are already well and truly leading the field as far as this kind of thing goes, and so I'd hate to see them take a step backwards, which to me is what Audible very much represents.
The only thing Audible has going for it (and admittedly, it's a big thing, particularly for those who don't care about sound quality) is the size of their library. But on every other front, I find them very weak indeed, despite their popularity and market dominance (let's face it, most people put convenience well in front of quality, as much as it may depress me), so personally I hope Big Finish stays as far away from both Audible and the Audible model long into the future. Besides which, I don't see how BF could use such a model and remain viable long term anyway.
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Post by mark687 on Aug 13, 2017 14:49:12 GMT
So we're all agreed it would be a bad idea?
It just puzzles me the amount of VORTEX and Podcast letters that start "I love your Audios but would prefer an Audible/ Netflix style service where I'd pay less but for longer for products."
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 15:10:04 GMT
I think it could work for them to say an annual subscription gets you 26 credits and you could you use those for any titles at 1 credit per disc. Assuming everything else stays the same of course, i.e. drm free, choice of CD or download, mp3 or audiobook.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 15:13:09 GMT
I've bought several titles from Audible - but all of them outright. I've never had a membership and don't have any plans to do so. Not long ago I re-downloaded my first purchase from Audible - something from a couple of years ago and had no problems doing so. I do subscribe to Audible. You still buy all your titles outright, but using credits, which are very very cheap (from 4.50 to 7.99 depending on your plan). I own these outright and can burn them onto CD via itunes so even if Amazon went out of business I would still have my purchases.
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