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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Nov 13, 2017 15:40:36 GMT
I think Peter Davison would have had something to say! He was the star of all the episodes at the time. He could have played a supporting role for one episode. "Okay, Peter. You're going to be one of the stars in the twentieth anniversary special, but instead of you being the lead of what is now your show Tom Baker will be in the starring role..." I really find it hard to imagine Peter Davison - or any current Doctor in that scenario of the previous one becoming the lead again - agreeing to that.
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Post by acousticwolf on Nov 13, 2017 16:20:02 GMT
He was the star of all the episodes at the time. He could have played a supporting role for one episode. "Okay, Peter. You're going to be one of the stars in the twentieth anniversary special, but instead of you being the lead of what is now your show Tom Baker will be in the starring role..." I really find it hard to imagine Peter Davison - or any current Doctor in that scenario of the previous one becoming the lead again - agreeing to that. I find myself in agreement here. As much as I love Tom/Four, Peter was the incumbent Doctor at the time and I can't imagine him being prepared to step aside as the lead. Cheers Tony
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Nov 13, 2017 19:17:36 GMT
"Okay, Peter. You're going to be one of the stars in the twentieth anniversary special, but instead of you being the lead of what is now your show Tom Baker will be in the starring role..." I really find it hard to imagine Peter Davison - or any current Doctor in that scenario of the previous one becoming the lead again - agreeing to that. I find myself in agreement here. As much as I love Tom/Four, Peter was the incumbent Doctor at the time and I can't imagine him being prepared to step aside as the lead. Cheers Tony It's like if David Tennant had been the lead in The Day of the Doctor. It would have been the equivalent of a slap in the face for Matt Smith, essentially giving the wrong message that he's not good enough for the show.
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Post by bobod on Nov 15, 2017 2:00:22 GMT
I think Peter Davison would have had something to say! He was the star of all the episodes at the time. He could have played a supporting role for one episode. No, he really couldn't. This isn't a Blink style Doctor-lite episode needed for production reasons, this is telling your lead actor he's to let someone else lead the huge anniversary special. It would have been *totally* inappropriate.
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Post by lidar2 on Nov 15, 2017 8:55:20 GMT
I really wouldn't mind Four being the main Doctor in the Five Doctors. I never really liked Five that much, and Four would have done an amazing job dealing with all those Time Lords. I think Peter Davison would have had something to say! Not as much as Jon Pertwee would have had!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 9:25:11 GMT
I think Peter Davison would have had something to say! Not as much as Jon Pertwee would have had! I suppose the irony there is Jon was outshone in "his" anniversary multi-Doc eps. I can't think of many people walking away from The Three Doctors not thinking Pat Troughton was the best and most memorable part.
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Post by bobod on Nov 15, 2017 9:51:16 GMT
Not as much as Jon Pertwee would have had! I suppose the irony there is Jon was outshone in "his" anniversary multi-Doc eps. I can't think of many people walking away from The Three Doctors not thinking Pat Troughton was the best and most memorable part. But Jon wouldn't have so he'd have been happy.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 10:01:48 GMT
I suppose the irony there is Jon was outshone in "his" anniversary multi-Doc eps. I can't think of many people walking away from The Three Doctors not thinking Pat Troughton was the best and most memorable part. But Jon wouldn't have so he'd have been happy. Yes, I doubt he left many rooms without thinking he stole the show. I was watching an ep of Whodunnit the other mont where he was a panelist and Edward Woodward was still the host - Jon didn't let anyone get a word in edgeways. No wonder they ended up letting him host - poor Edward looked like he'd rather have still been inside the burning Wicker Man!
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Nov 15, 2017 10:30:01 GMT
I think Peter Davison would have had something to say! Not as much as Jon Pertwee would have had! I wonder if Jon Pertwee would have quit on the spot?
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Post by bobod on Nov 15, 2017 11:01:28 GMT
Not as much as Jon Pertwee would have had! I wonder if Jon Pertwee would have quit on the spot? No. He'd have insisted things were changed. As evidenced several times in the 70s.
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Post by number13 on Nov 15, 2017 11:45:58 GMT
I suppose the irony there is Jon was outshone in "his" anniversary multi-Doc eps. I can't think of many people walking away from The Three Doctors not thinking Pat Troughton was the best and most memorable part. But Jon wouldn't have so he'd have been happy. To be fair, the DVD commentaries etc. make it clear that Jon Pertwee was well aware that he was a Light Entertainment star compared with actors like Roger Delgado and Patrick Troughton. The Doctor was about his only 'straight' role, everything else was comedy with trademark silly voices. Not to run down comedy played with silly voices, of course! And to this day he is still my Doctor! 'The Three Doctors' talks about their different styles (Troughton semi-improvisation v. script-exact Pertwee) and how it took them a while to adjust to each other's styles - but what a fabulous result! If there was any dramatic tension, how well it played out between the Doctors.
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Post by thethirddoctor on Nov 29, 2017 19:38:48 GMT
I don't think he would have been the 'main' Doctor Actually: Robert Holmes wrote The Six Doctors.
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Post by themeddlingmonk on Nov 29, 2017 20:54:40 GMT
I find myself in agreement here. As much as I love Tom/Four, Peter was the incumbent Doctor at the time and I can't imagine him being prepared to step aside as the lead. Cheers Tony It's like if David Tennant had been the lead in The Day of the Doctor. It would have been the equivalent of a slap in the face for Matt Smith, essentially giving the wrong message that he's not good enough for the show. Now I wish that David Tennant had been the lead in Day of the Doctor...
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Post by Zagreus on Nov 29, 2017 23:34:11 GMT
whofix did an edit of The Five Doctors that incorporated a stripped down version of State of Decay into the plot, and edited Tom into the final shot of The Doctors railing against Barusa. It's an interesting edit. You could, at one time, get it on VHS! I also know someone else on Youtube was doing a Star Wars Special Editions style edit of The Five Doctors, putting large windows and stuff on Gallifrey and incorporating background footage from various New Who Gallifrey stories to make it feel like a grand city and such... while also trying to cheekily edit David Tennant into the plot somehow. Not sure how that one turned out, as updates sort of trailed off and then stopped eventually.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 4:20:49 GMT
whofix did an edit of The Five Doctors that incorporated a stripped down version of State of Decay into the plot, and edited Tom into the final shot of The Doctors railing against Barusa. It's an interesting edit. You could, at one time, get it on VHS! I also know someone else on Youtube was doing a Star Wars Special Editions style edit of The Five Doctors, putting large windows and stuff on Gallifrey and incorporating background footage from various New Who Gallifrey stories to make it feel like a grand city and such... while also trying to cheekily edit David Tennant into the plot somehow. Not sure how that one turned out, as updates sort of trailed off and then stopped eventually. The ever wonderful Babelcolour had a short trailer that turned it into The Ten Doctors, but unfortunately, that trailer seems to have been taken down as part of his channel's occasional pruning. It's funny to think that there was so much of a clamour for The Ten Doctors as a fan idea back in the late 2000s. Rich Morris's version in comics has got to be my favourite, it's just so much fun and just as self-indulgent as The Five Doctors was. Romana shot down by the Cybermen trying to lead a kidnapped group of companions to safety, the Eighth Doctor and Leela vs. the Valeyard, the Second Doctor vs. the Toymaker and Omega, Nyssa blasted by the Daleks, the Fourth Doctor hanging by his scarf from orbit, etc. It's quite the journey.
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Post by J.A. Prentice on Nov 30, 2017 6:37:38 GMT
whofix did an edit of The Five Doctors that incorporated a stripped down version of State of Decay into the plot, and edited Tom into the final shot of The Doctors railing against Barusa. It's an interesting edit. You could, at one time, get it on VHS! I also know someone else on Youtube was doing a Star Wars Special Editions style edit of The Five Doctors, putting large windows and stuff on Gallifrey and incorporating background footage from various New Who Gallifrey stories to make it feel like a grand city and such... while also trying to cheekily edit David Tennant into the plot somehow. Not sure how that one turned out, as updates sort of trailed off and then stopped eventually. The ever wonderful Babelcolour had a short trailer that turned it into The Ten Doctors, but unfortunately, that trailer seems to have been taken down as part of his channel's occasional pruning. It's funny to think that there was so much of a clamour for The Ten Doctors as a fan idea back in the late 2000s. Rich Morris's version in comics has got to be my favourite, it's just so much fun and just as self-indulgent as The Five Doctors was. Romana shot down by the Cybermen trying to lead a kidnapped group of companions to safety, the Eighth Doctor and Leela vs. the Valeyard, the Second Doctor vs. the Toymaker and Omega, Nyssa blasted by the Daleks, the Fourth Doctor hanging by his scarf from orbit, etc. It's quite the journey. I love that comic. It's really, really self-indulgent, but it's so much fun. Actually, I hadn't noticed until now that clamour for an "every Doctor" story does seem to have gone down since the 50th. Now I see more people pushing for a Eighth/Current Doctor story. Perhaps even the most fanish fans realize that fitting fourteen Doctors into one cohesive story would be nigh-impossible. Even five Doctors is barely manageable. (If anyone wants to take a stab at it, I'd love to be proven wrong.)
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Nov 30, 2017 9:44:39 GMT
The ever wonderful Babelcolour had a short trailer that turned it into The Ten Doctors, but unfortunately, that trailer seems to have been taken down as part of his channel's occasional pruning. It's funny to think that there was so much of a clamour for The Ten Doctors as a fan idea back in the late 2000s. Rich Morris's version in comics has got to be my favourite, it's just so much fun and just as self-indulgent as The Five Doctors was. Romana shot down by the Cybermen trying to lead a kidnapped group of companions to safety, the Eighth Doctor and Leela vs. the Valeyard, the Second Doctor vs. the Toymaker and Omega, Nyssa blasted by the Daleks, the Fourth Doctor hanging by his scarf from orbit, etc. It's quite the journey. I love that comic. It's really, really self-indulgent, but it's so much fun. Actually, I hadn't noticed until now that clamour for an "every Doctor" story does seem to have gone down since the 50th. Now I see more people pushing for a Eighth/Current Doctor story. Perhaps even the most fanish fans realize that fitting fourteen Doctors into one cohesive story would be nigh-impossible. Even five Doctors is barely manageable. (If anyone wants to take a stab at it, I'd love to be proven wrong.) If I am showrunner one day, I would totally take a stab at it. I'd like to think I'd be the kind of showrunner who would be ambitious and take risks. It's what I tend to do with the screenplays I write for university. Sometimes it works, other times it sort of half works and half doesn't.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2017 2:14:50 GMT
The ever wonderful Babelcolour had a short trailer that turned it into The Ten Doctors, but unfortunately, that trailer seems to have been taken down as part of his channel's occasional pruning. It's funny to think that there was so much of a clamour for The Ten Doctors as a fan idea back in the late 2000s. Rich Morris's version in comics has got to be my favourite, it's just so much fun and just as self-indulgent as The Five Doctors was. Romana shot down by the Cybermen trying to lead a kidnapped group of companions to safety, the Eighth Doctor and Leela vs. the Valeyard, the Second Doctor vs. the Toymaker and Omega, Nyssa blasted by the Daleks, the Fourth Doctor hanging by his scarf from orbit, etc. It's quite the journey. I love that comic. It's really, really self-indulgent, but it's so much fun. Actually, I hadn't noticed until now that clamour for an "every Doctor" story does seem to have gone down since the 50th. Now I see more people pushing for a Eighth/Current Doctor story. Perhaps even the most fanish fans realize that fitting fourteen Doctors into one cohesive story would be nigh-impossible. Even five Doctors is barely manageable. (If anyone wants to take a stab at it, I'd love to be proven wrong.) I think it kicked off a shortlist of fanon that I thought was "just as good as canon" and made its way into the timelines. Forever Janette, Outrage of the Zygons and The Stalker of Norfolk are brilliant as well. If anyone wants to see how you can get away with a crossover in Who, I'd take a look at those first two. I love that comic. It's really, really self-indulgent, but it's so much fun. Actually, I hadn't noticed until now that clamour for an "every Doctor" story does seem to have gone down since the 50th. Now I see more people pushing for a Eighth/Current Doctor story. Perhaps even the most fanish fans realize that fitting fourteen Doctors into one cohesive story would be nigh-impossible. Even five Doctors is barely manageable. (If anyone wants to take a stab at it, I'd love to be proven wrong.) If I am showrunner one day, I would totally take a stab at it. I'd like to think I'd be the kind of showrunner who would be ambitious and take risks. It's what I tend to do with the screenplays I write for university. Sometimes it works, other times it sort of half works and half doesn't. The benefit also with that kind of writing is that even if it doesn't work... You can still find out why it didn't work, which helps with further experimentation. Hypothetically -- and assuming that there'd still be thirteen(ish) episodes per season -- I reckon it'd probably work best as a story arc running straight through the middle of it. That way, any Doctors who fell by the wayside in the special would still get their day in the limelight. Scramble up the order rather than going chronologically and the audience can be kept on their toes as well, not knowing which incarnation will be next. Alternatively, if there's a decision to go the Poirot/Sharpe/Marple route of telefilms, maybe the debut story can deal with one half and the concluding story, the other.
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