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Post by kurumais on Jan 19, 2018 2:51:57 GMT
there are only 2 stories with the rani both fairly recently and in the main range. the sontarans are more spread out over ranges and doctors but they only have 2 in the main range also. and if we add of they up over all the ranges and all the
doctors we get 5 full stories and they appeared with eighth in classic doctors new monsters and they were in one of the dark eyes chapters and when i say they i mean he. dan starkey played a sontaran dark eyes 4 master of daleks. so 2 main
range appearances for both to 17 by the daleks and 10 by the cybermen.
the sontarans have been spread around a bit
the first doctor the early adventures 3.4 the sontarans
the 4th doctor adventures the king of sontar
the 5th doctor main range heroes of sontar
the 6th doctor the lost stories the first sontarans
the 7th doctor main range terror of the sontarans
the 8th doctor dark eyes 4 master of daleks they were slaves of the daleks so not even an enemy
the 8th doctor classic doctors new monsters vol 1 the sontaran ordeal.
all these appearance for both these baddies seem very low to me. the rani especially though i vaguely remember there being some sort of permission problems. were there? so far the rani has only faced the sixth doctor plenty of room for
more.imagine the sophisticated 3rd doctor vs the rani story. and give the second doctor a shot at the sontarans. actually the cosmic hobo vs the rani sounds fun too.
basically i think they are both being underused
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Post by elkawho on Jan 19, 2018 3:08:21 GMT
I don't think the Sontarans have been used too infrequently at all, especially since BF has had Dan Starkey working with them. For the most part I think when they have used them, they have done so very well. And you didn't list Jago & Lightfoot & Strax, (I know it's not with a Doctor, but it is a Sontaran story.) To be honest, I would rather see a villain or race of villains be used more sparingly and well than get overused to the point that I don't want to see the anymore. There are billions of planets in the universe with billions of races, why overuse one?
I do agree with you regarding the Rani. Would love more.
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Post by newt5996 on Jan 19, 2018 4:35:39 GMT
Have we ever actually had a Sontaran V Rutan story outside of Shakedown? Because that would be nice to see.
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Post by icecreamdf on Jan 19, 2018 4:44:57 GMT
Have we ever actually had a Sontaran V Rutan story outside of Shakedown? Because that would be nice to see. They were both in The First Sontarans. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 6:12:34 GMT
Would always love to see more of the Rani. It's funny, but it feels as though we've gotten a lot more of the Sontaran-Rutan War than we actually have. I'd be very interested in seeing more of the Rutans.
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Post by shallacatop on Jan 19, 2018 10:25:42 GMT
The Sontarans were used with the War Doctor too, in the Agents of Chaos set. Very good it was too.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 18:42:14 GMT
I'd be up for more of Siobhán Redmond's Rani before any more Sontaran stories... although Strax in anything is of course acceptable.
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Post by mbt66 on Jan 20, 2018 11:54:02 GMT
I would certainly like to hear from the Rani in the Time War, although that doesn’t have to be Siobhan Redmond.
And if the monthly range is still doing multi-Doctor trilogies then she would be a great character to link those stories together.
As for the Sontarans I don’t feel like we haven’t had too few stories with them. Now Strax on the other hand...
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Post by denyer97 on Jan 20, 2018 12:02:24 GMT
To go alongside John Hurt and Derek Jacobi as the Doctor and Master of the Time War id quite like to see someone like Juliet Stevenson take over the role as The Rani for the Time War.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 5:27:23 GMT
I'd like to see the Rani face the Third Doctor as well, but with a different actress to Siobhan Redmond, to make her a Rani from before the Mark, but make her not exactly an enemy like the Master was in the Dark Path, where here and the Doctor's morals have some divergence but they aren't outright opposed. I've always had a cool idea for the Rani teaming up with the Monk, but won't say it here...
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Post by barnabaslives on Jan 21, 2018 18:38:20 GMT
So far I don't feel like the Sontarans have been overused, they're an interesting and distinctive species and with any luck Dan Starkey will be involved. They did appear in the 4DAs in The Eternal Battle as well as The King of Sontar, so maybe next encounter should go to the Fifth (or maybe Seventh) Doctor?
The Main Range stories certainly improved my opinion of the Rani as a foe so I probably wouldn't mind more Rani stories either, although I think there's maybe still quite some room for character-building. On TV, I think she might have been a little too far in the "misguided, misunderstood" direction (see also Helen A) and was harder for me to take all that seriously there. It would be a neat trick to maybe sort of better reconcile that character with the Main Range character and with whatever differences we might see in the Rani in the Time War.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 18:41:36 GMT
I'd like to see the Rani die in the Time War. Not because I dislike her or anything, but because it'd give a heightened sense of consequence to the war, given that both the Master and the Monk survived.
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Post by mbt66 on Jan 21, 2018 18:48:42 GMT
I'd like to see the Rani die in the Time War. Not because I dislike her or anything, but because it'd give a heightened sense of consequence to the war, given that both the Master and the Monk survived. How do we know that the Monk survived? Did I miss something?? |
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Post by Zagreus on Jan 21, 2018 18:59:42 GMT
I'd like to see the Rani die in the Time War. Not because I dislike her or anything, but because it'd give a heightened sense of consequence to the war, given that both the Master and the Monk survived. How do we know that the Monk survived? Did I miss something?? |
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Post by mbt66 on Jan 21, 2018 19:59:09 GMT
Thank you for the clarification! |
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Post by kurumais on Jan 22, 2018 14:09:17 GMT
a war rani and the monk in the time war god be very interesting. what about the 11 during the time war how about that.
do you susan will get a regeneration?
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