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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 11:44:56 GMT
I asked this elsewhere but should you accept it when now adult former school bullies say they are sorry?
the hurt and pain they caused me doesn't just go away. Maybe they're sorry, maybe they regret it now, but it doesn't change what they did. I could easily have been another Phoebe Prince, another Amy "Dolly" Everett, and i don't think the now-adult ex-bullies understand that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 11:56:32 GMT
I asked this elsewhere but should you accept it when now adult former school bullies say they are sorry? the hurt and pain they caused me doesn't just go away. Maybe they're sorry, maybe they regret it now, but it doesn't change what they did. I could easily have been another Phoebe Prince, another Amy "Dolly" Everett, and i don't think the now-adult ex-bullies understand that. No an apology can never change what someone did but it is a step to recognising that what they did was wrong isn't it? If not why are they apologising? Sorry if you feel you can't accept an apology from a former bully mate. I guess it is different for everyone.
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Post by jasonward on Jan 19, 2018 12:11:58 GMT
There is no should about it.
There is no duty on you.
It is a choice, your choice.
Forgiveness is about freedom, granting it *may* grant some freedom to the person being forgiven, but frankly that's not the point, forgiveness is something you do for yourself, forgiveness means letting go of your own fear and hatred, your anger and resentment. Holding on to those things is costly, letting them go can be perhaps the hardest and bravest thing you ever did in your life, but doing so will free you.
It's your choice, you do it for you.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 12:15:50 GMT
I was bullied horribly for developing breasts because of my weight. Endless taunts that i needed a bra. remarks that i should go to the school dance ball in a giant poofy dress or evening gown. I also have a sister who sent me this in an email, with the caption "you and Mum":
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Post by jasonward on Jan 19, 2018 12:56:32 GMT
OK. I can sympathise, I was bullied for the exact same reason, I used to have boys in the changing rooms at school molesting me and groping me so they could feel my boobs. I did not enjoy that at all, indeed I hated it, and felt humiliated by it.
All I can say is though, if you carry this around with you like a torch before you, it will continue to hurt you every day.
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Post by rran on Jan 19, 2018 12:58:57 GMT
That’s nasty.Usually such things happen here at engineering colleges, particularly in hostels.I was fortunate not to have to stay in one but I’ve heard friends relate such instances.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Jan 19, 2018 12:59:37 GMT
If any ex bullies came up to me to apologise today, they'd get one of two reactions:
1, I'd look at them a bit then turn and walk away as they waited for a response
or
2, Tell them to F**k off
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 6:35:25 GMT
I've actually had this happen to me not too long back. A man, who I had completely forgotten about since graduating, popped right back into my life at a bus-stop in the rain. His whole manner had changed, he carried himself better, spoke more clearly, so I was pretty startled at the time because I don't think I quite recognised him at first. And then, after a bit of light chat, he apologised to me. Now, here was a man who had done his fair share of unpleasant things. I think he likely contributed to a case of PTSD that I'll carry with me for the rest of my life. Oddly enough though, I wasn't thinking about any of the nasty little things he'd done. My mind went completely blank. So, as I listened, he told me what he'd been going through at home. The specifics are unimportant and, unfortunately, all too common. He didn't ask for forgiveness, nor do I think he expected any sort of catharsis. He just wanted me to know that he was sorry.
Forgiveness is a difficult word to wrangle. It has so many different shades of meaning to it. I don't think I pardoned him for what he did, but I can understand why it was done. That more than anything has contributed to a sense of, well, acceptance. It was perpetrated, it was awful and now it is over. If anything, I'm quietly glad that he's been able to rise above it and become self-aware because it means he won't harm anyone else. Moreover, he will likely try and stop it from happening to others. The alternative isn't wonderful. It's a dark, lonely corner dedicated to the suffering of others. A cold, empty existence. Better to wake up than stay asleep.
I don't think you have to forgive, I don't think you have to forget. But acceptance is important for your own wellness. Life thrives on acceptance. If an apology can help that, so be it. That old pain can be put to rest and no more thought about it. Nobody needs more personal demons in their lives. And you know... Without acceptance, places like DU where discussions like this can be aired, wouldn't exist. *shrug and sigh* It's important for the self, that's all I can say.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 8:22:01 GMT
I asked this elsewhere but should you accept it when now adult former school bullies say they are sorry? the hurt and pain they caused me doesn't just go away. Maybe they're sorry, maybe they regret it now, but it doesn't change what they did. I could easily have been another Phoebe Prince, another Amy "Dolly" Everett, and i don't think the now-adult ex-bullies understand that. As someone who was bullied physically & mentally for three years because i developed OCD & depression due to a horrific childhood trauma i still suffer PTSD today because of the beatings i endured, it is a choice whether one can or should forgive personally i can't forgive those bullys it would be like pardoning them that it's ok what they did & that i couldn't deal with. If i seen those responsible today & they came up to me & apologized I'd tell them to f..k off, they wasn't sorry when they were dunking my head in a murky filthy pond.
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