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Post by omega on Jan 24, 2018 10:46:29 GMT
OK. So I guess you're going to stop watching the programme? No, I'm going to keep watching so I can complain some more and compose a strongly worded email to ITV. It's been going strong for over fifty years. I don't think one email is going to sink it. There is the option of changing the channel. You seem to enjoy Eastenders, watch that instead. Watching to look for flaws isn't healthy. There used to be someone here who only posted on the What Who Are You Watching thread just to pick apart the New Series episodes, hate watching just to pick them apart and look for things to criticise. This whole thread could have been a line in the Last TV show You Watched thread about how you didn't like the writing on Coro. That's it. No going on about how conventional narratives don't work for you. |
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Post by omega on Jan 24, 2018 10:51:44 GMT
Conflict is a key part of any narrative, and soap opera need to do it long form. Factor in long running soaps and the same kind of conflicts tend to recur at some point. Blackmail, criminal offenses, affairs, deception, kidnapping, abuse, love triangles, weddings that inevitably have something go wrong or unexpected (someone will usually speak now instead of forever holding their piece). For a long runner like Coro doing something interesting with established characters without retreading old ground (Gail with yet another bad fella for example) must be tricky.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 24, 2018 11:41:16 GMT
No, I'm going to keep watching so I can complain some more and compose a strongly worded email to ITV. It's been going strong for over fifty years. I don't think one email is going to sink it. There is the option of changing the channel. You seem to enjoy Eastenders, watch that instead. Watching to look for flaws isn't healthy. There used to be someone here who only posted on the What Who Are You Watching thread just to pick apart the New Series episodes, hate watching just to pick them apart and look for things to criticise. This whole thread could have been a line in the Last TV show You Watched thread about how you didn't like the writing on Coro. That's it. No going on about how conventional narratives don't work for you. I hate EastEnders! |
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 24, 2018 11:46:36 GMT
Conflict is a key part of any narrative, and soap opera need to do it long form. Factor in long running soaps and the same kind of conflicts tend to recur at some point. Blackmail, criminal offenses, affairs, deception, kidnapping, abuse, love triangles, weddings that inevitably have something go wrong or unexpected (someone will usually speak now instead of forever holding their piece). For a long runner like Coro doing something interesting with established characters without retreading old ground (Gail with yet another bad fella for example) must be tricky. You're forgetting that this was Debbie Rush's exit, so now we'll never get to see her be served justice. |
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Post by omega on Jan 24, 2018 11:51:47 GMT
It's been going strong for over fifty years. I don't think one email is going to sink it. There is the option of changing the channel. You seem to enjoy Eastenders, watch that instead. Watching to look for flaws isn't healthy. There used to be someone here who only posted on the What Who Are You Watching thread just to pick apart the New Series episodes, hate watching just to pick them apart and look for things to criticise. This whole thread could have been a line in the Last TV show You Watched thread about how you didn't like the writing on Coro. That's it. No going on about how conventional narratives don't work for you. I hate EastEnders! Well then, watch something you genuinely like. Doctor Who for example. Hate watching is beneath you anyway. You're too good a person for that. |
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Post by omega on Jan 24, 2018 11:53:19 GMT
Conflict is a key part of any narrative, and soap opera need to do it long form. Factor in long running soaps and the same kind of conflicts tend to recur at some point. Blackmail, criminal offenses, affairs, deception, kidnapping, abuse, love triangles, weddings that inevitably have something go wrong or unexpected (someone will usually speak now instead of forever holding their piece). For a long runner like Coro doing something interesting with established characters without retreading old ground (Gail with yet another bad fella for example) must be tricky. You're forgetting that this was Debbie Rush's exit, so now we'll never get to see her be served justice. The most recent Coro in New Zealand is a couple of years behind. I haven't seen it for a few years anyway. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 14:43:26 GMT
Life isn't all sunshine & rainbows. It is good that fiction demonstrates this. Sometimes bad things happen to good people. I don't want to see that in storytelling. It makes for an inconclusive and anti-climatic ending, and in my view shows a terrible writer who has little to no understanding of what audiences want to see. Any such ending is the prime example of an 'Is that it?' ending IMO. No writer just writes "what audiences want to see"- where's the conflict in that? Where's the excitement? Subverting a trope is probably the best trick a screenwriter could use to shock an audience. It's not what the audience would want to see, but it's far more interesting creatively. You've got to understand that not liking something does not equate to somebody being bad at their job. In fact, by enraging you in this way, the creative team has actually succeeded in their intentions. And no, this is not Debbie Rush's last episode, just her last regular appearance. As in all things, the villain will get his comeuppance and Anna will be exonerated. Just not immediately- it's deferred gratification. Hell, she's even in the trailer for the upcoming episodes; she may not be on the street but she's still important to the plot. |
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 24, 2018 15:23:29 GMT
I don't want to see that in storytelling. It makes for an inconclusive and anti-climatic ending, and in my view shows a terrible writer who has little to no understanding of what audiences want to see. Any such ending is the prime example of an 'Is that it?' ending IMO. No writer just writes "what audiences want to see"- where's the conflict in that? Where's the excitement?[ Subverting a trope is probably the best trick a screenwriter could use to shock an audience. It's not what the audience would want to see, but it's far more interesting creatively. I totally agree, but subverting a trope for the sake of it isn't always very satisfying. Sometimes it can feel forced, others it just generates an 'Eh?' reaction (which was exactly my reaction to Anna's exit). It just felt like something was missing, especially knowing that this was definitely the last time we will be seeing Debbie Rush as Anna. Debbie Rush deserved much better. They've specifically said it was her exit. The scenes in the trailer were from earlier episodes. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 16:07:51 GMT
OK. So I guess you're going to stop watching the programme? No, I'm going to keep watching so I can complain some more and compose a strongly worded email to ITV. Well, if it's a good enough motto for fandom when a new series of Doctor Who airs I suppose it's good enough for everything else on TV too.  |
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Post by Timelord007 on Jan 25, 2018 8:09:24 GMT
It's been going strong for over fifty years. I don't think one email is going to sink it. There is the option of changing the channel. You seem to enjoy Eastenders, watch that instead. Watching to look for flaws isn't healthy. There used to be someone here who only posted on the What Who Are You Watching thread just to pick apart the New Series episodes, hate watching just to pick them apart and look for things to criticise. This whole thread could have been a line in the Last TV show You Watched thread about how you didn't like the writing on Coro. That's it. No going on about how conventional narratives don't work for you. I hate EastEnders! I like Eastenders, as for Corrie you are dictating what you like, what you want to see happen, it don't work like that buddy if it did I'd be making changes to series 11 of Doctor Who to suit my needs. |
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Post by omega on Jan 25, 2018 8:46:08 GMT
I like Eastenders, as for Corrie you are dictating what you like, what you want to see happen, it don't work like that buddy if it did I'd be making changes to series 11 of Doctor Who to suit my needs. Everything must have at least one fan. One tv show I'm sure we can all agree is an absolute low in any sort of taste is Heil Honey, I'm Home (an actual sitcom about Aldolf Hitler and Eva Braun in sitcom situations that only aired one episode). I'm not making this up. |
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