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Post by nucleusofswarm on Feb 10, 2018 1:23:39 GMT
Naturally, we talk a whole lot about oru favourite sci-fi, fantasy and horror. Almost like it's a Who forum...
Anyhoo, let's go over to the other side and talk about some of our favourite non-fantastical stories, where it's just all about human nature and emotion.
Can be a movie or show or book, whatever.
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Post by Digi on Feb 10, 2018 3:27:38 GMT
The Wire > all
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Post by muckypup on Feb 10, 2018 4:51:45 GMT
The crown
Had/have no interest in the royal family, but I got sucked in.
Warm fully rounded performances from all the main cast, production values to die for & brilliantly written.
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Post by mark687 on Feb 10, 2018 9:57:19 GMT
Sons of Anarchy
The Blacklist
24
The Newsroom
The West Wing
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Post by channing on Feb 10, 2018 12:17:38 GMT
Fortitude and The Blacklist
Also special mention to Designated Survivor
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Feb 10, 2018 13:18:02 GMT
Fortitude
The Wire
The Sopranos
Breaking Bad
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Post by agentten on Feb 10, 2018 19:37:09 GMT
Breaking Bad
Better Call Saul
The Sorpranos
Boardwalk Empire
Broadchurch
True Detective
Bates Motel
Hannibal
24
The Blacklist
Law and Order: Criminal Intent
The Americans
The Fall
Jericho
Survivors
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Post by anothermanicmondas on Feb 11, 2018 11:58:41 GMT
in books
the works of Donald E Westlake AKA Richard Stark, etc
(He has done a little science fiction, fantasy, etc but mostly focused on crime)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2018 1:44:34 GMT
It skirts pretty close to fantasy at times (with gadgetry and illusions), but The Equalizer television series is definitely up there for me. From Season 2 onwards, it's an excellent example of a dark world galvanised by a genuinely heroic protagonist. It's never quite so grim, so long as Robert McCall and Mickey Kostmeyer are around.
The latter end of Poirot when they switched over to telefilms are gorgeously acted and produced. Another series with a very well-acted protagonist, David Suchet is practically peerless and great care is taken with all the adaptations.
I, Spy is another one of those shows that just manages to skirt beneath fantasy by privately becoming a noir. Most of the dialogue throughout the show's run between Kelly and Scotty is improvised, which elevates what might have been just another spy show into something rather special. The episodes by Robert Culp in particular (about half a dozen of them), might be some of the best-written drama of the 1960s.
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Post by doomlord on Feb 12, 2018 20:49:44 GMT
1970s
I, Claudius
Thriller
Tales of the Unexpected
Secret Army
Crown Court
Shoestring
Starsky & Hutch
...............and on the blurry line: Survivors, The New Avengers, and one-off plays such as Brimstone and Treacle, Blue Remembered Hills, A Warning to the Curious
1980s
Tenko
Minder
Edge of Darkness
The Life and Times of David Lloyd George
The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes
The Life and Loves of a She-Devil
Auf Wiedersehen, Pet
Boys from the Blackstuff
The Equalizer
.............. and the blurred line mentions: Robin of Sherwood, The Nightmare Man, The Mad Death, Threads.
1990s
Our Friends in the North
House of Cards
G.B.H.
Heartbeat
Jonathan Creek
The Crow Road
.............. honourable blurred line: The Last Train, Chimera
I'll have to have a good think about 21st century television...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 10:22:45 GMT
Too broad a topic, but: Upstairs, Downstairs The Secret Army The Wire Deadwood The Shield OZ The West Wing A Very British Coup Nuts In May House Of Cards (UK AND US) Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy Tutti Frutti Looking After Jojo Taking Over The Asylum Made In Britain A Very Peculiar Practice (OK, a black comedy-drama) I love that people are calling 24 serious drama!  It's textbook OTT action shlock. Fun but closer to comedy, I think. |
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Post by doomlord on Feb 14, 2018 18:55:50 GMT
I almost put A Very Peculiar Practice but decided not to for that very reason. I managed to pick up the complete series on DVD last year at a car boot sale for a whole One Pound!
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Apr 5, 2018 0:46:36 GMT
The Leopard: basically, Italy's Gone With The Wind. Stunning historical epic about a nation in transition, directed by Visconti, written by some of the people behind Bicycle Thieves and music by the one and only Nino Rota.
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Post by glutamodo on Apr 5, 2018 1:45:31 GMT
in books the works of Donald E Westlake AKA Richard Stark, etc (He has done a little science fiction, fantasy, etc but mostly focused on crime) I totally skipped this thread when it first came round but my eyeballs always perk up when I see DEW mentioned. I've not read a lot of Stark, but have read pretty much every Westlake title I could get my hands on over the years (and while many of them were humorous, some were very dark humor) I thought Mr. Westlake was one of the best writers around for the genres he chose to work within. |
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Post by lucky on Apr 19, 2018 23:48:21 GMT
Veronica Mars
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Post by Hieronymus on Apr 20, 2018 2:56:57 GMT
In recent years:
I, Claudius
The plays of Sophocles and Aeschylus
Shakespeare's histories and tragedies
When I was younger:
Little House on the Prairie
But I've generally preferred comedy, science fiction, anime, and such.
And there are works that straddle the "serious" and "fantastical", such as LeGuin's Earthsea series, Gulliver's Travels, or Wagner's Ring Cycle. For that matter, the dramas of ancient Greece were based on myths and often featured gods, so those also could be considered "fantasy" under a modern definition of that genre.
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It's textbook OTT action shlock. Fun but closer to comedy, I think.
