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Post by redsharkJason on May 26, 2018 5:52:36 GMT
I'm coming across mostly positive to average reviews for this 250 million budget movie. It will reportedly need to gross at least 500 million worldwide in order to break-even. Ron Howard hasn't had a box office success as a director since Angels & Demons (2009), so I wish him luck. For those of us that have seen this spin-off, what do you think of it?
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on May 26, 2018 10:37:47 GMT
The ending scene was worth it. the character who was so well hidden from press reports there was no leak which is great in this day and age of instant online spoilers.. It makes sense and it "fixes" a portion of the prequels movies...
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2018 16:01:04 GMT
Couldn't agree less about Maul's appearance. This is just another example of a film franchise not being able to do something clever at the end so just throws in some massive fan service instead. Totally pandering. "Here's something you recognise" doesn't cut the mustard for me.
However...the film itself was fine. Not bad, not good but perfectly fine. It was a LOT more coherent than the horror show behind the scenes would suggest it has a right to be. Eidenrich was great, Glover was OK, the ensemble were what they needed to be. Sadly we could all have written the plot. Han meets Lando? Check. Meets Chewie? Check. Does Kessel Run? Check. Wins Falcon? Check. It's paint by numbers filmaking which, given Ron Howard is directing, makes sense.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2018 16:04:30 GMT
Ron Howard hasn't had a box office success as a director since Angels & Demons (2009), so I wish him luck. Inferno took 3 times it's budget. Not as big a success as the first two but it was a successful enough film. |
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Post by stcoop on May 26, 2018 21:17:00 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2018 8:11:21 GMT
Just do Knights Of The Old Republic trilogy with Peter Jackson wtiting & directing & let's get some gritty emotional spectacle put back into Star Wars.
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Post by stcoop on May 27, 2018 21:18:48 GMT
Not even relatively speaking now. It made half what Deadpool 2 did in it's opening weekend despite the more restrictive rating. |
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Post by Audio Watchdog on May 27, 2018 21:43:22 GMT
That is too bad. I’ve not seen it yet but based on the comments of a couple of hardcore, lifelong Star Wars fans that I’m friends with, I can hardly wait. They absolutely loved it.
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Post by stcoop on May 27, 2018 21:51:31 GMT
That is too bad. I’ve not seen it yet but based on the comments of a couple of hardcore, lifelong Star Wars fans that I’m friends with, I can hardly wait. They absolutely loved it. Good but not spectacular. I'd say it's 95% Ron Howard material that made it to the screen, so there's not the schizophrenic mess of Justice League. |
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Post by Audio Watchdog on May 27, 2018 22:54:04 GMT
That is too bad. I’ve not seen it yet but based on the comments of a couple of hardcore, lifelong Star Wars fans that I’m friends with, I can hardly wait. They absolutely loved it. Good but not spectacular. I'd say it's 95% Ron Howard material that made it to the screen, so there's not the schizophrenic mess of Justice League. From what I read he reshot 85% of the movie from the original screenplay. |
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Post by Jeedai on May 27, 2018 22:58:26 GMT
"Good but not spectacular' is a great way to sum up my feelings as well. Howard was definitely coloring within the lines, not taking any of the chances Rogue One and Last Jedi did. The biggest surprise for me being the way the first card game ended. That said, it didn't feel disjointed at all. Even on the level of Ant-Man. Overall, it reminds me of the feelings I had coming out of Star Trek Generations and Insurrection, two movies that would have been fine two-part episodes of the TNG series, but not really qualifying as a cinematic experience. Solo is better than either of those IMO, but compared to the other Star Wars movies... It's snugly in the middle of the pack for me.
I also came out of it more convinced more than ever of something I've noticed in the franchise since Disney took over. Moreso than any of the movies Lucas was in charge of, the Disney ones want and even require people to come in with a knowledge of the non-film media. The comment about Tobias offing Aurra Sing (which to my EU-soaked ears raised his bad-ass cred on top of foreshadowing his sudden-but-inevitable betrayal) must have flown over the heads of half the audience. Bossk's namedrop was just a cute little fandom nod; like her he appears in a single movie but isn't named one-screen. But I feel like the Sing reference was supposed to mean more and to some in the seats it just won't.
...And then there's Maul. His cameo made perfect sense to me (and justified Qi'ra choosing to stay with Crimson Dawn if only to save Han from its leader's wrath) because I watched Clone Wars and Rebels. I already knew the story of his rise from broken almost-dead-guy to criminal kingpin who makes it almost all the way to A New Hope. But people who aren't up on those series were probably blindsided by his appearance, and not in a good "I am your father" way. Left instead with more questions than answers, which could go so far as to *sour* the ending. I could hear a family seated near me trying to figure it all out for themselves during the end credits.
Based on opening weekend ticket numbers, it's starting to look like Solo's going to be the closest thing the franchise has ever had to a box office bomb. And I'm betting in the final analysis the choice to utilize Maul will be considered part of the reason why. It's probably going to hurt word of mouth among the casual viewership. Which is unfortunate, given the fine work Howard did patching the seams from the director swap and putting out a cohesive, well-pace, occasionally funny and charming narrative.
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Post by Jeedai on May 27, 2018 23:01:24 GMT
Postscript: Donald Glover's Lando definitely stole the movie. He cant get a spinoff movie fast enough for me.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on May 28, 2018 11:49:16 GMT
While fun its too safe. I really want to see what Lord and Miller did now.
Some characters are wasted but others do get a chance to shine. Glover's Lando and Eidenrich is surprisingly good as a Young Han.
But did they really need to explain THAT bit? lol
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Post by relativetime on May 30, 2018 22:35:17 GMT
"Good but not spectacular' is a great way to sum up my feelings as well. Howard was definitely coloring within the lines, not taking any of the chances Rogue One and Last Jedi did. The biggest surprise for me being the way the first card game ended. That said, it didn't feel disjointed at all. Even on the level of Ant-Man. Overall, it reminds me of the feelings I had coming out of Star Trek Generations and Insurrection, two movies that would have been fine two-part episodes of the TNG series, but not really qualifying as a cinematic experience. Solo is better than either of those IMO, but compared to the other Star Wars movies... It's snugly in the middle of the pack for me. I also came out of it more convinced more than ever of something I've noticed in the franchise since Disney took over. Moreso than any of the movies Lucas was in charge of, t he Disney ones want and even require people to come in with a knowledge of the non-film media. The comment about Tobias offing Aurra Sing (which to my EU-soaked ears raised his bad-ass cred on top of foreshadowing his sudden-but-inevitable betrayal) must have flown over the heads of half the audience. Bossk's namedrop was just a cute little fandom nod; like her he appears in a single movie but isn't named one-screen. But I feel like the Sing reference was supposed to mean more and to some in the seats it just won't. ...And then there's Maul. His cameo made perfect sense to me (and justified Qi'ra choosing to stay with Crimson Dawn if only to save Han from its leader's wrath) because I watched Clone Wars and Rebels. I already knew the story of his rise from broken almost-dead-guy to criminal kingpin who makes it almost all the way to A New Hope. But people who aren't up on those series were probably blindsided by his appearance, and not in a good "I am your father" way. Left instead with more questions than answers, which could go so far as to *sour* the ending. I could hear a family seated near me trying to figure it all out for themselves during the end credits. Based on opening weekend ticket numbers, it's starting to look like Solo's going to be the closest thing the franchise has ever had to a box office bomb. And I'm betting in the final analysis the choice to utilize Maul will be considered part of the reason why. It's probably going to hurt word of mouth among the casual viewership. Which is unfortunate, given the fine work Howard did patching the seams from the director swap and putting out a cohesive, well-pace, occasionally funny and charming narrative. I wouldn't say that it's required to have any knowledge of the non-film media at all. Most of the stuff from Clone Wars and Rebels went right over my head and I still thoroughly enjoyed the film and understood exactly what the film was telling me about the characters. Not knowing the backstory of every thing or person mentioned in a film doesn't necessarily mean people will feel left out of the loop. I reckon most people will look at these sort of references the same way people looked at things like the Kessel Run when Han mentioned it in A New Hope. And when they later find out there was material behind that little name drop, they'll think "cool, maybe I'll have a look at it sometime" or maybe they won't and they won't really miss anything. All things considered, this film handled the expanded universe much better than Rogue One did with Saw Gerrera. As for Maul, he was a pretty prominent part of The Phantom Menace's marketing and resolution and I'd argue most people who've been watching the films would know who he is. If not, then I think most audiences would probably see the red lightsaber and be intrigued to figure out who this "new" Sith character is in the next movie, which I think this cameo is obviously setting up (whether for another Solo movie or a different anthology film who knows). If this is the only appearance the character ever makes, then in the future when we look back on these movies and criticize them for setting up plot lines they didn't follow up on. Until then, I thought it was perfectly harmless. The real reason I suspect this movie isn't doing well at box offices is because it's only been five months since The Last Jedi and, in addition to that, we've had several other blockbuster titles that are aimed at the same target audience as Star Wars during that time - Black Panther, Avengers: Infinity War, Deadpool 2. Plus, the online community for Star Wars is still divided over the last Star Wars film and I don't think five months is enough time for things to settle - and I'm saying this despite the fact that I personally loved The Last Jedi. In summary, I think the casual audience is fatigued and the hardcore audience is still too busy bickering over the last Star Wars movie. I strongly suspect that if this movie had been released in the now traditional December slot, it might have attracted a lot more buzz than it did. |
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Post by ljwilson on Jun 3, 2018 14:14:49 GMT
'Solo' was good fun, I really enjoyed it. Knocks spots off the misguided 'The Last Jedi' which was absolutely crap.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2018 15:02:52 GMT
Well that was terrible. One of the worst films I have seen in ages! Cynically made to appeal to fanboys as it is nothing more than filling in the gaps from throwaway lines of dialogue from the OT. Bland characters. Dull action scenes. A complete lack of jeopardy. Absolutely desperate shoe-horning in of an old character at the end to give some sense of excitement to the film. Pointless film & if this is the future of Star Wars then count me out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by melkur on Jun 4, 2018 23:09:20 GMT
Going by the trailers, I went in not expecting much but, by the end, I did rather enjoy it!
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Post by Tim Bradley on Jun 5, 2018 6:37:46 GMT
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You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Jun 5, 2018 9:30:50 GMT
A good fun romp, enjoyable way to pass 2 cinematic hours. The film did not take many risks, but it didn't really need to.
It deserves better box office takings than it seems to be getting.
The one thing I kept expecting that didn't happen was for Han to say to Q'ira "I love you" and her to reply "I know".
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2018 18:41:09 GMT
The one thing I kept expecting that didn't happen was for Han to say to Q'ira "I love you" and her to reply "I know". That would have been even worse than when he said "I've got a good feeling about this." |
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