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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2018 23:34:17 GMT
Did it make a reference to God? I can't remember. It basically debunked Satan. But having a monster that is practically Satan isn't exactly a unique idea, and the majority of people in the UK don't believe in Hell anymore anyway from the looks of things, so doing a monster like The Beast isn't really infringing on anyone's beliefs. Although it has to be said, there can't actually be a definitive take on anything in Doctor Who, someone will come and contradict it at some point later anyway.
In the accompanying Doctor Who Confidential episode, the production team talk about it being left open to the viewer, we're never given a definitive answer. (Sorry Nucules, I swore I hit reply with quote) It's very much a response to Pryamids of Mars.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2018 8:17:34 GMT
Did it make a reference to God? I can't remember. It basically debunked Satan. But having a monster that is practically Satan isn't exactly a unique idea, and the majority of people in the UK don't believe in Hell anymore anyway from the looks of things, so doing a monster like The Beast isn't really infringing on anyone's beliefs. Although it has to be said, there can't actually be a definitive take on anything in Doctor Who, someone will come and contradict it at some point later anyway. Well, The Daemons and Azal. This is where the Eternals come into things as well and especially beings like Death from the VNA period Yeah, you can definitely make an argument for elemental forces in the Doctor Who universe. Particularly also given the existence of creatures like the Guardians who are said to represent the balance of chaos and order. In general, though, faith in any sort of higher power is a subject I think best explored through a story's characters as the situation merits. We learn a little of Gautama Buddha, if the TARDIS arrives at a Buddhist monastery. We learn a little of sacrifice to Huitzilopochtli, if the TARDIS arrives at an Aztec temple. We learn a little of the Holy Trinity, if the TARDIS arrives at the First Council of Nicaea. And so on. Through that lens, done respectfully, I don't see the harm in the occasional glance that way. |
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Post by mrperson on Jun 25, 2018 22:21:55 GMT
Isn't The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit the definitive take on the subject moving forward?
It struck me as just about the closest to an explicit religious thing I've seen TV/audio come, but it also struck me as having been approached the same way: Something alien, not necessarily the human conception of a "The God", but a being with arguably God-like qualities like Fenric & the "old Gods" or the Guardians.
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You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Jun 26, 2018 10:38:45 GMT
(DISCLAIMER: This is not a thread for debating the merits and issues of organized religion, or to trounce or demean anyone's personal beliefs.)
So, standard procedure in Who has been if it's an god, it's an alien or other dimensional being (Sutkeh, Azal, Cronos, Omega to some degree). However, some stories do suggest a 'higher power' may not necessarily be the result of total imposters and, perhaps, there are bigger mysteries (even 2 makes a reference in Three Doctors). Does anyone have an thought of where this would leave the Judeo-Christian (and, to a degree Islamic, given the relation) God?
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