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Post by nucleusofswarm on Sept 21, 2018 23:05:11 GMT
So, we've done threads before on actors we'd like to see play the Doctor, but let's go back to names that were actually thrown around as possible ones for past TV incarnations. For example, Ron Moody for 3, Graham Crowden for 4, Tim Curry for 8 etc. (More info, read here.)
Who would you have liked to see?
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Post by J.A. Prentice on Sept 21, 2018 23:33:14 GMT
Thanks to Neil Gaiman we know that Eleven was almost a well-known black actor – probably either Ejiofor or Patterson Joseph. Much as I like Matt Smith, I would have loved to see either of them.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2018 23:54:22 GMT
Sacha Dhawan for 13 (or 14).
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Sept 22, 2018 0:34:32 GMT
Sacha Dhawan for 13 (or 14). 13? 14 (or 15) maybe. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2018 1:51:42 GMT
Hmm...  Richard Griffiths, judging from Pie in the Sky, could've ended up a very interesting Eighth Doctor had the show continued into uninterrupted into the 1990s. I'd have paid very good money to see Richard O'Brien tackle the role. If only because I haven't a clue what his incarnation would have acted like. Joanna Lumley, playing the role straight rather than in a comedic setting. She's got a lot of Doctorish qualities in her World Travels series. It's not on a prior shortlist, but I think Peter Woodward from his role as Galen in Crusade could've been a brilliant Doctor-that-never-was. You always get this sense that he knows more than he's letting on, almost like he's puppeteering that bipedal human form for the benefit of those around him. He has a rich emotional architecture. Same with Lenny Henry. I really enjoyed the spoof, but I'd loved to see him have a crack at playing the role straight.
Doot-de-doot~ And to do right by our lovely authors, we've a very good line in alternate Doctors here on the Divergent Wordsmiths website, check it out if you're interested.  |
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Sept 22, 2018 2:40:51 GMT
Michael Ripper as the second Doctor - a fussy, polite little man who doesn’t like being the centre of attention.
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Post by J.A. Prentice on Sept 22, 2018 6:29:49 GMT
Hmm... Richard Griffiths, judging from Pie in the Sky, could've ended up a very interesting Eighth Doctor had the show continued into uninterrupted into the 1990s. I'd have paid very good money to see Richard O'Brien tackle the role. If only because I haven't a clue what his incarnation would have acted like.
Joanna Lumley, playing the role straight rather than in a comedic setting. She's got a lot of Doctorish qualities in her World Travels series.
It's not on a prior shortlist, but I think Peter Woodward from his role as Galen in Crusade could've been a brilliant Doctor-that-never-was. You always get this sense that he knows more than he's letting on, almost like he's puppeteering that bipedal human form for the benefit of those around him. He has a rich emotional architecture. Same with Lenny Henry. I really enjoyed the spoof, but I'd loved to see him have a crack at playing the role straight.
Doot-de-doot~ And to do right by our lovely authors, we've a very good line in alternate Doctors here on the Divergent Wordsmiths website, check it out if you're interested. The trouble with both of them is that they could nail the role playing it straight, but I'd be afraid of the writers/directors deciding they should play up the comedy too much. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2018 11:10:18 GMT
Hmm... Richard Griffiths, judging from Pie in the Sky, could've ended up a very interesting Eighth Doctor had the show continued into uninterrupted into the 1990s. I'd have paid very good money to see Richard O'Brien tackle the role. If only because I haven't a clue what his incarnation would have acted like.
Joanna Lumley, playing the role straight rather than in a comedic setting. She's got a lot of Doctorish qualities in her World Travels series.
It's not on a prior shortlist, but I think Peter Woodward from his role as Galen in Crusade could've been a brilliant Doctor-that-never-was. You always get this sense that he knows more than he's letting on, almost like he's puppeteering that bipedal human form for the benefit of those around him. He has a rich emotional architecture. Same with Lenny Henry. I really enjoyed the spoof, but I'd loved to see him have a crack at playing the role straight.
Doot-de-doot~ And to do right by our lovely authors, we've a very good line in alternate Doctors here on the Divergent Wordsmiths website, check it out if you're interested. The trouble with both of them is that they could nail the role playing it straight, but I'd be afraid of the writers/directors deciding they should play up the comedy too much. Yeah, and it's funny because a lot of comedians do pathos extremely well. Leslie Nielsen, for instance, was a phenomenal straight actor for years before Airplane, but there'd be this very strong temptation to overplay the humour because that's what they're known for. A production executive may see that as the source of their particular brand of star power. It'd have to be handled very carefully. Maybe let the actors bring whatever sense of levity they like, but not lean into it for the writing too much? |
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Sept 22, 2018 11:54:14 GMT
Anthony Stewart Head i think would have made a great Doctor. He can play lots of different ways, so what mixture he would have done would have been amazing
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Post by thethirddoctor on Sept 22, 2018 13:24:52 GMT
I quite enjoyed the first 3 BF Unbound Doctors, not so the last 3.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2018 15:06:03 GMT
I think Jon Pertwee demonstrated how quickly the writers or at least Terrance Dicks as script editor, responded to the fact that he had chosen to play the role as a straight man as opposed to utilising his comedic strengths And it very much set the tone for the series as a more adult oriented or at least 'grown up' appeal to a maturing audience. So; a big what if? Suppose they had got Patrick McGoohan, David McCallum or Patrick Macnee as the Third Doctor? Would they have been too conventional, would they have hammed it up as kids TV acting? Or would they have treated the role with the respect that Pertwee did, as he saw it as his chance to prove his acting chops? I know that Fulton Mackay was another potential Third Doctor, any opinions on how he may have turned out? Certainly, thankfully we did not get Mr Pastry. Here he is playing for the crowds in a celebrity cricket match in the 1950's. The eagle eyed will spot Jon Pertwee (coming on to bat 5:45 ish) in the team. Celebrity Cricket 1950's |
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Post by iainmclaughlin on Sept 22, 2018 15:31:51 GMT
I'm in the minority who would love to see what Hugh Grant would bring to the role. I really think he's underrated as an actor (perhaps less so after the recent Jeremy Thorpe drama) and I think he would be a charming, witty Doctor who would hide his steel behind that charm. I love Christopher Eccleston's Doctor but I think Hugh Grant would have been something special too.
Jim Dale is an actor I really like. His Carry On stuff is obviously great for those films, but he's got a lot more to him than the Carry Ons. I think he would have been a terrific, youthful, energetic Doctor with a touch of Tennant about him.
And if I was forced to pick an alternative Doctor who was never mentioned in potential casting... if Patrick Troughton had turned the TARDIS down in 1966 I'd have gone for James Robertson Justice.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2018 15:40:09 GMT
I'm in the minority who would love to see what Hugh Grant would bring to the role. I really think he's underrated as an actor (perhaps less so after the recent Jeremy Thorpe drama) and I think he would be a charming, witty Doctor who would hide his steel behind that charm. I love Christopher Eccleston's Doctor but I think Hugh Grant would have been something special too. Jim Dale is an actor I really like. His Carry On stuff is obviously great for those films, but he's got a lot more to him than the Carry Ons. I think he would have been a terrific, youthful, energetic Doctor with a touch of Tennant about him. And if I was forced to pick an alternative Doctor who was never mentioned in potential casting... if Patrick Troughton had turned the TARDIS down in 1966 I'd have gone for James Robertson Justice. Excellent suggestions - far more suited to 'The Doctor' than the ITC fare I myself cited. |
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Post by tuigirl on Sept 22, 2018 19:33:48 GMT
I know it is not really an alternate casting, but I would have loved (and still do) to see more of McGann on screen...
And David Warner. Wasn't he even considered as a Doctor once upon a time?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 3:03:55 GMT
I know it is not really an alternate casting, but I would have loved (and still do) to see more of McGann on screen... And David Warner. Wasn't he even considered as a Doctor once upon a time? David Warner might've been one of the candidates considered for the TV Movie. I remember him being Peter Davison's pick for a NuWho Doctor in one of the Wilderness Years documentaries. I think Jon Pertwee demonstrated how quickly the writers or at least Terrance Dicks as script editor, responded to the fact that he had chosen to play the role as a straight man as opposed to utilising his comedic strengths And it very much set the tone for the series as a more adult oriented or at least 'grown up' appeal to a maturing audience. So; a big what if? Suppose they had got Patrick McGoohan, David McCallum or Patrick Macnee as the Third Doctor? Would they have been too conventional, would they have hammed it up as kids TV acting? Or would they have treated the role with the respect that Pertwee did, as he saw it as his chance to prove his acting chops? I know that Fulton Mackay was another potential Third Doctor, any opinions on how he may have turned out? Certainly, thankfully we did not get Mr Pastry. Here he is playing for the crowds in a celebrity cricket match in the 1950's. The eagle eyed will spot Jon Pertwee (coming on to bat 5:45 ish) in the team. Celebrity Cricket 1950'sIt's interesting you mention David McCallum -- I wonder how different his Doctor would have been from Steel in Sapphire and Steel? A bit softer, maybe? He was a gymnast before he became an actor and did a lot of his own stunts, so it's possible we might've had an incarnation just as athletic as Pertwee for his tenure. A bit quieter, though. Maybe more introverted. A touch of Five and Seven. |
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Post by number13 on Sept 23, 2018 17:06:06 GMT
Some names not on that wiki list:
Anthony Valentine (ITV's Raffles) for the Fifth Doctor - full of charm with a hint of steel. (And Raffles was a cricketer - for England, no less!)
As you all know, I'm a Pertwee fan and would never have changed him but - Robert Hardy for the Third Doctor. |
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