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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2021 18:28:55 GMT
Gone where? "I need to be with my children at this time". I assume he is sleeping on the couch then. Let's just hope it's not Mrs. Coladangelo's couch! If he's feeling out in the cold, all he needs to do is conduct an interview with the press rubbishing the government, and all his detractors will be his friends again. Seriously though, I think this is probably the only thing he could have done given the situation.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2021 18:44:59 GMT
Gone where? "I need to be with my children at this time". I assume he is sleeping on the couch then. Let's just hope it's not Mrs. Coladangelo's couch! If he's feeling out in the cold, all he needs to do is conduct an interview with the press rubbishing the government, and all his detractors will be his friends again. Seriously though, I think this is probably the only thing he could have done given the situation. Absolutely. This was one that wasn't going to just 'lie down'. Hopefully he's put it to bed now. These things just write themselves don't they?
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Jun 26, 2021 18:59:27 GMT
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Jun 26, 2021 19:16:57 GMT
Gone where? "I need to be with my children at this time". I assume he is sleeping on the couch then. Let's just hope it's not Mrs. Coladangelo's couch! If he's feeling out in the cold, all he needs to do is conduct an interview with the press rubbishing the government, and all his detractors will be his friends again. Putting Matt in the dustbin for a mo, I hang around progressive circles online, and I've yet to hear one person say any version of 'Cummings is a good guy': everyone I know or follow still hates his guts, he just happens to corroborate things already known or had strong grounds for suspicion, so I'm not sure what 'mass forgiveness' you're referring to.
But either way, like with wallpaper, it's key to remember that the anger isn't about how Matt took all the spice out of liasons: it's the giant slap in the face to every family that stayed apart, on his advice, and wasn't able to see sadly lost relatives while he was going about, Hanning his y'know.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2021 19:22:59 GMT
Good. A steady pair of hands to guide the tiller.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2021 19:39:02 GMT
Let's just hope it's not Mrs. Coladangelo's couch! If he's feeling out in the cold, all he needs to do is conduct an interview with the press rubbishing the government, and all his detractors will be his friends again. Putting Matt in the dustbin for a mo, I hang around progressive circles online, and I've yet to hear one person say any version of 'Cummings is a good guy': everyone I know or follow still hates his guts, he just happens to corroborate things already known or had strong grounds for suspicion, so I'm not sure what 'mass forgiveness' you're referring to.
But either way, like with wallpaper, it's key to remember that the anger is about how Matt took all the spice out of liasons: it's the giant slap in the face to every family that stayed apart, on his advice, and wasn't able to see sadly lost relatives while he was going about, Hanning his y'know.
My quote continued with 'seriously though', to make my final point, which was meant to indicate my comments up until that moment were meant in light-hearted manner. My words were just that, and not meant to take less than seriously what Matt Hancock had done, and repercussions of that. My wish is that our politicians are better than this, but there's nothing I can do about it when they aren't. My natural recourse, both in real life and on this forum, is not to take these people seriously, and I appreciate not everyone agrees with that approach.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2021 19:58:33 GMT
Putting Matt in the dustbin for a mo, I hang around progressive circles online, and I've yet to hear one person say any version of 'Cummings is a good guy': everyone I know or follow still hates his guts, he just happens to corroborate things already known or had strong grounds for suspicion, so I'm not sure what 'mass forgiveness' you're referring to.
But either way, like with wallpaper, it's key to remember that the anger is about how Matt took all the spice out of liasons: it's the giant slap in the face to every family that stayed apart, on his advice, and wasn't able to see sadly lost relatives while he was going about, Hanning his y'know.
My quote continued with 'seriously though', to make my final point, which was meant to indicate my comments up until that moment were meant in light-hearted manner. My words were just that, and not meant to take less than seriously what Matt Hancock had done, and repercussions of that. My wish is that our politicians are better than this, but there's nothing I can do about it when they aren't. My natural recourse, both in real life and on this forum, is not to take these people seriously, and I appreciate not everyone agrees with that approach. FWIW - I understood your ironical remark. 'To believe or not to believe' was the amused observation of many bystanders at the time, as to whether Dom was a still liar, or a now a reliable source. One does not signify a liking for him to judge that he may be telling the truth now, nor a belief that he was being honest when his own hide was on the fire. It does not belittle the seriousness of the malpractice to make light of it in our commenting. Its what we always do, and is the foundation of Satire.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Jun 26, 2021 20:06:01 GMT
My quote continued with 'seriously though', to make my final point, which was meant to indicate my comments up until that moment were meant in light-hearted manner. My words were just that, and not meant to take less than seriously what Matt Hancock had done, and repercussions of that. My wish is that our politicians are better than this, but there's nothing I can do about it when they aren't. My natural recourse, both in real life and on this forum, is not to take these people seriously, and I appreciate not everyone agrees with that approach. FWIW - I understood your ironical remark. 'To believe or not to believe' was the amused observation of many bystanders at the time, as to whether Dom was a still liar, or a now a reliable source. One does not signify a liking for him to judge that he may be telling the truth now, nor a belief that he was being honest when his own hide was on the fire. It does not belittle the seriousness of the malpractice to make light of it in our commenting. Its what we always do, and is the foundation of Satire. Now I'm certainly not above taking the mick with current events - you both saw me cracking about Boris's johnson last page. I agree it's a way to cope with what's going on and I'm not trying to take that away from anyone. It's unfortunate that, alas, I've seen responses like that written without an ounce of humour elsewhere and it can be hard to discern sometimes on my part.
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Jun 26, 2021 20:08:48 GMT
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Jun 26, 2021 20:56:34 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2021 21:08:42 GMT
Written in a hurry, hence a few typos, but an illuminative picture as to the level of anger and the literal powder keg ignited by his hypocrisy (too mild a word, many agree). Rumours were that more was on the way in the Sunday Papers. This is the quite reasonable but damning view from Boris' successor in The Speccie: www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-matt-hancock-had-to-goThe thing is, some of us here, like myself, may defend the 'best of a bad lot' approach, but for myself at least, there is no deep rooted loyalty. I have said before many times that I am not a true party political supporter (I have probably voted in equal measure for the three core parties these past 30 years). Some events bring into sharp relief the realities of the standards of those in key offices of state, who it has to be said, let one down. One can defend up to a point, on partisan lines, but lets not be mistaken that we are on opposing sides when we are essentially in agreement as to misdemeanours. I know from speaking to others that Boris has finished himself off in the views of supporters over his vacillation yesterday. In the spirit of Satire, Private Eye, which I collected from 1989 -2017 (before they lost their impartiality) were on point this week with the following pithy observation:
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Post by mark687 on Jun 26, 2021 21:25:22 GMT
Now that'll be interesting Regards mark687
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Post by Chakoteya on Jun 27, 2021 9:30:31 GMT
Now that'll be interesting Regards mark687 Well. at least DC isn't around to demand his advisors get replaced with more suitable people.
Now MH and GC have publically demolished two established family groups, I do hope they're not planning to buy a place together by the seaside. There's enough germs flying around here already.
(It's the children I feel sorry for, having such selfish, immature parents.)
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Jun 27, 2021 10:19:21 GMT
Now that'll be interesting Regards mark687 It will, the man accused of 'human fly-tipping' in the Shamima Begum case is our new Health Secretary.
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Jun 27, 2021 14:37:14 GMT
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Post by Chakoteya on Jun 27, 2021 15:21:31 GMT
It'll be up to his local party and the constituents to decide if they want to recall him or leave him in situ. That's the law, that's the system we have. Because I very much doubt he will create yet another by-election by doing the 'honourable' thing. They're just Members of Parliament now, not Honourable Members.
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Jun 27, 2021 18:05:08 GMT
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Jun 28, 2021 16:35:35 GMT
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Jun 28, 2021 16:41:01 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2021 6:21:06 GMT
Wonder if he allowed to take the plant that he hides behind with him?
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