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Post by Whovitt on Apr 30, 2021 13:59:49 GMT
I had a thought when this came out but never got around to actually checking - when Ian's on the phone to Barbara, it really sounds like he's talking to Jacqueline Hill, but it was in some way distorted, probably reversed. While it turns out I was right about the dialogue being reversed, it doesn't seem to be dialogue taken from Jacqueline's TV episodes (though it could her voice from something else; truth be told, the sound's so murky it could be anyone). I've just processed the relevant section and this is what I was able to deduce (the voice is very muffled and unclear in some sections, so I can't be certain of everything she says): Ian: Hello? Barbara? "Barbara": I think this time it really is the end of the Daleks. Ian: I'll check the cupboards, but I think we've run out. "Barbara": They're sounding the drums of [something, possibly "attack"]. Their city was all but destroyed. Ian: We do have cinnamon sticks, but... "Barbara": Living in a world that doesn't seem... Ian: Good grief. "Barbara": [inaudible] Ian: No, you're not imagining it. It's materialising in front of me right now. No. It's making the noise but it's not a police box. Actually, it's in the shape of a refrigerator. Well, he did always say he'd fix it one day, didn't he? "Barbara": Oh, Ian. Ian: The door's opening. Veklin: Ian Chesterton? Ian: Yes. Is the Doctor with you? Veklin: No. I need you to come with me. Ian: What? "Barbara": ...had to cut her clothes off for the surgeon to be... Ian: No, it isn't the Doctor. It's a woman. Veklin: I also need you to end that call. Nobody can know about this mission. Ian: Mission? Veklin: End the call now. Ian: I'll see you in a bit, Barbara. "Barbara": Goodbye. Not sure if this is really of any interest to anyone, but I thought I'd share it just in case  I honestly can't believe this - I've just discovered the bolded section in The Hollow Crown!!! It's "They're sounding the drums at the tower" (Episode Four, Track 04; 1:36)! Also, a mere 9 seconds later she says, "Living in a world that doesn't value honour anymore" (see the follow-up quote in the sequence). Then, at 1:56 of the same track she says, "Oh, Ian", followed by, "I had to cut her clothes off so the surgeon could attend to the wound," at 2:03. That suggests that all the dialogue in this conversation is actually various quotes of Jemma Powell's version of Barbara. It would certainly make sense of the Dalek quote that I couldn't identify; it's probably from Return to Skaro  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2021 21:07:07 GMT
I had a thought when this came out but never got around to actually checking - when Ian's on the phone to Barbara, it really sounds like he's talking to Jacqueline Hill, but it was in some way distorted, probably reversed. While it turns out I was right about the dialogue being reversed, it doesn't seem to be dialogue taken from Jacqueline's TV episodes (though it could her voice from something else; truth be told, the sound's so murky it could be anyone). I've just processed the relevant section and this is what I was able to deduce (the voice is very muffled and unclear in some sections, so I can't be certain of everything she says): Ian: Hello? Barbara? "Barbara": I think this time it really is the end of the Daleks. Ian: I'll check the cupboards, but I think we've run out. "Barbara": They're sounding the drums of [something, possibly "attack"]. Their city was all but destroyed. Ian: We do have cinnamon sticks, but... "Barbara": Living in a world that doesn't seem... Ian: Good grief. "Barbara": [inaudible] Ian: No, you're not imagining it. It's materialising in front of me right now. No. It's making the noise but it's not a police box. Actually, it's in the shape of a refrigerator. Well, he did always say he'd fix it one day, didn't he? "Barbara": Oh, Ian. Ian: The door's opening. Veklin: Ian Chesterton? Ian: Yes. Is the Doctor with you? Veklin: No. I need you to come with me. Ian: What? "Barbara": ...had to cut her clothes off for the surgeon to be... Ian: No, it isn't the Doctor. It's a woman. Veklin: I also need you to end that call. Nobody can know about this mission. Ian: Mission? Veklin: End the call now. Ian: I'll see you in a bit, Barbara. "Barbara": Goodbye. Not sure if this is really of any interest to anyone, but I thought I'd share it just in case I honestly can't believe this - I've just discovered the bolded section in The Hollow Crown!!! It's "They're sounding the drums at the tower" (Episode Four, Track 04; 1:36)! Also, a mere 9 seconds later she says, "Living in a world that doesn't value honour anymore" (see the follow-up quote in the sequence). Then, at 1:56 of the same track she says, "Oh, Ian", followed by, "I had to cut her clothes off so the surgeon could attend to the wound," at 2:03. That suggests that all the dialogue in this conversation is actually various quotes of Jemma Powell's version of Barbara. It would certainly make sense of the Dalek quote that I couldn't identify; it's probably from Return to Skaro Hey, congrats, looks like you've found an Easter egg! Howard Carter looks to have done the sound design for both stories (and Return to Skaro, so getting a clip from there seems rather likely). Neat. I didn't know that the composers did that. I wonder if it's a one-off thing or if little snippets of yet-to-be-released stories have been slipped into the ambient sound for a while and we've not noticed? Something to keep an ear out for the future, I suppose. That's very cool. |
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Post by theillusiveman on May 1, 2021 5:19:30 GMT
Its also to note that The Cameo of The First Doctor in the last episode comes from The Glory of Urth so thats kinda neat
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