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Post by icecreamdf on Dec 3, 2015 22:13:55 GMT
It was the number of children on Gallifrey. I love the way Tennant snarls that out. The eleventh Doctor is dithering in the background and the tenth just pours out his anger in one line, and then directs it not at War (who he knows hasn't done it yet, given he remembers regenerating just afterwards) but at eleven for apparently forgetting their greatest sin. Ten thought War had already destroyed Gallifrey. He said "it must be really recent for you" when talking about it to War. Clara was the only one who could tell he hadn't done it yet.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Dec 4, 2015 13:14:26 GMT
Thats right she says its something about his eyes if i remember
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Post by constonks on Dec 4, 2015 13:55:09 GMT
As for "what you'd like to hear..." War, Leela and K9. War meeting a past self. War meeting Jago and Litefoot. War pulling a "it's for the greater good" and blowing up someone's planet. An inversion of the traditional "someone is murdered, the Doctor arrives and is blamed, and goes on to find the real culprit" where he IS the killer, because the victim was/will become a Dalek agent. Vaarga plants. All of that. And Romana and Ace and Braxiatel and Narvin.
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Post by kurumais on Dec 4, 2015 16:09:38 GMT
The count of kids on Gallifery. Was it children or people, though? I forget. It was the number of children on Gallifrey. so thats the very last moment of the war. the rest of the war he could be mr niceguy. same old doctor which i hope he isnt. this doctor this wr doctor should be very very different otherwise 8 should have fought the war. otherwise its just stunt casting with john hurt
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Post by icecreamdf on Dec 4, 2015 16:29:49 GMT
It was the number of children on Gallifrey. so thats the very last moment of the war. the rest of the war he could be mr niceguy. same old doctor which i hope he isnt. this doctor this wr doctor should be very very different otherwise 8 should have fought the war. otherwise its just stunt casting with john hurt He already refused to be called the Doctor by that point though. Between that, and Twelve's speech in The Zygon Inversion, I think he must have done plenty of other terrible things.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Dec 5, 2015 13:56:23 GMT
Have him destroy and entire system, so that the Daleks dont get their grubby little tentacles on some maguffins. But he gives as many ships as he can enough time to get out before he blows it
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Post by mbt66 on Dec 5, 2015 15:52:25 GMT
Have him destroy and entire system, so that the Daleks dont get their grubby little tentacles on some maguffins. But he gives as many ships as he can enough time to get out before he blows it Still at heart the Doctor, but perhaps the polar opposite to his predecessor - for him it is more of a numbers game where the lives of the many do out weigh the lifes of the few or the life of the one.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Dec 5, 2015 17:15:00 GMT
Have him destroy and entire system, so that the Daleks dont get their grubby little tentacles on some maguffins. But he gives as many ships as he can enough time to get out before he blows it Still at heart the Doctor, but perhaps the polar opposite to his predecessor - for him it is more of a numbers game where the lives of the many do out weigh the lifes of the few or the life of the one. Thats true, i just thought thats the best route in regards to the BBC saying he cant, just go and kill willy Nilly (Or Milli Vanilli) for that matter
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Post by Ela on Dec 6, 2015 6:40:17 GMT
I re-watched The Day of the Doctor today and seeing John Hurt as the War Doctor again as really got me psyched for this series.
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Post by nottenst on Dec 6, 2015 20:33:38 GMT
In last night's series finale there were a few references to the Time War. Did Big Finish possibly get a heads-up on any of them so they could incorporate them into this series?
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Post by kfbate on Dec 7, 2015 7:30:09 GMT
Just a thought, someone asked me a question over this in the office, a fellow Big Finish fan, and said, with the imminent release of the first War Doctor box set, how would you explain to someone coming into listening to it from this release, for the first time, would you recommend, them listening, watching, or reading even, so that, when settling back to listen to Big Finish Only The Monstrous, it would put them in the right place to fully enjoy it and also give it context. I have my own ideas/philosophy and conjecture on this, but, I would love to hear what others interpretation of how to effectively "jump on" would be. Thoughts anyone ?
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Dec 7, 2015 8:25:12 GMT
Just a thought, someone asked me a question over this in the office, a fellow Big Finish fan, and said, with the imminent release of the first War Doctor box set, how would you explain to someone coming into listening to it from this release, for the first time, would you recommend, them listening, watching, or reading even, so that, when settling back to listen to Big Finish Only The Monstrous, it would put them in the right place to fully enjoy it and also give it context. I have my own ideas/philosophy and conjecture on this, but, I would love to hear what others interpretation of how to effectively "jump on" would be. Thoughts anyone ? I'd say "watch Day of the Doctor", read "Engines of War" and perhaps "Seasons of War" if you can track down a copy. Ohh and watch that speech from "Zygon Inversion"."
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Post by kfbate on Dec 7, 2015 10:37:19 GMT
Just a thought, someone asked me a question over this in the office, a fellow Big Finish fan, and said, with the imminent release of the first War Doctor box set, how would you explain to someone coming into listening to it from this release, for the first time, would you recommend, them listening, watching, or reading even, so that, when settling back to listen to Big Finish Only The Monstrous, it would put them in the right place to fully enjoy it and also give it context. I have my own ideas/philosophy and conjecture on this, but, I would love to hear what others interpretation of how to effectively "jump on" would be. Thoughts anyone ? I'd say "watch Day of the Doctor", read "Engines of War" and perhaps "Seasons of War" if you can track down a copy. Ohh and watch that speech from "Zygon Inversion"." Good reply I hadn't thought of the Seasons of War bit, it like "can't see the wood for the trees" brains was all over the place when I started to think this through after the discussion with fellow office worker.
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Post by icecreamdf on Dec 7, 2015 19:01:23 GMT
I hope the General is in one of these boxsets. That's probably the only way that we can get more of the Ken Bones version of the character. Maybe they can even give him/her a name. Imagine how pissed off fans would be if the Doctor just casually called him Romana or the Rani. Neither of those two would really fit with the character, but it would still be hilarious.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Dec 7, 2015 20:37:52 GMT
Ken Bones was the tenth incarnation, and let the Doctor shoot him. We've met three Romanas and two Ranis, a lot can happen to a person in seven odd regenerations.
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Post by icecreamdf on Dec 7, 2015 21:09:20 GMT
Ken Bones was the tenth incarnation, and let the Doctor shoot him. We've met three Romanas and two Ranis, a lot can happen to a person in seven odd regenerations. I don't think the Doctor would shoot Romana, and I don't think the Rani would be reasonable. I also don't think either of them would serve in the army. Still, if the Time War can turn the Doctor into a warrior, who knows what it did to other Time Lords.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Dec 7, 2015 21:35:47 GMT
In the books, the "new" (it's never really defined as to which incarnation) Romana can best be described as "Servelan". And that's because there was a Time War looming.
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Post by Ela on Dec 8, 2015 0:24:18 GMT
In the books, the "new" (it's never really defined as to which incarnation) Romana can best be described as "Servelan". And that's because there was a Time War looming. In the books I read I didn't think she was like Servalan. Which books are you talking about?
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Dec 8, 2015 5:58:39 GMT
In the books, the "new" (it's never really defined as to which incarnation) Romana can best be described as "Servelan". And that's because there was a Time War looming. In the books I read I didn't think she was like Servalan. Which books are you talking about? Shadow of Avalon - Romana's plan: 1. Invade a sovereign extradimensional nation. 2. Send agents to cause a war. 3. Emotionally abuse, it not out right torture if necessary a companion of the Doctor in order to make her become a TARDIS. 4. Send said companion, once she has evolved into a TARDIS to a rape camp where she will be forced to breed the next generation of TARDISes.
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Post by Ela on Dec 8, 2015 17:19:13 GMT
In the books I read I didn't think she was like Servalan. Which books are you talking about? Shadow of Avalon - Romana's plan: 1. Invade a sovereign extradimensional nation. 2. Send agents to cause a war. 3. Emotionally abuse, it not out right torture if necessary a companion of the Doctor in order to make her become a TARDIS. 4. Send said companion, once she has evolved into a TARDIS to a rape camp where she will be forced to breed the next generation of TARDISes. Yeah, I remember that book. I don't remember Romana being as bad as Servalan, though.
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