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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Dec 8, 2015 21:27:07 GMT
You're right, even Servelan would baulk at a rape camp established for one person.
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Post by aztec on Dec 9, 2015 12:39:22 GMT
Realistically I don't think BF is likely to tackle the War Doctor's early years (at least in full cast audios) to a great degree, for a few simple reasons
A) The Time War is such a mystical larger than life conflict in Who's canon that exploring the conflict at its very start or height may ruin the magic a little, and the BBC might not be too keen on licensing stories that delve too far away from the established character of the Doctor.
B) Hurt tried his best in NOTD, but he doesn't really sound like his younger self that much i.m.o (though you could write around that, maybe his imposing, weary voice is the mark of a experienced soldier or something...) and there might be rights issues involved in sourcing photographs of his younger self from earlier productions, though I suppose they could just have Hurt narrate audiobooks, rather than full cast dramas for the earlier years of the conflict
C) It's probably easier to work with the personality of the War Doctor established in DOTD (grizzled, intelligent warrior, but also self loathing old man at his wits end) and work backwards to meet the character in the middle of his life, rather than start right at the start and write a totally new personality, obviously one of the big draws of the war doctor, is his anti-doctorness and implied brutal/callous actions, but it's going to a be a very difficult balancing act bringing in new listeners, but not alienating those who grew to love his personality in DOTD. At least with McGann's doctor (who was arguably portrayed as fairly generic in the TV Movie), when the audios started there had already been several years worth of novels and comics that had expanded on his character traits/personality and built up an increased fanbase for his doctor that the audios could use to inform the writing of his doctor, with Hurt's Doctor there's even more of a blank slate...that's arguably both a benefit and a hindrance from a writing point of view.
I'd certainly like to see The War Doctor's earlier years be explored in more detail, whether that be on audio or in novels (A little surprised the BBC still hasn't considered a time war line of novels actually, Engines of War seems very popular) but I'm not totally convinced it's likely to happen...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2015 13:01:00 GMT
Shadow of Avalon - Romana's plan: 1. Invade a sovereign extradimensional nation. 2. Send agents to cause a war. 3. Emotionally abuse, it not out right torture if necessary a companion of the Doctor in order to make her become a TARDIS. 4. Send said companion, once she has evolved into a TARDIS to a rape camp where she will be forced to breed the next generation of TARDISes. Yeah, I remember that book. I don't remember Romana being as bad as Servalan, though. Considering her final words in The Gallifrey Chronicles are "I can't let this happen to my people!", I'm very much inclined to agree with you. After a certain point, Servalan detached herself from the Federation and struck out to forge her own power base because ultimately the alien invasion and the subsequent civil war had rendered her previous position untenable. Romana on the other hand, never seemed to waver in her devotion to the enduring legacy of the Time Lords. The War became so bad that survival at all costs became the motive of the day and you had to start wondering whether or not the Gallifreyans were worth saving anymore.
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Post by Ela on Dec 10, 2015 15:18:50 GMT
Yeah, I remember that book. I don't remember Romana being as bad as Servalan, though. Considering her final words in The Gallifrey Chronicles are "I can't let this happen to my people!", I'm very much inclined to agree with you. After a certain point, Servalan detached herself from the Federation and struck out to forge her own power base because ultimately the alien invasion and the subsequent civil war had rendered her previous position untenable. Romana on the other hand, never seemed to waver in her devotion to the enduring legacy of the Time Lords. The War became so bad that survival at all costs became the motive of the day and you had to start wondering whether or not the Gallifreyans were worth saving anymore. Very good points, wolfie.
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