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Post by sidestep on Nov 26, 2022 1:23:21 GMT
This is good advice Davy for completists or budding completists that is rarely said when they were newbies. šš» (But understandable since weāre trying to get them to dip their toe into the wonderful world of audio, & donāt want to overwhelm them with āget the 12 volume subscription ā or the ā3 boxset bundleā or the ā6 volume bundleā. š± This happened to me with Torchwood. I cherry-picked releases of the characters I liked, plots that interested me, & avoided some. In the end, I found myself with the ācompleteā collection of all Big Finish Torchwood (so far) albeit at increased cost, since I missed out on several bundle sales & instead bought various individual volumes or monthlies on sale. Hence my last TW purchases that filled all the gaps, thankfully, at sale price & before the huge international currency adjustment. TW MR 25, 26, 28, 30, 32, 37, 38, 41, 43, 48, 49, 50x, 52, 58, 59, & Aliens Among Us vol. 1. All bought at sale price but not at sale bundle price or in the case of the newer releases, subscription. Know better now, though, & am subscribed to the current TW MR. Similar thing happened in the Doctor Who MR. Started with cherry-picking (thankfully just a few) before realizing then committing to getting everything on subscription to complete the Subscriber Short Trips & extended interviews (which I really like, some more than the story itself lol) & the scripts). š But happy about it. š Terrific examples! And obviously if someone is more specific - "Is this a good story to get into...", its easier to be subjective. Otherwise I think it's always best to find out what the person likes if they aren't intent on being a completist. I mean I have seen "No, don't buy so-and-so, it's a comedy story and I don't like comedy in my Doctor Who...." etc, when really "Do you like comedy in YOUR Doctor Who?" should be the post. I try and come at it from both sides, as someone who is lucky enough to be sent items for review now for both my channel on YT and the larger ones I appear on I try and be subjective to my opinion. Yet also try and always bear in mind how it must feel as someone with THOUSANDS of stories staring at them with a terrible website, a million "it's a great jumping on point" cliches from BF and more ranges than most comparable companies have releases. I truly empathise with anyone coming into BF now. I've no idea how you would - it must be the most tangled web that those of us who were there as it was being spun can't really appreciate. The last thing we want to do is recommend a story that puts someone off but, generally, I think posters are pretty good at adding a bit of context when someone is a bit lost during sales. I think tying oneself to a genre narrows choices though. If one avoids comedy but likes horror or drama, or vice versa, a lot of Doctor Who stories are a mix. Example, Castle of Fear, or Doctor Who and the Pirates? The Holy Terror? Heck, even the Piscon Paradox isnāt purely funny or the Iris stories
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Post by Kestrel on Nov 26, 2022 2:08:16 GMT
..Sometimes it frustrates that an incredibly specific story doesn't work and the chance was wasted. Oof, yeah, the "wasted potential" stories are the worst, easily. A just plain bad story? That's usually pretty easy to forget. But a story that should've been great, but wasn't? That'll linger in your memory forever. For me the worst one was... I think the second 1DA boxset? The first story had one of those fantastically compelling premises... weighed down by a horrendous amount of racist claptrap. Which is bad enough, but the real kicker? It was in a boxset, so it wasn't alone. And the following story? Easily one of the very best 1st Doctor stories I've ever listened to -- or seen. That juxtaposition is just... brutal.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2022 5:35:53 GMT
Terrific examples! And obviously if someone is more specific - "Is this a good story to get into...", its easier to be subjective. Otherwise I think it's always best to find out what the person likes if they aren't intent on being a completist. I mean I have seen "No, don't buy so-and-so, it's a comedy story and I don't like comedy in my Doctor Who...." etc, when really "Do you like comedy in YOUR Doctor Who?" should be the post. I try and come at it from both sides, as someone who is lucky enough to be sent items for review now for both my channel on YT and the larger ones I appear on I try and be subjective to my opinion. Yet also try and always bear in mind how it must feel as someone with THOUSANDS of stories staring at them with a terrible website, a million "it's a great jumping on point" cliches from BF and more ranges than most comparable companies have releases. I truly empathise with anyone coming into BF now. I've no idea how you would - it must be the most tangled web that those of us who were there as it was being spun can't really appreciate. The last thing we want to do is recommend a story that puts someone off but, generally, I think posters are pretty good at adding a bit of context when someone is a bit lost during sales. I think tying oneself to a genre narrows choices though. If one avoids comedy but likes horror or drama, or vice versa, a lot of Doctor Who stories are a mix. Example, Castle of Fear, or Doctor Who and the Pirates? The Holy Terror? Heck, even the Piscon Paradox isnāt purely funny or the Iris stories Well, that's why there are sub-genres! I'm not actually much of a fan of labels. I dislike it in music especially but in those examples you can easily say "Do you like straight out comedy or do you prefer when there's pathos and something else underneath it?" It really is, to me, all about understanding the person's taste -which is much easier if they're a poster and you can see what...films they watch, what TV they like etc. Doctor Who And The Pirates is a masterpiece, especially Ep 4 but I couldn't recommend it to TImelord007 as he cannot get past the singing AT ALL. Holy Terror though, I would recommend to ANYONE. I've been on record as saying it's the best Doctor Who in any medium. I think it's now been surpassed, well, 5 years ago* by The Doctor Falls but the point stands. When you feel something is THAT good, I'd ignore EVERYTHING we've been discussing and blindly recommend it anyway. Ditto stories like Chimes or Jubilee, or on TV The Invasion, City Of Death, Androzani, Blink etc.
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Post by Timelord007 on Nov 26, 2022 9:15:09 GMT
I think tying oneself to a genre narrows choices though. If one avoids comedy but likes horror or drama, or vice versa, a lot of Doctor Who stories are a mix. Example, Castle of Fear, or Doctor Who and the Pirates? The Holy Terror? Heck, even the Piscon Paradox isnāt purely funny or the Iris stories Well, that's why there are sub-genres! I'm not actually much of a fan of labels. I dislike it in music especially but in those examples you can easily say "Do you like straight out comedy or do you prefer when there's pathos and something else underneath it?" It really is, to me, all about understanding the person's taste -which is much easier if they're a poster and you can see what...films they watch, what TV they like etc. Doctor Who And The Pirates is a masterpiece, especially Ep 4 but I couldn't recommend it to TImelord007 as he cannot get past the singing AT ALL. Holy Terror though, I would recommend to ANYONE. I've been on record as saying it's the best Doctor Who in any medium. I think it's now been surpassed, well, 5 years ago* by The Doctor Falls but the point stands. When you feel something is THAT good, I'd ignore EVERYTHING we've been discussing and blindly recommend it anyway. Ditto stories like Chimes or Jubilee, or on TV The Invasion, City Of Death, Androzani, Blink etc. Arrrghh the singing my arms my legs my everything.
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Post by tuigirl on Nov 26, 2022 14:42:14 GMT
I think tying oneself to a genre narrows choices though. If one avoids comedy but likes horror or drama, or vice versa, a lot of Doctor Who stories are a mix. Example, Castle of Fear, or Doctor Who and the Pirates? The Holy Terror? Heck, even the Piscon Paradox isnāt purely funny or the Iris stories Well, that's why there are sub-genres! I'm not actually much of a fan of labels. I dislike it in music especially but in those examples you can easily say "Do you like straight out comedy or do you prefer when there's pathos and something else underneath it?" It really is, to me, all about understanding the person's taste -which is much easier if they're a poster and you can see what...films they watch, what TV they like etc. Doctor Who And The Pirates is a masterpiece, especially Ep 4 but I couldn't recommend it to TImelord007 as he cannot get past the singing AT ALL. Holy Terror though, I would recommend to ANYONE. I've been on record as saying it's the best Doctor Who in any medium. I think it's now been surpassed, well, 5 years ago* by The Doctor Falls but the point stands. When you feel something is THAT good, I'd ignore EVERYTHING we've been discussing and blindly recommend it anyway. Ditto stories like Chimes or Jubilee, or on TV The Invasion, City Of Death, Androzani, Blink etc. I agree on āPiratesā as a great story with an important message. It is very well done. Even the singing fits. The change in tone, atmosphere and mood works perfectly. But I have great problems listening to it due to past trauma and losing 3 of my students during my years teaching at university to suicide. I just wish Evelyn and Sixie would have been there for them. Even with the singing. It is another of these stories that should feature a disclaimer. Adult themes and suicide or something along these lines.
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