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You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Aug 26, 2020 10:12:17 GMT
I'm surprised that the Tenth Doctor is in them all, as I thought it would be three different pairings. I'm surprised too. Slightly disappointed it's not 9, 11 or 12 - looks like BF didn't get Matt or Perter in the lockdown.
At the same time I'm glad it's not Warner or Bradley. Not that I have anything against either of them, but anything less than a NuWho doc would have felt like a bit of a let-down after the 4/10 team-up
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Post by theillusiveman on Aug 26, 2020 10:27:26 GMT
So that's at least seven things David's recorded in lockdown. I think we've had a hint of something else and we don't know if that's a set or the one story. Exciting times! From what we have: Out of Time #1
Out of Time #2: The Gates of Hell
Out of Time #3: Wink
Time Lord Victorious: Echoes of Extinction
10DA: Expiry Dating 10DA: Precious Annihilation 10DA: Ghosts {Spoiler} Dalek Universe: The Triumphant of Davros Any more to list?
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Post by antartiks on Aug 26, 2020 10:28:16 GMT
Just finished it. {Spoiler} The reference to Sarah Jane's "wedding" was unexpected but lovely.
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Post by OneTen on Aug 26, 2020 10:41:29 GMT
I notice from the quote in the news story that Tennant has let slip his view on recasts... "five Doctors didn’t really get together in the end but three Doctors and a man in a wig"
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Post by axelotl38 on Aug 26, 2020 10:51:30 GMT
So that's at least seven things David's recorded in lockdown. I think we've had a hint of something else and we don't know if that's a set or the one story. Exciting times! From what we have: Out of Time #1
Out of Time #2: The Gates of Hell
Out of Time #3: Wink
Time Lord Victorious: Echoes of Extinction
10DA: Expiry Dating 10DA: Precious Annihilation 10DA: Ghosts {Spoiler} Dalek Universe: The Triumphant of Davros Any more to list? There was the CV listings for the Dalek Universe/Empire/Planet/Whatevers under "Tenth Doctor Adventures", though we don't know in what context they are (if they're necessarily a series of 10DA's or etc).
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Aug 26, 2020 11:04:22 GMT
I notice from the quote in the news story that Tennant has let slip his view on recasts... "five Doctors didn’t really get together in the end but three Doctors and a man in a wig" Or it could just be an off the cuff remark, not necessarily a serious opinion on recasting the role of previous Doctors.
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You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Aug 26, 2020 11:06:01 GMT
I notice from the quote in the news story that Tennant has let slip his view on recasts... "five Doctors didn’t really get together in the end but three Doctors and a man in a wig" Maybe he was referring to someone else. Anthony Ainley?
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Post by antartiks on Aug 26, 2020 11:10:44 GMT
Well, Hartnell wore a wig too.
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Post by obluda on Aug 26, 2020 11:15:59 GMT
It's a shame Out of Time is just called Out of Time but the other two have got subtitles, but also understandable given how this series came about. It seems that the 10th Doctor can't get away from his other incarnations recently. 4, 5, and 6 (and 8 in a way, and 1 and 2 in cameo form) in the audios, 8 and 9 in the books, 13 in the comics, and War and 11 in the show although that was a few years ago now. It's beginning to look like the specials in the specials year were only "special" because they were the only adventures he had where he didn't bump into himself haha. Still, I'm not complaining. I agree about the title. Until this announcment I had assumed that Out of Time was just the title of the first story and was been used as a placeholder for the second and third entries in the trilogy until their titles were revealed.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2020 11:19:06 GMT
I notice from the quote in the news story that Tennant has let slip his view on recasts... "five Doctors didn’t really get together in the end but three Doctors and a man in a wig" He did that same line on the hidden commentary for The Five Doctors. He liked Hurndall for what he was doing though, he liked the performance - just not as a replacement Hartnell.
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Post by mark687 on Aug 26, 2020 11:28:42 GMT
Great stuff
Baker "schools" Tennant and Tennant just lets him!
I mean if even they're not your favorites you can't deny their 2 of the more self-assured in their performance
Its actually also a nice little sub-plot with Jorra and the general.
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Post by Kestrel on Aug 26, 2020 11:36:56 GMT
"Have I the right? Yes I do."
Well, that was a lot of fun. Not sure if I liked it more or less Han the last crossover story I experienced (The Light at the End) but I definitely appreciated how much more time they spent on the two iterations of the Doctor interacting with each other. I don't have much to say about the episode proper: it was a fun popcorn story with lots of fanservice, but nothing terribly interesting or compelling or otherwise worth talking about at length--which is kind of the point of a multi-Doctor story, right? We're not here for the plot, we're here for the incidental dialog.
I'll probably listen to it again later this week, but for,now I'm left with two main thoughts/reactions.
1., I think they wasted this crossover. The 10th Doctor is arguably the incarnation most deeply affected by the Time War, and the 4th Doctor arguably the most responsible for there being a Time War in the first place. Out of Time did a great job demonstrating how much the "new" Doctor differed from the "classic," and obviously the audience can easily infer why, but in-universe it would have been nice to allude to the 4th Doctor's sin and the monumental, universal trauma said sin led to. If the 4th Doctor is to criticize the 10th Doctors harsher attitude, the 10th Doctor needs to call out the 4th, too: he is what he is because of him.
2., I'm not sold on the premise of this set. With Out of Time 2 and Out of Time 3 now confirmed to feature David Tenant's Doctor alongside Peter Davison's and Colin Baker's, I worry that they may retroactively diminish the 10th Doctor's character arc by forcing him to be lectured by not one, not two, but three previous incarnations about "letting go." How pathetic would the 10th Doctor be to have his ego called out by three prior versions of himself immediately before The End of Time? I get that his self-centeredness is a big part of the 10th Doctor's character arc, but that would be way too much.
(Especially with the Time Lord Victorious Range looking to do something similar with the irresponsibly selfish TLV 10th Doctor, when in the show he snapped out of that mindset almost immediately.)
And also, wow. June 2021 for Out of Time 2? That's a helluva long time to wait in-between episodes. I'd almost've rather had them wait until the end of next year or 2022 even to release the whole set at once.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2020 12:47:24 GMT
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Post by pawntake on Aug 26, 2020 13:51:15 GMT
2., I'm not sold on the premise of this set. And also, wow. June 2021 for Out of Time 2? That's a helluva long time to wait in-between episodes. I'd almost've rather had them wait until the end of next year or 2022 even to release the whole set at once. I am sold on the premise of this set.But what i can't get over is the drip-feed of three one-hour stories over two years!!!!!!!!??
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Aug 26, 2020 13:56:46 GMT
The greatest compliment I can pay is that I wanted more. I would have loved for 10 to take 4 up on his invitation. Lots of little moments where I was listening in the dark with a big grin on my face. This one will get played back sometime soon. Thanks BF.
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Post by x2magneto on Aug 26, 2020 14:11:15 GMT
WINK is going to be very special because Colin Baker has mentioned wanting to square off with the Angels for hilarious reasons, hence the name 'wink.' I think this one will be incredible, especially if they let that old sarcastic Six come around.
Other than that, I could have used the releases this year and I could have used one with 9 just to wet the appetite, but I'll live.
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Post by ollychops on Aug 26, 2020 15:27:33 GMT
Well, that flew by, which is the mark of a good story! It's not one of my all-time favourites but it was fun to have the most iconic Doctors together. I felt like the Dalek plot was paint-by-the-numbers for the Daleks but that's fine, because it was more about the interactions between Tom and David.
A part of me is really impatient and wants 2 and 3 out ASAP but I'm glad that BF is keeping them back so we'll have more Ten content in the next couple of years! Also, it's odd that this release hasn't got a subtitle like 2 and 3... I wonder if this was meant to be a one-off but then decided to do more?
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Post by mark687 on Aug 26, 2020 15:40:15 GMT
At NO 2 with Daleks Trending at NO 3 now as well! Regards mark687
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Post by dasmaniac on Aug 26, 2020 16:37:29 GMT
This was fun. I really enjoyed it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2020 16:50:25 GMT
Spoiler-free thoughts:
A multi-Doctor audio adventure, featuring two of my favourite incarnations teaming up against the Daleks: it's a dream come true. I call it a nostalgic love letter to Whovians, old and new alike, with a magnificent script and amazing acting. 10 out of 10!
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