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Post by timegirl on Sept 16, 2020 20:35:52 GMT
What would happen if you switched the order of when certain actors played the Doctor? Which actors would you switch around and how would this impact their eras both in universe and out of universe? What would their story arch look like? How would this impact people’s perception of their era. You can use actors who have already played the Doctor and switch when they played the part or new actors.
Mine: Imagine it’s the 1980s, DW has cast a young Scotsman, Peter Capaldi to play the next Doctor. He’s a hip, sexy punky irreverent incarnation with a young school teacher companion Clara Oswald played by actress (and real life girlfriend of Capaldi) Elaine Collins. Older Doctor Who fans aren’t sure of this new Doctor, he’s too young, plays the electric guitar all the time and there’s a concern about hanky panky in the TARDIS. Teenagers and kids love the new Doctor though and many young female fans have embraced the new “ boyfriend” Doctor. Ratings have sky rocketed after last week’s episode which featured Capaldi and guest star David Bowie (who played that weeks villain) in a climactic sing off.
Imagine it’s 2005, BBC has just brought back Doctor Who into the 21st century with its first female Doctor, Jodie Whittaker. The Yorkshire actress is expected to start a new trend of female incarnations of the Doctor. Notable in this series is the lgbt representation when Ms. Whittaker kissed her companion Rose Tyler after she became Bad Wolf. Whittaker has renewed for series 2 and 3 and joining the Ninth Doctor and Rose is a new platonic best friend companion Don Noble played by up and coming actor, David Tennant.
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Post by timegirl on Sept 17, 2020 9:05:53 GMT
What actors who play the Doctor would you switch around?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2020 9:22:59 GMT
Very tricky with only the mainline actors...  I can offer an interesting bit of trivia, though. Both Colin Baker and Jon Pertwee were working during the mid-90s and appeared in, among other things, The Adventures of Young Indiana Jones in Daredevils of the Desert (alongside T.E. Lawrence) and Attack of the Hawkmen (featuring the Red Baron), respectively, so...   |
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Post by timegirl on Sept 17, 2020 10:01:19 GMT
Very tricky with only the mainline actors... I can offer an interesting bit of trivia, though. Both Colin Baker and Jon Pertwee were working during the mid-90s and appeared in, among other things, The Adventures of Young Indiana Jones in Daredevils of the Desert (alongside T.E. Lawrence) and Attack of the Hawkmen (featuring the Red Baron), respectively, so... Interesting 🤔😀 |
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Post by timegirl on Sept 17, 2020 18:10:34 GMT
I changed my mind, you can either switch when an actor who already played the part of the Doctor, like putting an actor who played a New Who Doctor in the classic era (or vice versa ) or you can switch them out with a new actor🙂
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2020 18:21:00 GMT
Funny thing is and I have thought of this before I think only Tom can do Genesis only Colin can do his era and only Patrick and Jon Can do theirs etc
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2020 18:21:33 GMT
But MATT could give them all a good try
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Post by timegirl on Sept 17, 2020 18:30:26 GMT
But MATT could give them all a good try As could Peter😉 |
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Post by timegirl on Sept 17, 2020 18:35:27 GMT
Funny thing is and I have thought of this before I think only Tom can do Genesis only Colin can do his era and only Patrick and Jon Can do theirs etc You can also by shifting around the timeline give your favorite Doctors an entirely new era or even persona, for example you could have Tom as new who Doctor🤔🙂 |
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Post by fitzoliverj on Sept 17, 2020 19:12:46 GMT
In 1992, "Doctor Who" was revived after a three-year hiatus, but no longer made by the BBC. Instead the show was now a co-production between two independent companies, Cinema Verity and The Jim Henson Company.
Taking on the role as producer once again was Verity Lambert, who envisaged reviving some of the elements of the show that had faded away since the 1960s. Key amongst them was the idea of casting an older actor in the lead role. Tom Baker was the actor selected to play an irascible, Hartnellesque Doctor, pitted against aliens devised by Henson's Creature Workshop.
Tom Baker himself had recently worked with the Muppets, in 1990's "Hyperland". This was a one-off television special about the future of computers and 'virtual reality', forming a sequel to the 1986 "Muppet Institute of Technology". Writer of both, and now script-editor of 'Doctor Who', was Douglas Adams.
Originally a BBC radio producer, back in the 1970s Adams had yearned to write television comedy, but his proposal "Tetley and Tetley" - featuring a chalk-and-cheese team of brothers (a waspish teetotaller to be played by Simon Jones, and Geoff McGivern's hard-drinking boozer) - hadn't been accepted. In desperation, he sent in some sample sketches he'd written for "Weekending" to "The Muppet Show". Commissions for both series suddenly appeared together, with Adams writing four episodes of "Tetley and Tetley" for ITV before handing the show over to colleague John Lloyd (later responsible for the Ken Dodd-featured panel show "Tattifilarious") in order to work on Muppet scripts. Adams went on to write the second Muppet movie, the John Cleese-starring and Gonzo-centric "The Great Muppet Space Caper", allegedly a rewrite of an abandoned movie proposal by Eric Idle intended for Bing Crosby and Bob Hope.
The new series of DW did not meet with a positive reaction from critics, who disliked Baker's rather grimm and forbidding take on the Doctor. However, the show garnered considerable viewing figures. But the BBC chose not to proceed with the Cinema Verity/Jim Henson series for a second round, instead licensing the American Fox channel to produce a US version. Showrunner Chris Carter chose to set the series entirely on Earth, with the Doctor - now played by British comedian Alan Davies - as a sort of eccentric detective investigating SF mysteries.
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Post by timegirl on Sept 17, 2020 19:18:33 GMT
In 1992, "Doctor Who" was revived after a three-year hiatus, but no longer made by the BBC. Instead the show was now a co-production between two independent companies, Cinema Verity and The Jim Henson Company. Taking on the role as producer once again was Verity Lambert, who envisaged reviving some of the elements of the show that had faded away since the 1960s. Key amongst them was the idea of casting an older actor in the lead role. Tom Baker was the actor selected to play an irascible, Hartnellesque Doctor, pitted against aliens devised by Henson's Creature Workshop. Tom Baker himself had recently worked with the Muppets, in 1990's "Hyperland". This was a one-off television special about the future of computers and 'virtual reality', forming a sequel to the 1986 "Muppet Institute of Technology". Writer of both, and now script-editor of 'Doctor Who', was Douglas Adams. Originally a BBC radio producer, back in the 1970s Adams had yearned to write television comedy, but his proposal "Tetley and Tetley" - featuring a chalk-and-cheese team of brothers (a waspish teetotaller to be played by Simon Jones, and Geoff McGivern's hard-drinking boozer) - hadn't been accepted. In desperation, he sent in some sample sketches he'd written for "Weekending" to "The Muppet Show". Commissions for both series suddenly appeared together, with Adams writing four episodes of "Tetley and Tetley" for ITV before handing the show over to colleague John Lloyd (later responsible for the Ken Dodd-featured panel show "Tattifilarious") in order to work on Muppet scripts. Adams went on to write the second Muppet movie, the John Cleese-starring and Gonzo-centric "The Great Muppet Space Caper", allegedly a rewrite of an abandoned movie proposal by Eric Idle intended for Bing Crosby and Bob Hope. The new series of DW did not meet with a positive reaction from critics, who disliked Baker's rather grimm and forbidding take on the Doctor. However, the show garnered considerable viewing figures. But the BBC chose not to proceed with the Cinema Verity/Jim Henson series for a second round, instead licensing the American Fox channel to produce a US version. Showrunner Chris Carter chose to set the series entirely on Earth, with the Doctor - now played by British comedian Alan Davies - as a sort of eccentric detective investigating SF mysteries. Very imaginative! What sort of Jim Henson creatures did Tom go up against? Is Alan Davies incarnation sort of like x-files? |
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Post by fitzoliverj on Sept 17, 2020 19:19:20 GMT
OK, footnotes.
Cinema Verity did try and take on the show in the 1990s, according to one rumour. Another rumour of the same period says that there was a proposal for a darker take on the show starring Tom Baker, and that he proposed Douglas Adams to work on it.
Adams was a BBC radio producer (and I think he did "Weekending"), and he did have the problem of two big comissions simultaneously. "The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy" was a radio series which needed input from John Lloyd; Adams other work was on Doctor Who. THHGTTG starred Simon Jones and Geoffrey McGivern, and their characters did drink tea and alcohol respectively. There are brands of tea and beer both called Tetley. John Lloyd's panel show with a comedian at the helm is QI.
John Cleese was in the second Muppet movie, "The Great Muppet Caper". A later movie about Gonzo being an alien was "Muppets from Space".
"The Muppet Institue of Technology" was a real plan between Adams and Jim Henson but never happened. "Hyperland" is also real, but is unconnected and has no Muppets. If I recall correctly, the Henson Creature Workshop did create some aliens for a 1990s tv show, but it was "Farscape" not "Doctor Who".
Bob Hope was keen to review "The Road" movies one last time, and had a plan for some Pythoneseque movie in the 70s, but nobody's sure whether it was to be scripted and starring the Pythons or just rip them off. It fell through when Bing Crosby died. Eric Idle wrote a novel loosely based on the Crosby/Hope movies called "The Road to Mars".
Fox did have a version of "Doctor Who" in the 1990s, but it didn't get made by Chris Carter or star Alan Davies, and wasn't a series. Carter instead made a dark detective series called "The X-Files" and Alan Davies starred in a British detective series as eccentric devisor-of-magic-tricks Jonathan Creek.
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Post by timegirl on Sept 20, 2020 14:41:23 GMT
I wonder what Sixie would be like as a new who Doctor? Or 9 as a classic Doctor?
I wonder if certain actors played the Doctor at different times would the persona of their Doctor change or would they stay the same? Like for example if Capaldi played the Doctor in the 1980s when he was in his 20s and 30s (instead of more recently in his 50s) I could see his Doctor being emphasized even more as a hip punky Doctor than they did when he played the part in his 50s, with them also playing him up as a heartthrob (well as much as you could in the no hanky panky era) rather a grumpy old man. However if Jodie has been a classic Doctor I feel like her persona other than a few minor tweaks would stay virtually unchanged. Neither of these approaches are better or worse than each other (changing personas, or staying the same) but it’s just fascinating to think about🤔
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I can offer an interesting bit of trivia, though. Both Colin Baker and Jon Pertwee were working during the mid-90s and appeared in, among other things, The Adventures of Young Indiana Jones in Daredevils of the Desert (alongside T.E. Lawrence) and Attack of the Hawkmen (featuring the Red Baron), respectively, so...
