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Post by timegirl on Oct 5, 2020 10:02:59 GMT
Here's a bit of an innocuous one: I think admission to the Academy on Gallifrey is a multi-phase process (typical of Time Lord bureaucracy) that requires, among other things, clout. An easy enough thing to attain for Gallifreyans from ennobled and distinctive Great Houses, but for those on the wane or from the slums of Low Town, it's a lot more difficult. The Doctor had a lot of figures in his life that affected his particular path while he was still on-planet. Borusa was a teacher with a deceptive fondness for the boy, the Hermit taught him about the philosophical nuances of life, Omega was something of a childhood icon, Badger acted as nursemaid... I like to believe that Azmael was the one who stood up for the errant traveller and said: "No, this one has a bright future as one of the pioneering elite of our World. He can do great things, I am willing to put my reputation on the line to prove it." I think the reason I come back to it was that Bill Hartnell, sadly fatherless all his life, also had a similar mentor called Hugh Blaker. Blaker helped shepherd him through some of the tougher parts of his upbringing. At one point, he acted as patron for Hartnell, paying for the boy's attendance at the Imperial Service College. An institution attended at certain points by one of the Romanovs and the forefather of electric cars. Hartnell, however, found the strictures of the school too harsh and often bunked to do other things. Sound familiar? I love this theory!😀
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lidar2
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You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Oct 5, 2020 10:07:50 GMT
Davros was exterminated at the end of Genesis in the original version of Dalek History - it was the 4rth Dr's intervention and re-telling of Dalek history onto Davros' tape recorder that led Davros to realise what fate held in store for him and take action to protect himself, thereby altering the timeline
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shutupbanks
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There’s a horror movie called Alien? That’s really offensive. No wonder everyone keeps invading you.
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Post by shutupbanks on Oct 5, 2020 11:14:57 GMT
The Doctor is a real person and often drops by the BBC with his adventures for them to dramatise. When they watch the show they will grumble at what the production team got wrong - “Didn’t they read the notes where I said Ogrons were like frogs?” - or laugh at what they take seriously - “I bloody knew they’d fall for the ‘moon is an egg.’ By Rassilon’s Twin Set, It’s like taking candy from a baby drashig.” (Drashigs are actually very timid herbivores and only the size of Shetland ponies: the real Carnival Of Monsters ended very differently...)
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Post by timegirl on Oct 5, 2020 11:26:24 GMT
One day in the far future the Doctor and Clara will be reunited, this will be during the phase the great Curator said the Doctor will revisit a few familiar faces and will have 12’s face a second time. Both the Doctor and Clara have emotionally matured a lot since they last saw each other and Me/Ashidir is completely out of the picture ( Me’s fine, she queen of some planet in an alternate universe somewhere). The Doctor and Clara then have a heart to heart and then they decide to spend the last hundred years traveling with each other as life partners before Clara must return to her death. They have a very happy time traveling with each other and tons of adventures. The Doctor has taken up the guitar again and to his surprise Clara has also picked up the guitar since he last saw her! Clara eventually has to return to her death which the Doctor does not her to do but they they kiss each other one last time and then she disappears away from him back to face her fate.
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Post by timegirl on Oct 5, 2020 11:31:47 GMT
The Doctor is a real person and often drops by the BBC with his adventures for them to dramatise. When they watch the show they will grumble at what the production team got wrong - “Didn’t they read the notes where I said Ogrons were like frogs?” - or laugh at what they take seriously - “I bloody knew they’d fall for the ‘moon is an egg.’ By Rassilon’s Twin Set, It’s like taking candy from a baby drashig.” (Drashigs are actually very timid herbivores and only the size of Shetland ponies: the real Carnival Of Monsters ended very differently...) I love this!😁 Out of curiosity does the real Doctor have the same faces our tv Doctor does? Do they sit in on casting to make sure that the next Doctor is close enough to whatever their current incarnation is like?
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shutupbanks
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There’s a horror movie called Alien? That’s really offensive. No wonder everyone keeps invading you.
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Post by shutupbanks on Oct 5, 2020 12:12:58 GMT
The Doctor is a real person and often drops by the BBC with his adventures for them to dramatise. When they watch the show they will grumble at what the production team got wrong - “Didn’t they read the notes where I said Ogrons were like frogs?” - or laugh at what they take seriously - “I bloody knew they’d fall for the ‘moon is an egg.’ By Rassilon’s Twin Set, It’s like taking candy from a baby drashig.” (Drashigs are actually very timid herbivores and only the size of Shetland ponies: the real Carnival Of Monsters ended very differently...) I love this!😁 Out of curiosity does the real Doctor have the same faces our tv Doctor does? Do they sit in on casting to make sure that the next Doctor is close enough to whatever their current incarnation is like? The actors have a passing similarity and portray the Doctor as a little nicer than the reality and some of the adventures took place in a different order and with different incarnations simply because the Doctor was recounting some adventures that they thought would be easier to produce using the technology or values of the time. Example: for Genesis Of The Daleks: he knew the audience wouldn’t believe that their hero would botch a mission like this so he turned the failure into a moral dilemma.
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Post by timegirl on Oct 5, 2020 12:31:10 GMT
I love this!😁 Out of curiosity does the real Doctor have the same faces our tv Doctor does? Do they sit in on casting to make sure that the next Doctor is close enough to whatever their current incarnation is like? The actors have a passing similarity and portray the Doctor as a little nicer than the reality and some of the adventures took place in a different order and with different incarnations simply because the Doctor was recounting some adventures that they thought would be easier to produce using the technology or values of the time. Example: for Genesis Of The Daleks: he knew the audience wouldn’t believe that their hero would botch a mission like this so he turned the failure into a moral dilemma. Which tv incarnations were closest in portrayal to the real Doctor?
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shutupbanks
Castellan
There’s a horror movie called Alien? That’s really offensive. No wonder everyone keeps invading you.
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Post by shutupbanks on Oct 5, 2020 18:09:28 GMT
The actors have a passing similarity and portray the Doctor as a little nicer than the reality and some of the adventures took place in a different order and with different incarnations simply because the Doctor was recounting some adventures that they thought would be easier to produce using the technology or values of the time. Example: for Genesis Of The Daleks: he knew the audience wouldn’t believe that their hero would botch a mission like this so he turned the failure into a moral dilemma. Which tv incarnations were closest in portrayal to the real Doctor? 2, 5 and 13 are furthest from his genuine personality, although 2 does have the conniving mind that someone who survived multiple Daleks plans would need. He isn’t as funny as he’s portrayed on tv and he keeps his anger and despair further from the surface than viewers would realise: 7, 9 and 11 are probably closest but 11 has been written with a lot more comedy to offset his alienness. He does dress in a similar style to his various incarnations although they have a better tailor than he does, as well as more uniformity of costume: like us, the real Doctor changes outfits quite a lot according to his mood. They travel alone a lot more frequently than we realise, and his companions are more often aliens than humans (Dodo was an alien in the “real“ adventures, as was Zoe).
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Post by timegirl on Oct 5, 2020 18:17:19 GMT
Which tv incarnations were closest in portrayal to the real Doctor? 2, 5 and 13 are furthest from his genuine personality, although 2 does have the conniving mind that someone who survived multiple Daleks plans would need. He isn’t as funny as he’s portrayed on tv and he keeps his anger and despair further from the surface than viewers would realise: 7, 9 and 11 are probably closest but 11 has been written with a lot more comedy to offset his alienness. He does dress in a similar style to his various incarnations although they have a better tailor than he does, as well as more uniformity of costume: like us, the real Doctor changes outfits quite a lot according to his mood. They travel alone a lot more frequently than we realise, and his companions are more often aliens than humans (Dodo was an alien in the “real“ adventures, as was Zoe). Interesting!😀Does the real Doctor ever coach the actor playing them? I think the real Doctor picked Peter Capaldi and David Tennant as children and secretly guided them to their destinies of playing the Doctor.
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shutupbanks
Castellan
There’s a horror movie called Alien? That’s really offensive. No wonder everyone keeps invading you.
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Post by shutupbanks on Oct 6, 2020 0:55:19 GMT
2, 5 and 13 are furthest from his genuine personality, although 2 does have the conniving mind that someone who survived multiple Daleks plans would need. He isn’t as funny as he’s portrayed on tv and he keeps his anger and despair further from the surface than viewers would realise: 7, 9 and 11 are probably closest but 11 has been written with a lot more comedy to offset his alienness. He does dress in a similar style to his various incarnations although they have a better tailor than he does, as well as more uniformity of costume: like us, the real Doctor changes outfits quite a lot according to his mood. They travel alone a lot more frequently than we realise, and his companions are more often aliens than humans (Dodo was an alien in the “real“ adventures, as was Zoe). Interesting!😀Does the real Doctor ever coach the actor playing them? I think the real Doctor picked Peter Capaldi and David Tennant as children and secretly guided them to their destinies of playing the Doctor. Not sure: this whole idea came to me one day while I was thinking about something else and was probably inspired by yet another watch of Galaxy Quest. I thought “what if the entire show is a retelling of the Doctor’s adventures where he’s retelling them to the show’s production team.” Some of them, I figured, would be fairly faithful retells while others would be adventures that went wrong in some way but the Doctor tells them in such a way that he saves the day in such an improbable way that you can’t even but wonder if that was what really happened. I figured he would be a walking mess of PTSD which the producers would hide by making him funny or eccentric - Ian and Barbara’s adventures were really a lot more frightening and traumatic because they triggered his fight/flight reflex - and that his companions may well have been entirely aliens or a mix of humans and aliens (they’ve got the whole universe to explore yet they wind up travelling pretty much exclusively with humans within a very narrow field of history) which has been “Earth-washed“ by the producers to make it more viewer-friendly. something that occurred to me while jotting these ideas down here is that he’s done this with every major civilisation that he has significant interactions with. There’s a Draconian version of Doctor Who, the Ice Warrior version has a really toxic fan base, the Daleks were secretly bankrolling the Mary Whitehouses of a hundred worlds, the Androgum version is more of a travelling cookery show...
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Post by timegirl on Oct 6, 2020 1:01:41 GMT
Interesting!😀Does the real Doctor ever coach the actor playing them? I think the real Doctor picked Peter Capaldi and David Tennant as children and secretly guided them to their destinies of playing the Doctor. Not sure: this whole idea came to me one day while I was thinking about something else and was probably inspired by yet another watch of Galaxy Quest. I thought “what if the entire show is a retelling of the Doctor’s adventures where he’s retelling them to the show’s production team.” Some of them, I figured, would be fairly faithful retells while others would be adventures that went wrong in some way but the Doctor tells them in such a way that he saves the day in such an improbable way that you can’t even but wonder if that was what really happened. I figured he would be a walking mess of PTSD which the producers would hide by making him funny or eccentric - Ian and Barbara’s adventures were really a lot more frightening and traumatic because they triggered his fight/flight reflex - and that his companions may well have been entirely aliens or a mix of humans and aliens (they’ve got the whole universe to explore yet they wind up travelling pretty much exclusively with humans within a very narrow field of history) which has been “Earth-washed“ by the producers to make it more viewer-friendly. something that occurred to me while jotting these ideas down here is that he’s done this with every major civilisation that he has significant interactions with. There’s a Draconian version of Doctor Who, the Ice Warrior version has a really toxic fan base, the Daleks were secretly bankrolling the Mary Whitehouses of a hundred worlds, the Androgum version is more of a travelling cookery show... I love this theory so much! It’s amazing!😀
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Oct 6, 2020 8:32:51 GMT
I was fascinated by the Morbius Doctors. The introduction of the ‘not a Doctor’ War Doctor was a godsend, it meant I could think “Ohh he’s the first DOCTOR because he was the first to take that name, they were all called other things”
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Post by timegirl on Oct 6, 2020 11:48:58 GMT
12 had a very long on again off again rock pop career that went through many highs and lows. Some aspects he is rather embarrassed of in hindsight. 12 once had a hit song called “ I am not your boyfriend”, surprisingly (or not so surprisingly) it was in its way a love song. Yes, there was a music video, and yes he did have back up dancers. Yes he did have a Christmas album it was very different and had a song about the science behind the Northern Lights and a ballad about The Krampus. Yes villains did try to use his rock career against him. Yes, 12 did have a band with a long and complicated history.
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