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Post by grinch on Oct 29, 2020 0:56:07 GMT
As Halloween quickly approaches, I thought I’d start a thread for all those wishing to discuss their penchant for horror. So, what’s your favourite horror movie villain and why? Fanatical about Freddy? Gaga for Ghostface? Mad about Michael? Then here’s the place for you!
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Post by Timelord007 on Oct 29, 2020 8:19:47 GMT
Jason Voorhees been a Friday fan all my life & Michael Myers huge Halloween fan.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2020 11:53:13 GMT
Does the Blair Witch count? We've never really seen her other than a few shadowy shapes in the 2016 film, but she's all the menace and malignancy o the best of them. I'd love to think there'll be more filmic excursions into the myth.
If not, then I'll go with Leatherface. A creature that simply kills and eats and wears the skin of his victims must rate pretty highly on the villainy stakes - he's even survived the occasional dodgy sequel with dignity intact.
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Oct 29, 2020 12:34:45 GMT
Dr Frankenstein as played by Peter Cushing in the Hammer horror films.
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Post by ljwilson on Nov 16, 2020 15:28:28 GMT
The shape shifting and infesting entity from John Carpenter's 'The Thing'. Yes, I know he/it/she is a bit hard to call a classic villain, but I dont care.
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Post by polly on Nov 16, 2020 20:51:45 GMT
The shape shifting and infesting entity from John Carpenter's 'The Thing'. Yes, I know he/it/she is a bit hard to call a classic villain, but I dont care. Villain is fair, I think. The Thing(s) act with intelligence and active malice toward the humans. It's not just a predatory animal. |
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Post by grinch on Nov 16, 2020 21:06:52 GMT
The shape shifting and infesting entity from John Carpenter's 'The Thing'. Yes, I know he/it/she is a bit hard to call a classic villain, but I dont care. Villain is fair, I think. The Thing(s) act with intelligence and active malice toward the humans. It's not just a predatory animal. Most definitely. The Thing definitely has an underlying intelligence to it compared to something such as the Xenomorphs. Although, I imagine there have been many debates about that in nerddom since time immemorial. Since 1979 to be precise. |
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Post by polly on Nov 17, 2020 21:17:00 GMT
Most definitely. The Thing definitely has an underlying intelligence to it compared to something such as the Xenomorphs. Although, I imagine there have been many debates about that in nerddom since time immemorial. Since 1979 to be precise. Xenos can be a bit tricky. Over so many films passed through so many hands, it varies quite a bit. The lone xenomorphs in the first and third films (and the Alien: Isolation video game, if you want to count that) seem to be much craftier than their hive-dwelling brethren. Even then I'm honestly not sure how much is intelligence and how much is predatory cunning. |
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Post by grinch on Nov 17, 2020 21:26:29 GMT
Most definitely. The Thing definitely has an underlying intelligence to it compared to something such as the Xenomorphs. Although, I imagine there have been many debates about that in nerddom since time immemorial. Since 1979 to be precise. Xenos can be a bit tricky. Over so many films passed through so many hands, it varies quite a bit. The lone xenomorphs in the first and third films (and the Alien: Isolation video game, if you want to count that) seem to be much craftier than their hive-dwelling brethren. Even then I'm honestly not sure how much is intelligence and how much is predatory cunning. Admittedly I haven’t read the Expanded Universe, but I theorise that when in the proximity of the Queen they adopt a more hive mind mentality and become soldiers first and foremost. Rather like worker bees. When alone or without the presence of the Queen, one could argue they’re more independent and as such are able to exhibit more cunning and intelligence. While still being ferocious predators. I’m making stuff up I’ll admit but it’s interesting to think about |
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Post by polly on Nov 17, 2020 21:34:43 GMT
Admittedly I haven’t read the Expanded Universe, but I theorise that when in the proximity of the Queen they adopt a more hive mind mentality and become soldiers first and foremost. Rather like worker bees. When alone or without the presence of the Queen, one could argue they’re more independent and as such are able to exhibit more cunning and intelligence. While still being ferocious predators. I’m making stuff up I’ll admit but it’s interesting to think about I haven't delved into any novels or comics, either, but that theory sounds good enough to me. |
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Nov 17, 2020 22:57:54 GMT
The shape shifting and infesting entity from John Carpenter's 'The Thing'. Yes, I know he/it/she is a bit hard to call a classic villain, but I dont care. Villain is fair, I think. The Thing(s) act with intelligence and active malice toward the humans. It's not just a predatory animal. To me it just feels like a lifeform trying to survive. That seems to be it's only instinct. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2020 3:50:15 GMT
Xenos can be a bit tricky. Over so many films passed through so many hands, it varies quite a bit. The lone xenomorphs in the first and third films (and the Alien: Isolation video game, if you want to count that) seem to be much craftier than their hive-dwelling brethren. Even then I'm honestly not sure how much is intelligence and how much is predatory cunning. Admittedly I haven’t read the Expanded Universe, but I theorise that when in the proximity of the Queen they adopt a more hive mind mentality and become soldiers first and foremost. Rather like worker bees. When alone or without the presence of the Queen, one could argue they’re more independent and as such are able to exhibit more cunning and intelligence. While still being ferocious predators. I’m making stuff up I’ll admit but it’s interesting to think about I'd say that scans pretty well with the hypotheses in the Dark Horse comics about how they operate, too. In addition to that, I don't think there's a consensus on just how much the xenomorphs take from their hosts in terms of learned behaviour. I have to wonder how much of the Hadley's Hope colonists and their instinctive drives ended up shaping the structure of the xenomorph hive in Aliens. The cooperative nature of the colony's people in their hundreds(?) vs. the nascient hostility of the Nostromo crew in their handful. |
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Post by polly on Nov 18, 2020 4:53:56 GMT
To me it just feels like a lifeform trying to survive. That seems to be it's only instinct. Survival instinct for sure, but it started to construct a new spaceship, and I don't see a non-sentient being doing that. |
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