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Post by timegirl on Nov 7, 2020 21:26:17 GMT
What are your favorite underrated and under appreciated episodes, stories, and moments from DW that you think deserve more appreciation and why?
Mine:
The Web Planet, it has adorable bug and insect people!
Love and Monsters has genuinely good and affectionate satire of DW fan culture!
Fear Her, I don’t understand the hate for this one! It’s got a unique threat of drawings come to life because of a troubled child.
Side note: I think this needs a redemptive bf sequel where the Doctor meets an adult Chloe Webber who has become a professional artist and her art work starts terrorizing people!
Night Terrors: The creepy dolls and the twist with the child is amazing!
God Complex: Love everything about this episode!
Series 7b: It’s not perfect but it’s not as bad as it’s reputation! Also it gave us Clara Oswald!
The entire Capaldi era: This is such an underrated era and my favorite! It’s got the best arch of any Doctor and some amazing episodes and moments!
Deep Breath: My favorite post regeneration episode! Some amazing funny, heartwarming, and heartbreaking moments. This episode gets me genuinely teary eyed!
Robots of Sherwood: It’s basically DW meets Blackadder which is amazing! Also the ending is genuinely touching.
Last Christmas: My favorite DW Christmas special! It’s weird, scary, heartwarming, heartbreaking, and extremely romantic! Plus I know the ending they went with get criticism, but I truly believe the ending they went with is genuinely the best most moving magical and romantic ending of any DW episode ever! I know that’s a big claim to make but 12 and Clara’s moments together in this ending never fails make my heart go a flutter and my eyes to tear up. It’s absolutely beautiful and deserves more appreciation!
What are your favorite underrated and under appreciated episodes, moments and stories and why they deserve more appreciation?
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Post by grinch on Nov 7, 2020 21:38:27 GMT
I would say the Enemy of the World is underrated but considering it is now lauded as a new classic since it was all found I don’t think that counts. I certainly think not enough people talk about it’s fantastic ending though. The normally jovial Second Doctor coldly confronting Salamander, with their skirmish causing him to be flung in the Time Vortex is a great moment and a brilliant cliffhanger. “We're going to put you outside, Salamander. No friends, no safety, nothing. You'll run, but they'll catch up with you.” m.youtube.com/watch?v=xJLAZkAgPkcTo be honest, I’m very surprised Big Finish have never revisited Salamander. |
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Post by constonks on Nov 7, 2020 22:50:55 GMT
To be honest, I’m very surprised Big Finish have never revisited Salamander. I mean Big Finish hasn't but Titan Comics did revisit him (with a cliffhanger at the end of the story, no less). |
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Post by grinch on Nov 7, 2020 23:04:29 GMT
To be honest, I’m very surprised Big Finish have never revisited Salamander. I mean Big Finish hasn't but Titan Comics did revisit him (with a cliffhanger at the end of the story, no less). That was a decent story. Remember liking it a lot back when I first read it. I would like to see Big Finish take a crack him though. Then again, for all I know he could be the next main antagonist for one of their boxsets or be making an appearance in a future Time War series assisting the Daleks. |
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Post by mark687 on Nov 8, 2020 0:03:11 GMT
I would say the Enemy of the World is underrated but considering it is now lauded as a new classic since it was all found I don’t think that counts. I certainly think not enough people talk about it’s fantastic ending though. The normally jovial Second Doctor coldly confronting Salamander, with their skirmish causing him to be flung in the Time Vortex is a great moment and a brilliant cliffhanger. “We're going to put you outside, Salamander. No friends, no safety, nothing. You'll run, but they'll catch up with you.” m.youtube.com/watch?v=xJLAZkAgPkcTo be honest, I’m very surprised Big Finish have never revisited Salamander. I'm sure I have in What Who are you Watching Thread But yes I too love that "Your come in my home threaten my kids all bets are off" moment. Regards mark687 |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2020 6:22:08 GMT
I would say the Enemy of the World is underrated but considering it is now lauded as a new classic since it was all found I don’t think that counts. I certainly think not enough people talk about it’s fantastic ending though. The normally jovial Second Doctor coldly confronting Salamander, with their skirmish causing him to be flung in the Time Vortex is a great moment and a brilliant cliffhanger. “We're going to put you outside, Salamander. No friends, no safety, nothing. You'll run, but they'll catch up with you.” m.youtube.com/watch?v=xJLAZkAgPkcTo be honest, I’m very surprised Big Finish have never revisited Salamander. I'm sure I have in What Who are you Watching Thread But yes I too love that "Your come in my home threaten my kids all bets are off" moment. Regards mark687 I love that description of it. It's amazing how much having a visual component to Enemy helped change people's opinions of it. It's as much about what the characters don't say to one another, as what they do. Pat Troughton gets to really show his range as the Doctor, Salamander and the Doctor as Salamander. Barry Letts makes one hell of an impression with little touches of modelwork, clever camera placement and back projection that make it look cinematic. And David Whitaker gets to, once again, tap into that human factor he was so good at. "Which is good? Which is evil?" as the Doctor asks.
This is going to sound odd, but... The Daleks. It's a not a story that tends to get much press when people are talking about the big classics. I think, mainly, because it's taken part and parcel as an element of that early series. Without The Daleks, there would not have been Doctor Who, which is ironic considering that it was David Whitaker who championed the script to Sidney Newman. Newman saw the dreaded bug-eyed monsters he'd hoped that the programme would avoid and thought it would come unravelled, but Whitaker pointed out that it was far more than first appeared. It was about people and what they did not just to survive, but live. Who would rise to the challenge and who would falter. War, pacifism, fascism, responsibility, identity, bravery and cowardice. It was about furnace-blasted homelands, assassinated heroes and the courage of the perfectly ordinary. Not just to overcome an enemy from without, but understand themselves as well. Christopher Barry's direction is wonderfully iconic. Tristram Cary's soundtrack a marvel to the ears. Terry Nation and Whitaker's writing still relevant even in the twenty-first century. Everything that the series is can still be found in those seven episodes. |
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Post by mark687 on Nov 8, 2020 12:18:07 GMT
Couple more
Ted and Gran Tyler from The Image of the Fendahl just a genuine old wise cracking wise-woman and a guy just trying to go with it.
Night Terrors
The Doctor and the Dad scenes Dads scared, no idea what's going on but won't/can't give up on the Boy, therefore the Doc just stays and tries to figure things out while chatting about Parenting (its also oddly one of only of couple of convincingly Doctor performances from MS for me.)
Regards
mark687
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Post by slithe on Nov 8, 2020 12:35:08 GMT
The Idiot's Lantern - so much in that episode which gets missed/overlooked. A very clever social commentary on Britain and the idea that big events bring us together (except for the people who get deliberately left out).
Also love the reference to Logopolis when the Tenth Doctor is climbing the gantry to the roof.
Death to the Daleks - superb opening scene and good first episode in the dark (really feel the Holmes influence there as he re-wrote the scripts as part of the 'hand-over'). It's also Terminator before the franchise - creating something that destroys its creators (pity about the floor cliff hanger). The Exxilon costumes are also fantastic as well - the 'choir' and choral parts for the sacrifice are well done. You really do get a feel of an alien civilisation - something that is often neglected at times with Doctor Who.
Day of the Daleks - really great premise and idea. Love the internationalist aspect too. Also shows that humans can be just as bad as the Daleks - the Third Doctor and the Controller have some amazing scenes. Plus, the Controller's come back to the Daleks is amazing - 'Who knows, perhaps I've helped to exterminate you?'
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