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Post by Digi on Dec 8, 2020 16:05:59 GMT
Apologies if this reads as a Rant But of course BF are going to use teams up with Tennant with other popular aspects of the show, They Sell and make BF Money The fact they're Written and Produced by people that are excellent at what they do is a Bonus And the usual caveat No ones forcing you the individual to buy it Regards mark687 Indeed. My goodness.
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lidar2
Castellan
You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Dec 8, 2020 16:11:20 GMT
Apologies if this reads as a Rant But of course BF are going to use teams up with Tennant with other popular aspects of the show, They Sell and make BF Money The fact they're Written and Produced by people that are excellent at what they do is a Bonus And the usual caveat No ones forcing you the individual to buy it Regards mark687 I don't disagree that BF should go for aspects of the show that sell well and make money, but surely there would be a different set of 3 companions who are not as overused but would sell equally well?
The fact they're written and produced by people that are excellent at what they do * is the saving grace that keeps it professional and stops it degenerating into fanfic
* EDIT - that includes the actors who play the overused companions - I make no criticism of their talents as actors, just that their characters are disproportionately overused
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Post by Tim Bradley on Dec 8, 2020 16:15:37 GMT
Already excited about this! Why does it have to be September 2022 though?! Why can't it be September 2021?! Going to pre-order now! Tim.
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Post by project37 on Dec 8, 2020 16:17:39 GMT
The story with Nyssa made me think of the 1980 film The Stunt Man: www.imdb.com/title/tt0081568/This one isn't calling out to me personally, but I hope it's fun for the creators and listeners alike.
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Post by The Brigadier on Dec 8, 2020 16:18:30 GMT
Already excited about this! Why does it have to be September 2022 though?! Why can't it be September 2021?! Going to pre-order now! Tim. Hmmm....I wonder what five letter word caught your attention in the announcement? 🤔😉 Couldn't agree more though...September 2022 seems an awful long way away..
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Post by Tim Bradley on Dec 8, 2020 16:20:06 GMT
Already excited about this! Why does it have to be September 2022 though?! Why can't it be September 2021?! Going to pre-order now! Tim. Hmmm....I wonder what five letter word caught your attention in the announcement? 🤔😉 Couldn't agree more though...September 2022 seems an awful long way away.. It could either be a five-letter word beginning with S or a five-letter word beginning with N.
I'm still looking forward to 'The War Master' 6 box set before 'Tenth Doctor, Classic Companions' comes along. Tim.
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Post by aztec on Dec 8, 2020 16:27:01 GMT
I think there is also a factor of who can record from home during these times when it comes to companions they can record with Yeah, I suppose the single episode guest character match ups like this set and the Out Of Time stories are easier to schedule than the regular 10DA's (I assume Tennant sees recording the 10DA's as partly a chance to catch up with old friends/work colleagues, the stuff recorded during lockdown mostly involves actors he hasn't worked with before and is recorded over zoom anyway, so may be stitched together from seperate recording sessions), I kinda think if another set with Catherine Tate or Billie Piper had been recorded we would have had hints or a news announcement by now, maybe doing all these stories in the 'specials year' was a back up plan because scheduling the regular actors fell through (though I'm assuming Billie Piper is going to eb in at least some of the 9DA's) I was assuming Dalek Universe was the last 10th Doctor thing they have recorded during lockdown so this comes as a pleasant surprise (well...honestly it's not particularly surprising, New/Classic Who crossovers are always a good bit of fun and market themselves really, Tennant being the fan he is was probably rather enthused about the idea! it was going to happen sooner or later i.m.o, and K9/Leela/Nyssa/Ace are some of the more obvious characters to match with the 10th Doctor). I think it was recently confirmed Tennant also recorded some new Luther Arkwright stories for BF, so they've certainly kept him busy this year! I wonder if this set will reference the War Doctor/Leela stories (and her companion chronicles arc) or the Nyssa short trip A Heart On Both Sides would be nice to see the 10th Doctor ranges tie more closely into the BF classic ranges. I'm going to assume a Captain Jack/10th doctor set is also on the list of boxsets to record at some point. And I'm also now wondering why we haven't got a Ace and the 8th Doctor story yet, that would be a particularly interesting pair up...
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Dec 8, 2020 16:27:48 GMT
Interesting, I'm the first to moan about how small BF can make the Doctor Who universe with characters constantly meeting each other & also I found 10 outstayed his welcome for me on tv, but this sounds fun. I think Tennant is really enjoying himself as Doctor Who on audio. The one I'm looking forward to the most is hearing Ace with 10. I would love to hear 10 with Tegan if they do any more, but I'd just love to see any Doctor meet Tegan!
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Post by shallacatop on Dec 8, 2020 16:32:56 GMT
Apologies if this reads as a Rant But of course BF are going to use teams up with Tennant with other popular aspects of the show, They Sell and make BF Money The fact they're Written and Produced by people that are excellent at what they do is a Bonus And the usual caveat No ones forcing you the individual to buy it Regards mark687 I don't think it reads as a rant, and I mean no disrespect, but the reasons you've provided are the typical cop out answers when someone is pleased with the announcement and wants to reply to criticism... without actually offering an opinion. Big Finish are naturally going to use team ups, it's bread and butter to them. They're fans making stories for other fans. That's the top and bottom of it. I think you're kidding yourself if you think that Big Finish have to pair David Tennant with any other form of returning element. He sells regardless of what he's doing. The views of a writer or their script is obviously going to differ down to the individual consuming it, but just because they may enjoy the story doesn't affect their view that they'd have preferred something else. Ultimately, it doesn't matter who writes or produces if you're concern is that you'd prefer three other companions with Ten or a completely different product. Of course, nobody is forcing the individual to buy it, but that doesn't mean they can't voice their opinions. I don't believe anybody's outright stated they don't want to buy the set, some have merely voiced their concern over it involving the three most used companions in the whole of Big Finish. If you have fatigue, then you have fatigue. Ultimately, these are stories that are very much a product of the situation we're in. David Tennant has become available and an influx of material has been scripted and recorded with him. I tend to think the default to this quick turnarounds or these influx of releases is to attach a gimmick to them just because getting additional time with David is a luxury and Big Finish are looking out for the family they've amassed over 20+ years. Having said that, I don't think it's wrong to prefer something else or a different cast. You just have to look at the 19 Tenth Doctor titles we've had announced this year; not one of them is "just" him on his own or "just" a set of regular adventures. They've all got some extra bit of marketing attached to them. The closest to the aforementioned regular adventures is probably the River Song set. Personally, Ten is my Doctor so more David Tennant is always welcome, but if it wasn't for Dalek Universe explicitly doing a new series of Tenth Doctor Adventures, albeit one wrapped up in plenty of returning elements, I think I'd be a bit more critical. Again, no disrespect to you personally, Mark. I understand where you're coming from, but I think posts like that are flawed and a bit holier than thou, even if they're not intended to be.
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Post by cwm on Dec 8, 2020 16:38:31 GMT
I think there is also a factor of who can record from home during these times when it comes to companions they can record with Yeah, I suppose the single episode guest character match ups like this set and the Out Of Time stories are easier to schedule than the regular 10DA's (I assume Tennant sees recording the 10DA's as partly a chance to catch up with old friends/work colleagues, the stuff recorded during lockdown mostly involves actors he hasn't worked with before and is recorded over zoom anyway, so may be stitched together from seperate recording sessions), I kinda think if another set with Catherine Tate or Billie Piper had been recorded we would have had hints or a news announcement by now, maybe doing all these stories in the 'specials year' was a back up plan because scheduling the regular actors fell through (though I'm assuming Billie Piper is going to eb in at least some of the 9DA's) I was assuming Dalek Universe was the last 10th Doctor thing they have recorded during lockdown so this comes as a pleasant surprise (well...honestly it's not particularly surprising, New/Classic Who crossovers are always a good bit of fun and market themselves really, Tennant being the fan he is was probably rather enthused about the idea! it was going to happen sooner or later i.m.o, and K9/Leela/Nyssa/Ace are some of the more obvious characters to match with the 10th Doctor). I think it was recently confirmed Tennant also recorded some new Luther Arkwright stories for BF, so they've certainly kept him busy this year! I wonder if this set will reference the War Doctor/Leela stories (and her companion chronicles arc) or the Nyssa short trip A Heart On Both Sides would be nice to see the 10th Doctor ranges tie more closely into the BF classic ranges. I'm going to assume a Captain Jack/10th doctor set is also on the list of boxsets to record at some point. And I'm also now wondering why we haven't got a Ace and the 8th Doctor story yet, that would be a particularly interesting pair up... I don't think Catherine or Billie were able to record remotely ( I Hate Suzie wrapped literally on the brink of lockdown and had post-production done entirely remotely which is likely why we've not had anything from Billie this year, although I'd still be very surprised if she wasn't in any of the 9DAs).
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Dec 8, 2020 16:39:27 GMT
The story with Nyssa made me think of the 1980 film The Stunt Man: www.imdb.com/title/tt0081568/This one isn't calling out to me personally, but I hope it's fun for the creators and listeners alike. Fantastic film
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Post by agentten on Dec 8, 2020 16:39:46 GMT
Wow! This sounds like so much fun!It's blowing my mind how much Tennant has been recording this year. I'm sure the lockdown has a lot to do with it, but at least now we can say something good came out of 2020. Can't wait to hear this, particularly the K9 story. Ten always seemed immensely fond of K9 in the episodes they appeared together in.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Dec 8, 2020 16:40:03 GMT
Already excited about this! Why does it have to be September 2022 though?! Why can't it be September 2021?! Going to pre-order now! Tim. Hmmm....I wonder what five letter word caught your attention in the announcement? 🤔😉 Couldn't agree more though...September 2022 seems an awful long way away.. Since Tennant came onboard Big Finish several years ago they have released thirteen hours worth of 10th Doctor adventures. In 2021 Big Finish has eleven hours worth of 10th Doctor already on the schedule. One would think that they would not want to release everything they recorded with Tennant in 2021. So yeah, patience is in order but also take a step back and marvel had how the only silver lining of the Covid-19 year gave us so much more 10th Doctor than we would have had without the pandemic. It just makes me wonder how much more they have recorded with Tennant that we know nothing about yet.
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Post by karldwilliams on Dec 8, 2020 16:42:46 GMT
Looks like it'll wrap up the Nyssa, Leela and Ace Time War threads left open in Gallifrey: Time War, Class etc?
Always good to hear there's going to be more Tennant but I wish they had Ten meet Jo Grant/Jones! All the Doctors should meet Jo, she has that history of being the first TV companion to meet past Doctors with 1 & 2, then later met 11 onscreen and has met 7 at BF. Might as well complete the set and have her meet 4, 5, 6 & 8 at least, either period Miss Grant or later Mrs Jones. All the Doctors need a bit of Jo goodness!
But I'll be having this! Great lineup of writers!
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You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Dec 8, 2020 16:50:18 GMT
Hmmm....I wonder what five letter word caught your attention in the announcement? 🤔😉 Couldn't agree more though...September 2022 seems an awful long way away.. Since Tennant came onboard Big Finish several years ago they have released thirteen hours worth of 10th Doctor adventures. In 2021 Big Finish has eleven hours worth of 10th Doctor already on the schedule. One would think that they would not want to release everything they recorded with Tennant in 2021. So yeah, patience is in order but also take a step back and marvel had how the only silver lining of the Covid-19 year gave us so much more 10th Doctor than we would have had without the pandemic. It just makes me wonder how much more they have recorded with Tennant that we know nothing about yet. I'm really hoping he has reprised Galanar for a Dalek Empire V boxset
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Castellan
You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Dec 8, 2020 16:51:13 GMT
Looks like it'll wrap up the Nyssa, Leela and Ace Time War threads left open in Gallifrey: Time War, Class etc? Always good to hear there's going to be more Tennant but I wish they had Ten meet Jo Grant/Jones! All the Doctors should meet Jo, she has that history of being the first TV companion to meet past Doctors with 1 & 2, then later met 11 onscreen and has met 7 at BF. Might as well complete the set and have her meet 4, 5, 6 & 8 at least, either period Miss Grant or later Mrs Jones. All the Doctors need a bit of Jo goodness! But I'll be having this! Great lineup of writers! Jo met 8 in a CC
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Post by karldwilliams on Dec 8, 2020 17:09:17 GMT
Looks like it'll wrap up the Nyssa, Leela and Ace Time War threads left open in Gallifrey: Time War, Class etc? Always good to hear there's going to be more Tennant but I wish they had Ten meet Jo Grant/Jones! All the Doctors should meet Jo, she has that history of being the first TV companion to meet past Doctors with 1 & 2, then later met 11 onscreen and has met 7 at BF. Might as well complete the set and have her meet 4, 5, 6 & 8 at least, either period Miss Grant or later Mrs Jones. All the Doctors need a bit of Jo goodness! But I'll be having this! Great lineup of writers! Jo met 8 in a CC Oh yes, Elixir of Doom, characterwise, but it's not the same as Katy & Paul appearing alongside each other for some proper interaction. That'd be splendid!
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Post by sherlock on Dec 8, 2020 17:12:52 GMT
I don't think it reads as a rant, and I mean no disrespect, but the reasons you've provided are the typical cop out answers when someone is pleased with the announcement and wants to reply to criticism... without actually offering an opinion. Big Finish are naturally going to use team ups, it's bread and butter to them. They're fans making stories for other fans. That's the top and bottom of it. I think you're kidding yourself if you think that Big Finish have to pair David Tennant with any other form of returning element. He sells regardless of what he's doing. The views of a writer or their script is obviously going to differ down to the individual consuming it, but just because they may enjoy the story doesn't affect their view that they'd have preferred something else. Ultimately, it doesn't matter who writes or produces if you're concern is that you'd prefer three other companions with Ten or a completely different product. Of course, nobody is forcing the individual to buy it, but that doesn't mean they can't voice their opinions. I don't believe anybody's outright stated they don't want to buy the set, some have merely voiced their concern over it involving the three most used companions in the whole of Big Finish. If you have fatigue, then you have fatigue. Ultimately, these are stories that are very much a product of the situation we're in. David Tennant has become available and an influx of material has been scripted and recorded with him. I tend to think the default to this quick turnarounds or these influx of releases is to attach a gimmick to them just because getting additional time with David is a luxury and Big Finish are looking out for the family they've amassed over 20+ years. Having said that, I don't think it's wrong to prefer something else or a different cast. You just have to look at the 19 Tenth Doctor titles we've had announced this year; not one of them is " just" him on his own or " just" a set of regular adventures. They've all got some extra bit of marketing attached to them. The closest to the aforementioned regular adventures is probably the River Song set. Personally, Ten is my Doctor so more David Tennant is always welcome, but if it wasn't for Dalek Universe explicitly doing a new series of Tenth Doctor Adventures, albeit one wrapped up in plenty of returning elements, I think I'd be a bit more critical. Again, no disrespect to you personally, Mark. I understand where you're coming from, but I think posts like that are flawed and a bit holier than thou, even if they're not intended to be. (I know I said I was tapping out but..) THIS ^^^ I was drawn to Who during the Tennant era. He was my first Doctor. By all rights, this should be a slam dunk buy. But as I said initially, I’m only wavering. I may still get this (got nearly two years to decide after all), and am well-aware that no-one is forcing me to. The stories that made me like that era, that made me like Who in the first place, were the latter half of Series 2. Stories like Girl in Fireplace, Idiot’s Lantern, Impossible Planet, etc. New, exciting. When I started with School Reunion the significance of Sarah Jane meant nothing to me and I had no idea what the Cybermen were before they reappeared. And that carried on, Series 3 and 4 continued innovation and pushing Tennant’s Doctor to new places. So that’s what the Tennant era is to me, it was new and fresh and not beholden to decades of continuity, with a lead who could go new places. It’s why I’m liking TLV so much. The Knight, The Fool and The Dead genuinely feels like a continuation of that era. It’s in a new time zone, most of the aliens are new, Ten’s character is challenged and the themes link to the original Tennant era. So that’s why I’m disappointed here. Because that’s the kind of storytelling I’d want from more Tennant, and it doesn’t feel like it’s coming. It feels like his Doctor is becoming just a vehicle for more the fanficy ideas and thrown from continuity-laden event story to continuity-laden event story. And that frustrates me. Anyway I’ve said my piece now.
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Post by mark687 on Dec 8, 2020 17:14:21 GMT
Apologies if this reads as a Rant But of course BF are going to use teams up with Tennant with other popular aspects of the show, They Sell and make BF Money The fact they're Written and Produced by people that are excellent at what they do is a Bonus And the usual caveat No ones forcing you the individual to buy it Regards mark687 I don't think it reads as a rant, and I mean no disrespect, but the reasons you've provided are the typical cop out answers when someone is pleased with the announcement and wants to reply to criticism... without actually offering an opinion. Big Finish are naturally going to use team ups, it's bread and butter to them. They're fans making stories for other fans. That's the top and bottom of it. I think you're kidding yourself if you think that Big Finish have to pair David Tennant with any other form of returning element. He sells regardless of what he's doing. The views of a writer or their script is obviously going to differ down to the individual consuming it, but just because they may enjoy the story doesn't affect their view that they'd have preferred something else. Ultimately, it doesn't matter who writes or produces if you're concern is that you'd prefer three other companions with Ten or a completely different product. Of course, nobody is forcing the individual to buy it, but that doesn't mean they can't voice their opinions. I don't believe anybody's outright stated they don't want to buy the set, some have merely voiced their concern over it involving the three most used companions in the whole of Big Finish. If you have fatigue, then you have fatigue. Ultimately, these are stories that are very much a product of the situation we're in. David Tennant has become available and an influx of material has been scripted and recorded with him. I tend to think the default to this quick turnarounds or these influx of releases is to attach a gimmick to them just because getting additional time with David is a luxury and Big Finish are looking out for the family they've amassed over 20+ years. Having said that, I don't think it's wrong to prefer something else or a different cast. You just have to look at the 19 Tenth Doctor titles we've had announced this year; not one of them is "just" him on his own or "just" a set of regular adventures. They've all got some extra bit of marketing attached to them. The closest to the aforementioned regular adventures is probably the River Song set. Personally, Ten is my Doctor so more David Tennant is always welcome, but if it wasn't for Dalek Universe explicitly doing a new series of Tenth Doctor Adventures, albeit one wrapped up in plenty of returning elements, I think I'd be a bit more critical. Again, no disrespect to you personally, Mark. I understand where you're coming from, but I think posts like that are flawed and a bit holier than thou, even if they're not intended to be. Fair enough my Post was a repose to the usual "oh no Not Such and Such again" response which, depending on your viewpoint could also be classed as with respect a bit holier than thou. I suppose the the ideal would be if Tennant recorded the chronicle style content then everyone would be happy. Regards mark687
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Post by Shiny on Dec 8, 2020 17:19:34 GMT
I think we all knew Big Finish couldn't resist doing a release with this concept sooner or later.
I'm looking forward to it and will definitely buy it when the time comes, but there's only so excited I can get for a release that's nearly two years away. Especially when there's other Tenth Doctor content coming out much sooner. I'm sure I'll be more excited closer to the time though.
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