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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Jul 14, 2021 10:02:04 GMT
Just finished the 1st story- Interesting how the recording equipment DT uses (assuming was recorded at home) sounds clearer then what PMcG used..
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Post by theillusiveman on Jul 14, 2021 11:15:52 GMT
Just Finished listening to Episode 2 The Trojan Dalek wow that was certainly a dark and brutal episode, Great performances and pacing however the only problem is
{Spoiler} The Episode feels like a Retread of Blood of The Daleks and Revelation of The Daleks with Humans being turned into Daleks.
its not groundbreaking but its a great darker 10th Doctor tale in comparison to all of his other Big Finish 10DAs
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Post by theillusiveman on Jul 14, 2021 12:51:52 GMT
Finished Episode 3 The Lost Pretty decent much more a breather episode and the cliffhanger was well constructed lots of good character development too
so far boxset 2 has been really good i think having an original big finish companion for David's doctor is a great move
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Post by mark687 on Jul 14, 2021 12:54:38 GMT
Dalek Universe definitively is shaping up to be "How you do a TV Drama Arc" Vol introduce your story premise and central characters, Vol 2 therefore expands your central charcters and then slightly alters the premis by the end.
Cycle of Destruction and The Trojan Dalek are an action epic with shades of "Absent Friends" and The Lost is the sets outlier EP, Its Midnight meets Hell Bent while dealing with the emotional fall out of the sets obvious Spoiler
Jane Salvin and Joe Simms share the Actor MVP [Brent Spinner eat your heart out in terms of believable Android learning Humanity]and Jane Salvin just carries on bringing to life one of the most well rounded Companions. Nice to hear Barnaby Edwards back behind the Mic
Tenant's good as usual, unfortunately for a couple of scenes in the first 2 Eps he's opposite of one of BFs most Over the Top performers and he responds in kind.
Another enjoyable set looking forward to Vol 3 with the caveat it may have too much to do.
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Post by shallacatop on Jul 14, 2021 15:48:17 GMT
Enjoyed this a lot. It's a refreshing palate cleanser to the first volume; it maintains that fast pace and sense of adventure, but has plenty of scope for reflection and quieter moments for our leads. Cycle of Destruction and The Trojan Dalek are both great platforms for Mark Seven. Joe Sims is on fine form and really sells Mark developing human elements as he spends more time with the Doctor, Anya and the other characters they meet along the way. Cycle of Destruction could have done without the animal storyline really; nothing is done with it and feels like it bloats the episode a touch. I also wish that the cliffhanger to the first volume was directly picked up on and the second set began with a short recap and launched into the theme, as it would do on screen. The Trojan Dalek itself is really grim and it's interesting that there aren't technically any Daleks in it! This ending really took me aback on two accounts; Mark Seven's extermination and "I love you". I was expecting Mark's demise, as he isn't credited in the third set, but to do it in the middle act was a surprise. The Lost dials the action back and focuses solely on our leads. There's some wonderful interaction between the Doctor and Anya, dwelling on the events of the preceding episode and also exposing the Doctor's history with Sara & Bret. I wasn't keen on the initial conversations that the Doctor and Anya shared with The Lost at first, I think that might be due to the hyperbole of the synopsis, stating "heart-breakingly familar faces await them". It really hits its stride, though, and gives us some great content. The highlights of the set are the same as the first volume; the portrayal of the Doctor and the TARDIS team. The former is written with the remorse and angst of post-Donna Ten and demonstrates that in a way that the Specials don't capitalise on. We continue to get glimpses in his arrogance and the extent of what he can do, foreshadowing The Waters of Mars and Time Lord Victorious. It's a new era for the Doctor, whilst being faithful to what happened on screen. Our TARDIS team is eclectic, they all share a great dynamic and it's fantastic to spend time with them. We're one member less heading into the third volume, and Anya now knows about Sara & Brett, so I'm curious to see the different dynamic. Very interested to see where volume three goes. I don't really get a greater sense of an overall arc / story, except the Doctor needs to escape and get back to the TARDIS. We also haven't had much in the way of Dalek involvement, letalone a Dalek story. Seems like a lot to deal with in three hours.
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Post by thelonecenturion on Jul 14, 2021 20:24:06 GMT
Just finished this set. Utterly brilliant from start to finish. I really, really hope that the final volume lives up to the first two. It's safe to say I'm excited. HOWEVER {Spoiler}Is anyone else gutted that Mark's dead? I really liked his character, and Joe Sims plays him so well that I'd hate if he never showed up again. Who else wants an SSS spin-off set between Protocol and DU1 featuring the adventures of Mark and Anya?
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Post by sherlock on Jul 14, 2021 21:04:36 GMT
Cycle of Destruction
A promising start. Well done story of androids and identity.
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Post by sherlock on Jul 14, 2021 22:26:47 GMT
The Trojan Dalek
Well the main plot of the episode isn’t much of a surprise (ahem, it’s in the title pretty much) but it delivers on the premise. This is far and away the most nasty of the Tenth Doctor Adventures, and Tennant more than rises to the occasion. Giving him these full-blooded saga is paying off dividends.
As for the ending, oof I did not see that one coming. And goddamn it I need to sleep for work tomorrow now so I can’t immediately hear what happens next.
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Post by shallacatop on Jul 15, 2021 7:16:53 GMT
love the day of the doctor style trailer The trailer is fantastic. I think the soundbites let it down a bit; they don’t quite match up to the visuals and its pace. I’d have just gone with the 2008 theme and an original voiceover by Tennant, a la the 50th it’s inspired by and also the first announcement for Dalek Universe.
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Post by shallacatop on Jul 15, 2021 7:32:17 GMT
I think it would’ve been a nice touch if: There was a temporary cover for Dalek Universe 3, which featured Mark Seven on the cover and Joe Sims credited. We could’ve then had an updated announcement in a couple of weeks, where that was replaced by River and Alex Kingston, respectively, capitalising on the cliffhanger. Forgot to mention the music and sound design in my initial post. Brilliant work by Howard Carter, as per.
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Post by sherlock on Jul 15, 2021 10:46:03 GMT
The LostYeah I couldn’t wait so stuck it on first thing this morning. An interesting one for the more out there collection of Who stories. {Spoiler} One thing I did feel was missing was the impetus for why the Doctor and Anya ultimately decided the Lost couldn’t be allowed to leave. Aside from emotional blackmail to get its release (which is kinda understandable given the whole “being stuck in a void for eternity” thing), it hadn’t really displayed any actual hostility.
The cliffhanger is bizarre, intentionally, so I’ll be back for Dalek Universe 3. My concern is the time jump to the Dalek/Movellan War (ie the timeline of Dalek stories of the late 70s/80s rather than the 60s/early 70s) will lose the nice “legacy of Master Plan” era that’s been building so far, but wait and see I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2021 11:12:20 GMT
Like the first volume, Dalek Universe 2 is an outstanding masterpiece. Full of action-packed and emotional moments, its arc-driven storytelling brilliantly expands upon the character developments. I call this the perfect birthday present by Big Finish! I was genuinely shocked and saddened when Mark Seven was killed off in The Trojan Dalek. And the mention of River Song's catchphrase "Hello Sweetie" in the cliffhanger for The Lost... did not see that coming either.
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Post by Who Review on Jul 15, 2021 13:09:00 GMT
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Post by IndieMacUser on Jul 16, 2021 13:38:26 GMT
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Post by constonks on Jul 16, 2021 23:27:31 GMT
A solid middle chapter that lives up to the strong beginning! A couple spoilers from eps 2 and 3 Does anyone else think the "leader" that the Major trusts is going to turn out to be Davros somehow? The Doctor even namechecks him in that episode.
Also, I can say I knew the last two words of this set just by looking at the cover of the next one... But I did not guess who'd be saying them!
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Jul 17, 2021 7:13:47 GMT
Just finished "The Lost".. after hearing the last line of dialogue..I paused and insisted my wife listen to the last 30 seconds.. She yelled out "WHAT!"
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Post by Chakoteya on Jul 17, 2021 15:22:50 GMT
Just done Cycle. I dunno. Apart from playing spot the cultural reference - (Bad Robot the production company, Little Lost Android - ought to be Robot - the Asimov novel etc.) I've got rather meh about artificial lifeforms who aren't content with their programmed lot. It's just such a frequently visited Sci-Fi subject.
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Post by theillusiveman on Jul 18, 2021 8:46:26 GMT
A couple of people ive talked to about Dalek Universe seem to be really angry about the title of the range being false advertising and honestly i can see why
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Post by shallacatop on Jul 18, 2021 11:07:04 GMT
A couple of people ive talked to about Dalek Universe seem to be really angry about the title of the range being false advertising and honestly i can see why There is a disconnect between what is marketed and what we actually get, definitely. It’s not an epic of the fan favourite Tenth Doctor battling Daleks and the various elements that come with that. It’s the Doctor stranded in a universe that’s been left damaged and scarred by the Daleks. That isn’t completely obvious in the first set; House of Kingdom suggests it, but it’s the second set that really solidifies it. We’ve been told the marketing emphasises the returning elements and lore to preserve secrets, but I don’t really get that impression. The secrets in the first set was another returning foe and a cliffhanger that had already been done for the Tenth Doctor. The latter contributed nothing to the story and holds up less on a relisten. The secrets in the second set was already revealed by the cover / cast credits of the third set. I think it’s a lack of confidence and faith from Big Finish. They tend to push for the hooks and what can be put on the covers, rather than promoting the concept and the actual stories. I get why, and I think there’s definitely scope for that, but equally you can also do a disservice to the actual end product. Personally, what we’re getting in Dalek Universe is much more appealing to me than what the marketing implies, but I could understand feeling disappointed.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2021 11:51:16 GMT
A couple of people ive talked to about Dalek Universe seem to be really angry about the title of the range being false advertising and honestly i can see why There is a disconnect between what is marketed and what we actually get, definitely. [...] Personally, what we’re getting in Dalek Universe is much more appealing to me than what the marketing implies, but I could understand feeling disappointed. I felt a bit disappointed after hearing the first set, based on how it was marketed ... 'Dalek Universe' to me implies Daleks! I haven't bothered buying the second set, assuming it would be similar. Once bitten, twice shy and all that ... I'm not sure I'd put myself in the "really angry" category though. It is what it is.
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