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Post by grinch on Jan 21, 2021 19:54:31 GMT
A really delightful piece and a standout entry for the Fifth Doctor. If you’re a Beatles fan or even just a fan of the British Invasion in general than I can’t recommend it enough.
Has a cracking original soundtrack to boot as well.
What did you all think?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2021 20:11:19 GMT
Top 10 material before. The music is great, an engaging storyline, the doctor is on top form and the titular Commin Men are fantastic. One of the best
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Post by Kestrel on Jan 22, 2021 1:32:08 GMT
Haven't had a chance to listen to it, but I've been curious for a while and it's on my wishlist. I've gotta ask, though, how much does it tie into the other 1963 stories? Are they all connected, somehow, or is it simply that they all take place in the same year?
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Post by grinch on Jan 22, 2021 9:07:30 GMT
Haven't had a chance to listen to it, but I've been curious for a while and it's on my wishlist. I've gotta ask, though, how much does it tie into the other 1963 stories? Are they all connected, somehow, or is it simply that they all take place in the same year? The only connecting thread is that they all take place in the same year. |
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Post by mark687 on Jan 22, 2021 15:42:13 GMT
Haven't had a chance to listen to it, but I've been curious for a while and it's on my wishlist. I've gotta ask, though, how much does it tie into the other 1963 stories? Are they all connected, somehow, or is it simply that they all take place in the same year? Only connection is all take place in 1963. Although The Assassination Games Provides background set up for Counter Measures Series 4 Regards mark687 |
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Post by constonks on Jan 22, 2021 16:35:38 GMT
Haven't had a chance to listen to it, but I've been curious for a while and it's on my wishlist. I've gotta ask, though, how much does it tie into the other 1963 stories? Are they all connected, somehow, or is it simply that they all take place in the same year? Only connection is all take place in 1963. Although The Assassination Games Provides background set up for Counter Measures Series 4 Regards mark687 But takes place between Remembrance & Counter-Measures 1, so it's still very standalone. No need to have heard that series first! |
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Post by Chakoteya on Jan 22, 2021 16:41:41 GMT
I loved this one. Always good for a relisten.
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Post by slithe on Jan 23, 2021 11:14:05 GMT
A good satire on a well known band, with links to An Unearthly Child. Soundtrack is good here and it is a good spin on 'What If X never existed?' Love the cover for this as well with Davison on the Zebra Crossing.
Still prefer The Assassination Games out of that trilogy, but this is a close second.
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Post by doctorkernow on Jan 24, 2021 11:12:51 GMT
Hello again.
In my top 10. A great story for Davison's Doctor and for Nyssa. The Common Men are brought to life with charm and humour. The mirroring of their story with events in the Beatles is well done.
Imagine fan reaction if they had turned on to the first story in Season 20 and watched this instead. They would have fallen off their sofas...
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Post by slithe on Jan 24, 2021 13:07:51 GMT
I am not sure if this would have worked on TV at the time of Season 20... With audio you hear the voices and imagine what you want to see - so people who sound like a famous band, but are actually quite different. You'd either have to go for the lookalike effect for TV or the soundalike effect. You'd end up compromising on one, which would lead to criticism. This would, sadly, have drowned out the story.
It wouldn't also fit with the approach that the production crew was taking. Humour wasn't top of the list of features for the show at that time, unfortunately.
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Post by Kestrel on Oct 7, 2021 23:24:39 GMT
You know, for a story focused on Beatlemania, predicated largely on the Beatles just being, like, really good, this story would have benefitted enormously if Big a finish had been able to license even just one song--even just a fragment of one song.
I've no idea how much the licensing for that might be, but I imagine it'd coast a good deal more than Murray Gold's music, which is already far out of reach, so I'm not inclined to say Big Finish is pinching pennies or anything here... but it needs to be said. Maybe next time let's see some stories with musicians whose work is solidly within the public domain?
...Anyway.
This was a really fun story, huh? I want to say that it had a very different, unique feel to it relative to typical Doctor Who, but push-to-shove I can't really articulate why. It had a certain... energy, I guess. Helped by pretty low stakes. I mean, sure, there was the usual grandiose rhetoric, but this adventure felt especially low-stress for all involved, hero and villain alike. Overall it made a nice change of pace from the much more serious and dramatic Klein Trilogy I listened to around the same time.
Quote of the episode: "You and I are going on a magical mystery tour."
The only thing that didn't really work for me were the voice actors (impressionists?) for the "Common Men." They felt like cartoon Beatles parodies. This is possibly because i grew up seeing cartoon Beatles parodies and was never actually exposed to the real thing until high school. So it goes.
Also a big fan of the anticlimactic resolution. A villain who's proud of what they've done? Yet easy-going enough to just erase it all from history with very little persuasion necessary? Very refreshing. Felt almost like a blue-collar con artist-type antagonist than the more malicious villain-type we usually find mucking about in time.
That the "Common Men" were one of Susan's favorite(?) bands was also a nice touch. It reminds me of just how good, even by modern standards, her introduction in An Unearthly Child was.
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Post by Tim Bradley on Jan 1, 2022 10:38:01 GMT
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Post by sidestep on Feb 5, 2023 14:34:57 GMT
Amazing timey whimey 5 & Nyssa story.
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