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Post by redsharkJason on Mar 5, 2021 3:42:37 GMT
It’s certainly an interesting idea at least. If only for the novelty of such treasures as you said. And c’mon number13, you just have to spill the beans when it comes to that M.R. James story idea. I presume it either focuses on his time as a medievalist scholar or him encountering something that could leapt from the pages of one of his stories? You are tempting me aren't you.
In very brief, the Brig. and UNIT are called in when something turns up to derail a vital defence project near the coast of East Anglia. And for reasons which become obvious, the Doctor decides the expert to consult is definitely - very definitely - M.R. James during his Cambridge years. Of course, being more than 60 years out of time is, for the Doctor, the merest detail...
(This story would take place during season 10 by which time the TARDIS is being fairly reliable - or so it seems - and they do make it to pre-WWI Cambridge and back again... that's the least of their worries...)
Okay, moving forward on what you have suggested isn’t a lost televised intended story of the past. Let’s focus on a smaller scope venue to start with...your number13 writings are often so upbeat and imaginative. Why haven’t you ‘at least’ won one of the Short Trip writing competitions yet? (Probably because you haven't tried.) You would think that you and The Brigadier type of members could easily clean house for that task, if you both so desired. And, I’m not discounting the greatness of the Paul Spragg memorial ones that have already won. I also from time to time greatly love revisiting my precious copy of How the Doctor Changed My Life BF Short Trips book that was entirely penned by ordinary DW fans. All hail the big talking bird...and number13 to deliver us some unconventional type of inspiration.
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Post by tuigirl on Mar 5, 2021 8:13:09 GMT
Awesome, I am in.
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Post by shallacatop on Mar 5, 2021 8:32:45 GMT
Looking forward to this. The Sixth Doctor & Mel is a TARDIS team not massively used by Big Finish - at least not recently - so I'd welcome another new story from them. I think RTD is great and I love the sheer luck and alignment that has brought this release to life; as others have mentioned, it isn't technically a lost story so if it wasn't for RTD's name, Big Finish wouldn't entertain its release.
Reading the news article, I was struck by how much this is a properly co-written story, rather than an adaption, which should be interesting. RTD's opening from 35 years ago and Scott Handcock's closing from the present day!
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Post by dorney on Mar 5, 2021 8:52:07 GMT
No release date or am i missing somthing? Some other interesting takeaways that can be noted is that it doesn’t have a BF Lost Story release number, its 100-minute duration is shorter than most of its recent 2-disc peers and this script probably wasn’t even officially submitted to be televised. I do hope that Hodiac does eventually get a LS release number. My indexing OCD isn’t a fan of Big Finish not numbering their products when warranted. For example - The Tenth Doctor and River Song box set and its 3 individual story releases do not have any numbering on their CD boxes, which I find aggravating! As for the possibility of this story being a shorter one in length...that's fine, quality over quantity and it gives the opportunity for the extra space to accommodate even more retrospective interviews (perhaps if we’re lucky with Russell T. Davies). Reading the BF news article Russell did imply that his found script had only 1 original copy, so it does seem likely that it wasn’t submitted to be produced. A story like Yellow Fever and How to cure It is more commonly known to fans that it was scheduled at one point to be recorded. On the bright side, Mind of the Hodiac wouldn’t have ever been rejected (?), so it could very well be a masterpiece! I wouldn’t worry about the length - if it’s not been recorded there’s no way of knowing what the length is. 100 minutes is likely just a placeholder as it’s the kind of BF standard default for a two disc story.
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Post by OneTen on Mar 5, 2021 9:25:56 GMT
Reading the BF news article Russell did imply that his found script had only 1 original copy, so it does seem likely that it wasn’t submitted to be produced. A story like Yellow Fever and How to cure It is more commonly known to fans that it was scheduled at one point to be recorded. On the bright side, Mind of the Hodiac wouldn’t have ever been rejected (?), so it could very well be a masterpiece!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2021 11:15:23 GMT
ALREADY PRE-ORDERED!! I was so hyped when my childhood hero posted the first few pages of his script, during The Runaway Bride watchalong, and I figured out that it would soon be adapted for audio. Turned out many of us were right all along. It's a Whovian's dream come true! As for that, I hope they'll also make the original script available in PDF.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2021 11:22:52 GMT
(Spare a thought today for of all those other 1980s 'Doctor Who' fan-fiction scripts sitting in attics around the world, weeping over their typos at this news and wailing ' why not me?' ) C'mon, Moffat, we know you've got at least one stashed away... From what I'm able to recall, Steven Moffat wrote a DW spec script during his childhood featuring some kind of "button". It was mentioned in an article on the official website a number of years ago, but somehow vanished.
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Post by sherlock on Mar 5, 2021 11:49:09 GMT
This sounds very promising.
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Post by antartiks on Mar 5, 2021 12:07:16 GMT
IMO, RTD is one of the best writers Doctor Who's ever had, and probably my favorite showrunner. Given Damaged Goods is one of my top 5 Seventh Doctor stories, I can't wait. It's been too long since we've had a Six and Mel story. The last time was in The Last Adventure back in 2015, I think ?
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Post by constonks on Mar 5, 2021 14:33:32 GMT
IMO, RTD is one of the best writers Doctor Who's ever had, and probably my favorite showrunner. Given Damaged Goods is one of my top 5 Seventh Doctor stories, I can't wait. It's been too long since we've had a Six and Mel story. The last time was in The Last Adventure back in 2015, I think? And before that, The Seeds of War in 2013. As Wolfie said above, this is only the tenth full-cast Six and Mel story that BF has done! This despite the fact that both actors were working with Big Finish right from the start. I'd like to see BF do a connected season of Mel stories one of these days (and hey, they've got a Brigadier again and Business Unusual is just sitting there...)
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Post by Chakoteya on Mar 5, 2021 15:41:00 GMT
But... are these stories really lost in that they failed to be produced and broadcast in the conventional way of the series for one valid reason or another? Yes, Shada and Nightmare Fair were lost in the full sense, but a story that wasn't even submitted for consideration? Are they not scraping the bottom of the barrel and doing stunt authorships just for publicity? This'd better turn out to be good once I've parted with my pension - which won't happen until the month before the definite release date.
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Post by cwm on Mar 5, 2021 15:50:30 GMT
RTD definitely submitted it to the production office, didn't he?
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Post by redsharkJason on Mar 5, 2021 19:53:27 GMT
RTD definitely submitted it to the production office, didn't he? According to the Twitter post within this thread, Russell questionably 'thinks' that he did. His 25-minute script would have been an easy reject during the 45-minute episode Season 22. I’m going to support buying it, and I can understand why Big Finish couldn't pass up on using unearthed material written by DW royalty, but I'm not nearly as chuffed about it as I am with the forthcoming (Gerry Davis and John Lloyd) real deal unmade serial ones.
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Post by elkawho on Mar 5, 2021 20:01:18 GMT
First Eccleston, then Dalek Universe and now this!!! What a year!! I'm so excited for this story. RTD writing for Sixie. I never thought I'd see it.
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Post by agentten on Mar 5, 2021 20:50:18 GMT
Whelp, that was an easy pre-order. I'll take every second of RTD's take on Doctor Who that I can get.
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Post by antartiks on Mar 5, 2021 21:49:32 GMT
IMO, RTD is one of the best writers Doctor Who's ever had, and probably my favorite showrunner. Given Damaged Goods is one of my top 5 Seventh Doctor stories, I can't wait. It's been too long since we've had a Six and Mel story. The last time was in The Last Adventure back in 2015, I think? And before that, The Seeds of War in 2013. As Wolfie said above, this is only the tenth full-cast Six and Mel story that BF has done! This despite the fact that both actors were working with Big Finish right from the start. I'd like to see BF do a connected season of Mel stories one of these days (and hey, they've got a Brigadier again and Business Unusual is just sitting there...) Really ? Is that it ? I was certain there were more. It could be because they've not had a lot of audios together, but some of them such as "The One Doctor" are classics.
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Post by constonks on Mar 5, 2021 21:55:30 GMT
And before that, The Seeds of War in 2013. As Wolfie said above, this is only the tenth full-cast Six and Mel story that BF has done! This despite the fact that both actors were working with Big Finish right from the start. I'd like to see BF do a connected season of Mel stories one of these days (and hey, they've got a Brigadier again and Business Unusual is just sitting there...) Really ? Is that it ? I was certain there were more. It could be because they've not had a lot of audios together, but some of them such as "The One Doctor" are classics. The One Doctor, The Juggernauts, Catch-1782, Thicker Than Water, The Wishing Beast/The Vanity Box, The Wrong Doctors, Spaceport Fear, The Seeds of War, The Brink of Death & Mind of the Hodiac! Of course, there was a huge gap from 2007 to 2013 between Wishing Beast and The Wrong Doctors where Bonnie Langford didn't show up once with either of her Doctors. Since then, she's mostly been with Sylvester.
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Post by number13 on Mar 6, 2021 1:17:44 GMT
You are tempting me aren't you.
In very brief, the Brig. and UNIT are called in when something turns up to derail a vital defence project near the coast of East Anglia. And for reasons which become obvious, the Doctor decides the expert to consult is definitely - very definitely - M.R. James during his Cambridge years. Of course, being more than 60 years out of time is, for the Doctor, the merest detail...
(This story would take place during season 10 by which time the TARDIS is being fairly reliable - or so it seems - and they do make it to pre-WWI Cambridge and back again... that's the least of their worries...)
Okay, moving forward on what you have suggested isn’t a lost televised intended story of the past. Let’s focus on a smaller scope venue to start with...your number13 writings are often so upbeat and imaginative. Why haven’t you ‘at least’ won one of the Short Trip writing competitions yet? You're too kind - really you are being much too kind. I guess we've all had story ideas and even quite detailed storylines float through our heads and some of them may even have made it onto paper. But to go from there to an actual written story - it's like going from a floor plan and a list of materials, to a finished house that people would actually want to live in!
I've huge admiration for all the writers of professional and fan-fiction and what they do. I think I've just about got a faint idea of how difficult it is - and that's my limit. (But I do like my 'James' storyline, so perhaps I'll write it up as a proper storyline and one day slip it into some writer's pile of papers with a brief 'May I give you this? I think it should be yours.' and see what happens...? )
(James fans will spot that's a quote from "Casting the Runes", but if I ever did cast a storyline, it would be with good wishes and the very best of intentions... )
(And apologies for taking up space and time on a thread where all I really wanted to say was something like - Blimey! RTD writes for Sixie and Mel, full cast from BF!! Yes please.)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2021 5:04:43 GMT
Really ? Is that it ? I was certain there were more. It could be because they've not had a lot of audios together, but some of them such as "The One Doctor" are classics. The One Doctor, The Juggernauts, Catch-1782, Thicker Than Water, The Wishing Beast/The Vanity Box, The Wrong Doctors, Spaceport Fear, The Seeds of War, The Brink of Death & Mind of the Hodiac! Of course, there was a huge gap from 2007 to 2013 between Wishing Beast and The Wrong Doctors where Bonnie Langford didn't show up once with either of her Doctors. Since then, she's mostly been with Sylvester. I didn't think of it until this thread, but if there were any pre-existing team that could benefit the most from the new "production block" style of the Sixth Doctor Adventures -- it'd be Six and Mel. Maybe exploring the road to the Vervoids or something else unique to that period in the Doctor's life? It could be a lot of fun.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Mar 6, 2021 13:30:00 GMT
Sixie and Mel! And written by RTD too! Ooh, this is too good to pass up! Definitely sounding like a must have for me! Ditto.
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